(08-16-2024, 04:04 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(08-15-2024, 10:06 AM)Vehe Wrote: Written definitions, affirmations, instructions, and so on, do work very well. I've used them for years to test scripts before committing to turn them into subliminals. First, the subconscious has to be programed to react to them, otherwise it's pointless. 
The subconscious, stupid as a rock, then proceeds to program into you everything you write. So the trick is to add triggers: 

for example:

*#Strt (this would mean start of definition)
*#ND (this would mean end of definition)

*#Strt Masculinity is also... *#ND

You would also need Undoing because most times, what you think you want or need comes with unwanted side effects, in this case:

*#UndoStrt Masculinity is also... *#UndoND


As for making effective programs, treating only one issue is basically pointless. Doesn't surprise me that you're not having success with healing.

I found that these are essential ingredients/foundations in every program:

* Self confidence/ Self esteem /Fearlessness /Rebirth /Healing (physical, mental, etc, because unbalanced hormones, neurotransmitters, toxins, inflammation, especially in your brain will cause havoc in subliminal results and in life.

* Success Mindset/ Victorious mindset/ Winner mindset : Self explanatory, tends to affect everything and it's the mindset that all successful people have..

* Positivity: Self explanatory, tends to improve everything.

* Readiness: Should have similar results to that new 'time management' subliminal. 

* Love life /Sexual life improvement: It's a biological instinct that must be fed. When we are assexual or not sexually active /dating, we are unknowingly sending the message to our whole biology that we are ready to die, because, with the exception of our neocortex, the whole purpose of our biology is to reproduce. Without passion for sex, dating, loving and desiring, everything starts to go worse until we feel like dying. The opposite is also true. The second most powerful force in the Universe is sexual. The first is 'Spiritual' but that is a theme for another time since 99% of people aren't ready for it or aren't ready for it until their biological instincts are met beforehand. Took me years of testing this on myself. If I can approach women successfully and if I'm always aroused by them I'm always in awe of life and being alive. If I can't approach women and if I'm not aroused by them, everything starts do go downhill fast until I don't even feel alive anymore. We are pure biological creatures unless we are in the 'spirit realms'. If we are in the 'spirit realms' we cannot function in this world, therefore, our biological instincts must be taken cared of before anything else. 

* Intelligence / Cognition/ Fast learning ability: This is the secret subliminal booster that subliminal producers can't seem to grasp. Each and everything that improves your intelligence, cognition, fast learning ability, memory has a brutal difference on subliminal results and in real life. Any type of performance, from sports to seduction immediately comes to mind. Having the perfect action or answer ready every time. Knowing what to say and do in every occasion. Computing millions of options in one second before committing to the best one. learning extremely fast from every mistake... This is the BOMB! In fact, I found out that my self confidence comes from this. Without a properly working brain I am never self confident.

* Anxiolytic Attributes aka stopping 'fight or flight' mode: Rather than explaining. Go read the effects of 'Propranolol' and the rating of 10/10 by most people. To be honest, there is no point in doing this one unless it can be done perfectly because one can buy 10g of Propranolol for $30 in the Asian markets.

* I'm sure I'm forgetting something, as usual. 

So you see, unless every program already combines all of these at the foundations you will rarely be satisfied. You might feel satisfied but feeling is not being. One can feel like a God on earth in it's own head yet never actually do more than any other random dude in the real world. For subliminals I always say: rate them as you would in a court of law or scientific blind placebo tests. 

Hey, I want a discount for this information.


One day I might tell you how to do mind control.  Learnt from the very best.

I find a number of serious errors in your post here that tell me that your understanding of the subconscious and how to make safe and effective subliminals is not what you seem to think it is.  I'll give you one example, because it is not possible for me to respond to everything given the restraints on my time. 

You state that the subconscious is "stupid as a rock".  That belief can only come from one of two things: Either you're still using research that was done between 1930's and 1980's, or you conclude that because you don't understand the subconscious well enough to know better.  On the contrary, your subconscious is vastly smarter and more capable than your conscious mind is, and my decades of research and experiments have borne that out more than a few dozen times now.

Given how fundamental the understanding of the falsity of that one thing is to making subliminals, I can only conclude that you have arrived at multiple other errors in logic and judgement as to how to make safe and useful subliminal scripts. 

You also state that you might one day tell me how to do mind control.  My customers come to me because they trust that I will never take away their free will.  Mind control is not my goal.  However, I have known how to do two different forms of mind control for more than 12 years now.  I have no use for mind control.

Your apparent willingness to use mind control tells me that you are not aware of the costs and consequences of using such a thing, or you don't care.  Neither is a good thing.

I suggest that before you would purport to teach someone how to make subliminals, you make sure you know how to do what you are claiming to know how to do.  So I have serious doubts about you really having sufficient understanding of the subconscious to make safe and useful subliminal scripts, and I have questions about your morals.  This post also smacks of ego and attention seeking.  I am not impressed so far.

(08-16-2024, 05:59 PM)thectexperience1 Wrote:

(08-16-2024, 04:04 PM)Shannon Wrote: I find a number of serious errors in your post here that tell me that your understanding of the subconscious and how to make safe and effective subliminals is not what you seem to think it is.  I'll give you one example, because it is not possible for me to respond to everything given the restraints on my time. 

You state that the subconscious is "stupid as a rock".  That belief can only come from one of two things: Either you're still using research that was done between 1930's and 1980's, or you conclude that because you don't understand the subconscious well enough to know better.  On the contrary, your subconscious is vastly smarter and more capable than your conscious mind is, and my decades of research and experiments have borne that out more than a few dozen times now.

Given how fundamental the understanding of the falsity of that one thing is to making subliminals, I can only conclude that you have arrived at multiple other errors in logic and judgement as to how to make safe and useful subliminal scripts. 

You also state that you might one day tell me how to do mind control.  My customers come to me because they trust that I will never take away their free will.  Mind control is not my goal.  However, I have known how to do two different forms of mind control for more than 12 years now.  I have no use for mind control.

Your apparent willingness to use mind control tells me that you are not aware of the costs and consequences of using such a thing, or you don't care.  Neither is a good thing.

I suggest that before you would purport to teach someone how to make subliminals, you make sure you know how to do what you are claiming to know how to do.  So I have serious doubts about you really having sufficient understanding of the subconscious to make safe and useful subliminal scripts, and I have questions about your morals.  This post also smacks of ego and attention seeking.  I am not impressed so far.

Shannon, in an industry of big talkers, cowboy operators and magical thinking, I appreciate how methodically you communicate your ideas. This is cutting-edge tech that most of us have next to no grasp of, so having that trust in your approach and your thought process is key for me as a client.

(08-15-2024, 08:03 AM)AbundanceCH Wrote:

(08-14-2024, 05:32 PM)Benjamin Wrote: I could make more comparisions, and i'm exaggerating some of it to make a point, but I think you guys know what i'm getting at.

I totally get your point and now that Shannon responded to your post and my post I have a lot of doubts about this program and how it would help most guys.

Shannon said we get to define what primal masculinity is...well most guys have grown up with woke BS rammed down their throats all their lives.  They don't know what true masculinity is.  So how is this program going to help them when most guys are too weak and have no idea what masculinity is?

Shannon said this program doesn't install beliefs...but when it comes to masculinity this is the opposite of what guys need.  They need new beliefs to cleanse themselves from the woke bs as Benjamin put it..

I think when it comes to an issue such as masculinity we need training wheels.  We need a program to help us become more confident, assertive, decisive, determined, competent, stronger, dominant, courageous, self reliant and countless other traits that a masculine man has.  I don't know how having us define what primal masculinity is will help most guys who don't even know the traits of a strong, masculine man.

I hope Shannon replies to this and clarifies once he has a better idea of what the program will do.  I'll give Shannon the benefit of the doubt and hopefully he can clarify.  I was excited about this but not so much now.

I don't think the "one size fits all" approach that he is taking is right for this program.  This is an issue where men need a training wheels approach unfortunately.  This program sounds like the opposite of what Benjamin and I have been advocating it seems.

(08-16-2024, 05:42 PM)Topaz Wrote: Thank you for the lengthy answer I'm sure it's not easy to explain everything.

The free V of EHPRA is currently 5G as I understand...
And as I understand SM3 has it in every stage...
So I'm not sure how is that any different

As I understand from you even though I don't see any benefits to SM3 I should still complete it anyway before doing something else?

I think that's the main frustration of mine doing something that I don't get the benefits of....

Maybe somehow I will see benefits with continued repeation? ( Stage 5 6 7)

(08-16-2024, 07:11 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(08-16-2024, 05:42 PM)Topaz Wrote: Thank you for the lengthy answer I'm sure it's not easy to explain everything.

The free V of EHPRA is currently 5G as I understand...
And as I understand SM3 has it in every stage...
So I'm not sure how is that any different

As I understand from you even though I don't see any benefits to SM3 I should still complete it anyway before doing something else?

I think that's the main frustration of mine doing something that I don't get the benefits of....

Maybe somehow I will see benefits with continued repeation? ( Stage 5 6 7)

https://subliminal-shop.com/products/emotional-healing-pain-relief-aid-v5-5-75-7g-type-a-b-c-d

Enjoy.

(08-16-2024, 09:04 PM)Frosted Wrote: @Topaz EPHRA isn’t in SM3, only OGSF is. EPHRA is in AM6.

(08-16-2024, 09:46 PM)Topaz Wrote:

(08-16-2024, 07:11 PM)Shannon Wrote: https://subliminal-shop.com/products/emotional-healing-pain-relief-aid-v5-5-75-7g-type-a-b-c-d

Enjoy.

Oh wow, I hadn't seen that before!

I understand you might be busy with other tasks and questions, but I still haven't received clear guidance on how to proceed in the upcoming months.

I appreciate your time and attention, as it's important for me to determine the best course of action moving forward.

Could you please advise on the following options:
1. Using it with SM3.
2. Stop SM3 and switch to any emotional healing subliminal.
3. Even though I’m not seeing results yet, to finish SM3 first.

Thank you in advance for your guidance.

(08-16-2024, 09:53 PM)Have at ye Wrote:

(08-16-2024, 09:46 PM)Topaz Wrote: Oh wow, I hadn't seen that before!

I understand you might be busy with other tasks and questions, but I still haven't received clear guidance on how to proceed in the upcoming months.

I appreciate your time and attention, as it's important for me to determine the best course of action moving forward.

Could you please advise on the following options:
1. Using it with SM3.
2. Stop SM3 and switch to any emotional healing subliminal.
3. Even though I’m not seeing results yet, to finish SM3 first.

Thank you in advance for your guidance.

You're not going to get much in the way of results if you run two 5g programs simultaneously, especially ones as far apart in their goals as EHPRA and SM.

My take: if you don't have all that much to go, finish your run of SM3 then go for EHPRA and just EHPRA (I'd recommend v6 if you can afford it).

(08-17-2024, 01:58 AM)Topaz Wrote: The question is what would be the ideal route
Maybe if I finish SM3 it will benefit me later on when running some else later on

Or maybe it will just be a waste of time

I don't want to waste time here

I have 3 more months to go

(08-17-2024, 01:58 AM)Topaz Wrote: The question is what would be the ideal route
Maybe if I finish SM3 it will benefit me later on when running some else later on

Or maybe it will just be a waste of time

I don't want to waste time here

I have 3 more months to go

(08-17-2024, 06:34 AM)thectexperience1 Wrote:

(08-17-2024, 01:58 AM)Topaz Wrote: The question is what would be the ideal route
Maybe if I finish SM3 it will benefit me later on when running some else later on

Or maybe it will just be a waste of time

I don't want to waste time here

I have 3 more months to go

The subs don't waste time. You waste your own time by chopping and changing and by not following instructions.

(08-17-2024, 06:47 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote:

(08-17-2024, 06:34 AM)thectexperience1 Wrote: The subs don't waste time. You waste your own time by chopping and changing and by not following instructions.

@Topaz
Do you want to finish SM3 in 3 months?

or take a break, and do a different subliminal title?

If you take the break, when you listen to SM3 again...
you will have to start over and still do 6 months to get results from SM3.