(12-01-2016, 05:34 AM)Shannon Wrote: Oh, I will reiterate one more time... I strongly recommend that everybody do a MINIMUM of 1 week of A (and preferably 4) before using B. Do NOT recommend trying to use them both in a single day. Use each for a week at a time, minimum.

(12-01-2016, 05:50 AM)Aventus45 Wrote: So the B version is going to be the unicorn of the two?

Shannon I can alternate between A and B?

(12-01-2016, 05:53 AM)RTBoss Wrote: Regarding alcohol not being physically addictive, I must heartily disagree. I used to work in a hospital during college. My job was to sit with patients who were a danger to themselves. Many were alcoholics going through detox. The physical symptoms of withdrawal can be so nasty it can literally kill you. I've been with people who have had no idea who they are, where they were, or unable to construct a coherent sentence because their brains were no longer getting the fuel (poison) it had adapted to. DTS, delirium tremens, is nooooo joke.

(12-01-2016, 06:27 AM)Jackson Chandra Wrote: Shannon,

Pardon me if I rewiring this problem again, Curious...

AP code...
I have been seen this statement:

"I would strongly suggest not pirating my stuff. Those who want to believe they can circumvent or ignore my anti-piracy code don't get a free pass just for being ignorant fools. They just deal with the consequences of their actions in different ways, which they may not be intelligent or aware enough to notice or understand. But rest assured, had they intelligence and wisdom, they would rather pay for it than steal it from me. There is no way around it."

Can you explain more that italic bold statement? Does it mean that people are triggered with code will be destructive in behavior (besides attain the program goal?)?

Thanks.
Sorry to be Thread Starter again about this debateful argument.

(12-01-2016, 06:27 AM)dweller94 Wrote: 3 loops of 3.0.1A will work out to 69x3 = 207mins which is 3 hours 45 mins, don't think I can keep earphones in for that long, it can get annoying even for a trickle stream lover, but hybrid is more power!!!

(12-01-2016, 06:43 AM)Alpha360 Wrote:

(12-01-2016, 06:27 AM)dweller94 Wrote: 3 loops of 3.0.1A will work out to 69x3 = 207mins which is 3 hours 45 mins, don't think I can keep earphones in for that long, it can get annoying even for a trickle stream lover, but hybrid is more power!!!

To me it's more the earphone annoyance than the sound itself. When I hear the same sound for a long time period my brain no longer acknowledge that sound as relevant so I no longer notice it.
3 hours 45m is a new record though. Now I'm hesitating for the non healing version as there is not a much loop to do.

(12-01-2016, 06:27 AM)dweller94 Wrote: 3 loops of 3.0.1A will work out to 69x3 = 207mins which is 3 hours 45 mins, don't think I can keep earphones in for that long, it can get annoying even for a trickle stream lover, but hybrid is more power!!!

(11-30-2016, 09:35 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(11-30-2016, 09:31 PM)robstar Wrote:

(11-30-2016, 08:28 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(11-30-2016, 08:11 PM)Dutchman610 Wrote:

(11-30-2016, 06:16 PM)Shannon Wrote: Stop Smoking is currently in a single stage format. Originally it was a six stage format.

Six stage format worked because it stepped you up gradually. But nobody wanted to buy it because it was $500 a copy.

When I rebuilt it, it was a single stage, for $89.95, but trying to do all that at once isn't working anywhere near as well as before.

Anything is better than nothing, especially if they use it 6 months straight. It still works for some. But it's better in 6 stage format. That's what I have to re-build. That and the latest technological wizardry.

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I'm wondering why quit smoking, takes a six stage approach to be effective. But, quit alcohol is a single stage? Is one a deep addiction than the other, or is quit alcohol meant to be a six stage also.

First of all, despite popular mythology, alcoholism isn't an addiction and it sure as hell isn't any type of "disease". They'd love to make you think it is, because then you don't have to take responsibility for not buying, opening and drinking it... so someone can make money or have control of you on some sort of "recovery" regimen.

The truth is, alcoholism is self medication, just like smoking, and marijuana and most other drugs, but alcohol isn't physically addictive. It's psychologically very addictive to certain personality and physiology types, though, because they find an easy escape in it.

Stop smoking works best as a six stage approach because there's a lot of different variables to dealing with it than alcoholism. And at some point, "science" will figure that out.

Until then... alcoholism is a choice, but the physical addiction does not exist. The root cause of alcoholism is the seeking to escape guilt, shame, fear and/or self loathing through the effects of alcohol on the brain. The "addiction" is really just a heightened psychological tendency to escapism, and it is enabled and empowered by the "addiction" and "disease" labels. Give that same person a way to deal with whatever they're dealing with through alcohol in another way, deny them their drug of choice, and they'll go straight to that new option because they're still trying to escape, rather than deal with it.

A lot of it has to do with the person's level of emotional maturity. More maturity leads to more likely "recovery" (which is itself a ***** term used to retroactively imply "disease and addiction"). I have witnessed "alcoholics" at all stages of "alcoholism" for decades now, and the ones who keep doing it are the ones who believe they can get away with it, or believe they have no other choice. The rest sober up and move on with life.

In this regard, just as with smoking, it is the beliefs that bind you. Beliefs that you have no other choice, beliefs that you have no need to grow up and take responsibility for your choices and actions because someone else will do it for you, or forgive you, or pat you on the head.

Smoking has a lot of the same thing, and is vastly more socially acceptable. It actually is a legitimate addiction, albeit a much more minor one than people think.

But the real difference between why those two programs are different sizes boils down to two things.

1. Stop Drinking got very good feedback in one stage, and Stop Smoking did not;
2. The people prone to alcoholism have a different physiology and psychology than those who are prone to smoking, but not alcoholism. Different approaches are required for each.

It is going to be that both programs will be rebuilt in 6G. They may be 1, 3 or 6 stages each, it will depend on whatever works best.

Do you not think a "Be addiction free" sub would be possible in 6G rather than multiple different subs?

It's possible. We shall see. But since alcoholism isn't an addiction...

(12-01-2016, 07:20 AM)robstar Wrote:

(12-01-2016, 06:27 AM)dweller94 Wrote: 3 loops of 3.0.1A will work out to 69x3 = 207mins which is 3 hours 45 mins, don't think I can keep earphones in for that long, it can get annoying even for a trickle stream lover, but hybrid is more power!!!

Did I miss something? Are earphones necessary for the hybrid?
PS 207 = 3 hours and 27 minutes.

(12-01-2016, 07:31 AM)dweller94 Wrote: ..snip
My bad 3 hours 27mins, where did I get the 45 from..

207/60 = 3.45 hrs = 3 hrs 27 mins

(12-01-2016, 07:43 AM)freerad98 Wrote:

(12-01-2016, 07:31 AM)dweller94 Wrote: ..snip
My bad 3 hours 27mins, where did I get the 45 from..

207/60 = 3.45 hrs = 3 hrs 27 mins