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RE: The Astrology Thread - JackOfHearts - 01-11-2015
I'm still into it but currently it's impossible for me. My software is messing with me. I dont know how its even possible that my virtual machine is bugging too which is suposed to be impossible
. There is still someone in the queue : "I am a self helper".
For now I can do a quick report with some online software but it won't be as deep as the one I have done until now. It would be more like the one I have done at the beginning.
RE: The Astrology Thread - JackOfHearts - 01-12-2015
I just found a solution for my software
I am a self helper
Asc Aries 27:35
Sun Capricorn 20:39
Moon Gemini 6:17
Mars Pisces 1:52
Mercury Capricorn 29:10
Jupiter Virgo 5:10
Venus Sagittarius 11:52
Saturn Aries
Ascendant Aries:
Aries people are Bold, aggressive, direct, fearless, cocky, selfish, thoughtless, protective, explosive, first, passionate, arrogant, egotistical, self aware. Because you also have Rahu conjunct your ascendant rising (very close 4°) you must be someone really focus on himself. Someone who need to find his true self. Someone who in past life has relied heavily on other people. Your goal is to be self aware, to know who you are as an individual which must be an unknown territory for you. Rahu in 1st house shows a very ambitious person for worldly image. There is much self obsession there
http://www.astrolada.com/aries
LAGNA IS ARIES (asc = lagna)
The native with Aries lagna is beginning a new cycle of self-actualization. This causes them to be possessed of great impulse, strength and will of an initiatory type. The Aries native is harnessing energy for some personal, yet urposeful activity. There is great energy directed towards finding ones niche in life, but this may put them into unstable or unmanageable situations, as the consequences of their actions are rarely considered in advance. The nature is courageous and passionate. Great emphasis is placed on the use of the will and directness is a noticeable quality. They consider things very much from a personal point of view.
The evolutionary goal is to develop the opposing quality of Libra. Balance must be developed in their activities. They must learn to consider the price they must pay for their actions and endeavors and become more pragmatic. This is likely to give partners that are more pragmatic in their actions, or partners that force a need upon the native to be more pragmatic.
First house is your physical body and the person himself. When Rahu is with the 1st house cusp, then you can be very susceptible to any poisons from your environment and even attracted to such things like smoking, drinking, drugs or medicines. You will feel their effect more powerful than others and that is the reason you should watch out for addictions because these substances give you more of a kick than they do to other people(Charlie Sheen has Rahu in 1st house). Also you can be more self obsessive person-focusing a lot on self to the extend of switching off when something or someone does not concern you personally.
Most importantly you need to learn how to live a healthy balanced life(which can be quite hard for Rahu 1st house people), or else your body will become toxic faster and attract decay. You might have pretty powerful inner demons and obsessive nature that you have to learn to control. You can be ruthless ambitious and desirious of wordly privilleges and success, which feel never enough. Your image can be highly sexualized too, as Rahu gives off powerful lustful impulses, he is the Devil after all and is in your house of the Body and Image!
http://www.astrolada.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=216:poisonous-and-obsessive-influence-in-your-horoscope&Itemid=80&tmpl=component&print=1
Saturn in the 1st house:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScNS3wMYv0k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJfZDweuOQ4&index=98&list=PLF8DBD42C931848BF
Saturn rahu conjunction create fear and anxiety, the conjunction is far so it won’t be overwhelming.
Moon gemini: Gemini are very skilfull people and this is particularly true for you because your Moon, jupiter and mars own the 3 different house that relate to skill. So I guess you are a very talented individual, who created a lot of different product through your imagination.
Gemini are Active, dualistic, easily bored, changeable, curious, hedonistic, thoughtless, playful,intelligent, multitasking, friendly, communicative, social.
http://www.astrolada.com/gemini
Sun capricorn: Capricorn are business focus people, they are leader, active people who work hard to get what they want. They are emotionally detach, aloof. You also have your mercury here and mercury is your atmakaraka. So I guess being a leader is even more important to you and it is what you strive for. I was about to guess your work but your pseudo is too precise but based on what I see on your birth chart you were born to be a leader. People notice you from far away, you are not the kind of person who hide in a corner waiting people to initiate a life for you, a non feminine behavior in this regard.
Capricorn are Businesslike, practical, pragmatic, emotionally cool, selfish, using, planning, efficient, sensual, prepared, effective, materialistic.
http://www.astrolada.com/capricorn
You recently start you Saturn period which has certainly bring a lot of changement in your life and will bring a lot more. The period started the 20/10/2014 which might be the time when you found subliminal on this website. Saturn being on the first house they can be some health problem that can appear, be careful about this. This period should be focus on yourself obsessively and on the material world, business, money, being a leader, Capricorn related focus. This should remind you of the period from 13 to 31 years old because it was your rahu period which was also focus on yourself as well.
Mars in pisces:
http://www.astrolada.com/mars-in-pisces
Mercury in capricorn:
http://www.astrolada.com/mercury-in-capricorn-thinking-and-skills
Venus in Sagittarius:
http://www.astrolada.com/venus-in-sagittarius-love-style
Computer generated:
RAHU AND KETU
KETU IN THE 7TH HOUSE, RAHU IN THE 1ST HOUSE: Ketu in the 7th house indicates a native who in recent past lives has gained security through relationships or public relations of some sort. There is generally a tendency to feel dependent upon others and a tendency to wrap their identity up with their spouse. Rahu in the 1st house indicates in this life the need to grow as an individual without the influence of their spouse or the public. There are generally feelings of loneliness and isolation and as long as the native is not secure in himself or herself they generally feel some insecurities around others. This will be the case until they develop a stronger sense of self.
Rahu in the 1st indicates a great need to find one's true individuality. This generally occurs through unexpected or unusual occurrences; the native rarely lives what would be termed a normal life, the influence of Rahu as an outcaste. The native's actions are generally compulsive and may not necessarily appear balanced, but these actions are necessary for them to eventually find themselves. They are strongly attracted to those people and things that they identify with as they search for the missing parts of themselves. They attempt to absorb whatever it is they are attracted to completely and fully, but then a time comes when they realize that this does not fulfill them and then they generally suffer some identity crisis. The result of this crisis is either to find something else which they can compulsively pursue, or if they are of the wiser sort, to realize that they themselves must fulfill themselves.
In relationships natives with Rahu in the 1st house generally find themselves feeling lonelier than they expected or desire, but this just another factor that forces them to attempt to realize themselves. Ultimately these natives must understand that everything they are chasing or longing after is just a part of themselves they see reflected in the other.
Ketu in the 7th house indicates that the native must also complete significant activities with partners and relationships. These partnerships and relationships will not be capable of providing the security and happiness the native seeks beyond a certain point. At which point, if they have not developed a balanced sense of self, the relationship will come to a close. In any case there is a theme of completion in relationships when Ketu is in the 7th house, whether the completion will be beautiful or horrible, or after a long time or a short time, depends on influencing factors.
KETU IN LIBRA, RAHU IN ARIES: Ketu in Libra indicates a native who in recent past lives has very carefully considered the results of their actions and desires. The native has been very conscious of the fact that his actions and desires have consequences, and to not get involved in more than they can handle. They have generally managed to live a very pragmatic life. Rahu in Aries stirs up great passion and brings situations in life that force the native to take on more than they can practically handle and to rely on their will and initiative. Doing so allows the native to create the karmic balance that frees them from the results of their previous actions.
RAHU/SATURN: The influence of Rahu on Saturn indicates a native that has difficulty in developing and maintaining security and stability. Those things the native feels attached to, or hopes to acquire security through are often taken away. Outer instability generally results in nerve-wracking conditions, and there is generally some inner instability and tension that makes the experiences of life less enjoyable. The only thing the native can really do to combat this is develop a dispassionate and detached mentality, which is particularly hard for them.
Rahu influencing Saturn also generally indicates a lack of consistent, long-term focus in life. The native will usually have a happier life once they are focused and secure in their path.
Rahu and Saturn are both separating influences, the house that they are both influencing will usually be an area where the native experiences complete or lengthy separations.
EXALTED, DEBILITATED, AND COMBUST PLANETS
DEBILITATED SATURN: If Saturn is debilitated, the native's focus and determination is weak, they are not secure in their activities. There is rarely the perseverance necessary to achieve the desired end; small mistakes and obstacles loom large. Debilitated Saturn may appear humble, but it is not truly humble, but rather an inability to manifest determination. That which debilitated Saturn affects in the horoscope suffers due to negligence, and indifference.
Saturn has its debilitation cancelled so the native develops focus and determination as well as detachment and sincere humility.
chart:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2Cla4OJWz6neDFQN2FMbXVXcFE/view?usp=sharing
The birth date is inverted like in french (dd/mm/yy)
RE: The Astrology Thread - JackOfHearts - 01-14-2015
Shub
Asc 2:55 Sagittarius
Sun 9:56 Virgo
Moon 16:40 Gemini
Mars 2:38 Scorpio
Mercury 16:17 Virgo
Venus 24:21 Cancer
Jupiter 18:21 Virgo
Saturn 27:38 Virgo
Asc Sagittarius:
They are Social, freedom loving, curious, broadminded, blunt, tactless, playful, adventurous,traveling, philosophical, arrogant, thoughtless, selfish.
The lord Jupiter is combust with the sun so your health is weaken and it cause the mother to suffer.
http://www.astrolada.com/sagittarius
What’s more obvious in your life would be the fact that you have 4 planet in one sign Virgo in the 10th house. So this virgo personality should be very apparent in your daily life and the 10th house too. Virgo is Emotionally awkward, specific, precise, caring, service oriented, attentive, critical, thoughtful of others, logical, distant, perfectionist, sensual. There are very intelligent people focus on material thing, they are very good at communication in general. They can be good doctor, healer, physicist, etc, they like detail, perfection (their own way of perfection).
http://www.astrolada.com/virgo
In this 4 planets, there is something that attract attention, that is the very strong conjunction between Mercury and Jupiter (2°). This kind of conjunction create people like Richard bandler or Jim carrey. When they use communication the sky's the limit for them. One other things to mention is the 10th house. I saw another chart where there were 4 or more planet in the 10th house and the person was almost “born” behind camera, she was acting at a very young age behind million of people. It doesn’t mean you will also but this kind of people are born to be leader or put in a place above people. One thing to mention though is that both your Jupiter and mercury is combust with the Sun which should weaken their power very much. So don’t expect things to be perfect.
http://www.astrolada.com/stellium-of-4-or-more-planets-the-pioneers
Since 2003 you are in your Jupiter period so from there you life has been strongly related to what I just said about this 4 planet. Feedback are welcome It’s hard to predict stuff with 4 planet conjunct. Since 17 september 2014 you have reach your sub period Jupiter/Moon.
Your moon is in gemini in the 7th house. Gemini is another communication sign, he loves information. He is Active, dualistic, easily bored, changeable, curious, hedonistic, thoughtless, playful,intelligent, multitasking, friendly, communicative, social. The 7 house is also a communication thing. It relates to other people, business deal with people, relationship, love which is similar to Libra. If you haven't noticed yet each house from 1 to 12 has the same kind of meaning with the 12 houses in the same order. Aries being the first and Pisces the 12th.
http://www.astrolada.com/gemini
http://www.astrolada.com/libra
So I expect than from september 2014 this aspect from libra (7th house) should have appear in your life, maybe you are looking for love or you some new kind of transaction with a business partner.
Then with have rahu in the 9th house (sagittarius house). Rahu should behave like your Sun which is in Virgo in the 10th (because rahu is in Leo). Being in the 9th from 1985 to 2003 (rahu period) you must have been obsess with spiritual matter but with your personality I think you have strive to help people through your work or you have tried to find a job where you can genuinely help people. Being fair is something important for you, to have a meaning to your life.
Then you have your mars in the 12th house in scorpio his own sign.
http://www.astrolada.com/mars-in-scorpio
Mercury virgo in the 10th:
http://www.astrolada.com/mercury-in-virgo-your-thinking-and-skills
Venus in cancer in the 8th :
http://www.astrolada.com/venus-in-cancer-love-style
Computer generated:
LAGNA IS SAGITTARIUS
The native with Sagittarius lagna guides their life through some belief, philosophy, religion or law. They are very apt to do what they believe and their entire identities are wrapped around their ideals. They aspire to have purpose and meaning in life.
The evolutionary goal is to develop the opposing sign of Gemini. The Sagittarius native must learn to test their ideals, beliefs, etc, and be flexible where necessary. In other words they need to investigate what they believe in to test and see if it really measures up and works. The native also needs to learn to have fun and play; that not everything has to have some grand purpose. Partnerships tend to be with more curious, experimental, and playful types, or with those who bring out these qualities in the native.
RAHU AND KETU
KETU IN THE 3RD HOUSE, RAHU IN THE 9TH HOUSE: Ketu in the 3rd indicates that the native in recent past lives has created security through the use of their rational mind. Through experimentation, study and thought the native has managed to create a paradigm that allows for life to take place in a safe and secure manner. In this lifetime, Ketu causes one to experience doubts about what exactly they know. When confronted by information that is contrary to what they believe they know there is initial resistance, as new information is threatening to the paradigm that is responsible for their security. After some time to think, however, they experience doubts about their knowledge and understanding. These doubts create an identity crisis over what they know. The eventual result of this is a deepening of their knowledge, but also the understanding that they have learned so much that all they know for sure is that they do not know anything.
Rahu in the 9th indicates that the native must define a belief system or philosophy that takes care of those areas they are unable to understand or create rationality for. The doubting of their information, through Ketu, forces them to develop faith and intuition through Rahu. The doubting of information indicated by Ketu in the 3rd also gives way for them to accept the information given by others, or teachers, indicated by Rahu in the 9th. However, as long as the native doubts their own information there will be a corresponding doubt of others' information as well. The key is do develop the faith and belief that at any given moment, though they will never know everything, that they will know what they need to fulfill their role at that time. Essentially, Rahu in the 9th indicates a need to broaden one's understanding beyond the mere intellect.
Ketu in the 3rd also suffers from indecisiveness. This is a result of Ketu waiting for that last bit of information to close the case, but the last bit never comes, there is always room for doubt, in fact it is the nature of the intellectual mind to doubt. In the end the native must learn to act on faith, the need for which is indicated by Rahu in the 9th.
Ketu in the 3rd also indicates that through the native exercising will and strength they have made things happen. Ketu now gives some doubts about how to focus their will, or what to focus it on, though there is a sense of adventure and impulse. Rahu in the 9th indicates the need for the native to focus their energy towards something of purpose; without some sense of purpose they will not make the most of their energies and skills.
KETU IN AQUARIUS, RAHU IN LEO: Ketu in Aquarius indicates a native who in recent past lives has attempted to create security by identifying with groups and peers of like-minded individuals. This has created security in the world, but now leaves the native feeling less secure with themselves as an individual. The native's security and self-esteem is conditioned by what their peers think, do, or say about the them. This results in a lack of satisfaction with oneself and the need to develop one's individual inspirations.
The opposing placement of Rahu in Leo urges the native towards self-inspiration and a self-esteem that is based upon their own nature, and not on the views of others. This self-inspiration may be so powerful that the native is unable to see any other goal but their own, or may even think that others should do the same as they. This is the height of insecurity.
Eventually, Rahu brings to attention the native's personal insecurities, which reveal that they are not entirely secure amongst the group. If they were so, they would have no personal insecurities. Ultimately, they need to feel secure when they can be themselves, with their differences and similarities, amidst the group, pursuing their own inspirations, while allowing others to do so as well.
KETU/VENUS: The influence of Ketu on Venus (with rasi aspect) indicates a nativity that has developed great tact and diplomacy when dealing with all mundane affairs of life as well as having enjoyed much of the pleasures the world can afford. In this life the native experiences a general discontent with worldly delights, even though there is an initial expectation of fulfillment from these things. In a spiritual nativity this influence may be conducive to developing spiritual devotion.
Venus is a planet of pride, under the influence of Ketu, humility is being developed and pride is never excessive.
COMBUST MERCURY: When Mercury is combust the individual experiences feelings of vulnerability when making requests. The self is identified with the function of speech and feels hurt and rejected when his requests are slighted or denied. The ego is fearful of having its request denied and therefore feeling rejected on a personal level. Even legitimate requests such as asking for a well-deserved raise, requesting from loved ones and returning an item to a store become difficult. After some time the individual feels taken advantage of and unfulfilled at which time anger and resentment set in. The individual must recognize that they must take direct responsibility for getting their needs and desires met by communicating them clearly and strongly. They are generally only able to communicate their desires and needs more overtly through hints, or in a joking manner. Combust Mercury presents the most trouble in personal relationships where a clear communication of needs and desires is important for maintaining harmony and in business affairs where money must be asked for. In essence, when Mercury is combust the native is angry because they are unable to maintain a fair exchange with others.
Generally the issues revolving around a combust Mercury develop in this lifetime when the native, as a child, felt rejected when making requests for things from the father, and the father answering something like this, "What do you want that for, its stupid, a waste of money, etc."
COMBUST JUPITER: When Jupiter is combust the native feels that they are unable to meet a set of ideals which their ego considers necessary for spiritual blessings. The self is attached to the need for perfect and noble behavior in order to be worthy of God's grace. They are unable to accept themselves with their own imperfections and feel that God will not either. There is little room for self-forgiveness and a resulting lack of faith in God's interest in their personal welfare. They may easily believe that others can receive Gods blessings, but that they are unable to believe that they themselves can. This creates a feeling of purposelessness in their activities, including their spiritual activities, because they feel that no matter what the effort they are still imperfect and therefore worthless in God's eyes. In essence when Jupiter is combust the native is angry at religion or God for making it impossible for them.
Generally the issues revolving around a combust Jupiter are developed as a result of experiencing some belief system that was presented in a dogmatic fashion. This belief system or the manners in which it was presented, would not have allowed for the normal feelings and desires which all humans have. Being of perfect behavior, word and thought would have been stressed with no practical methods being taught to control the mind and transcend desires. The individual would then be left in despair, without hope for any possible salvation.
Another consideration of Jupiter's combustion is that the native will feel insecure about their knowledge or wisdom. This will cause them frustration and anger when confronted by something they do not understand. Rather than admit that they do not understand they are more likely to act as if it is unimportant at the moment and try to sneak out of dealing with their lack of understanding.
Chart:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2Cla4OJWz6nVmN6LTZrMDVxSTg/view?usp=sharing
RE: The Astrology Thread - shub - 01-16-2015
Hey maniac360!
I've not read the computer generated part, am reading on my very slow Android... And I wanna post a more detailed follow up post, coz in the part before 'computer generated' part, I think that's your analysis and it is very interesting, some points that you have made..
Am posting this to thank you for your effort and time, I appreciate it, thanks a lot man!
RE: The Astrology Thread - shub - 01-21-2015
Quote:In this 4 planets, there is something that attract attention, that is the very strong conjunction between Mercury and Jupiter (2°). This kind of conjunction create people like Richard bandler or Jim carrey. When they use communication the sky's the limit for them. One other things to mention is the 10th house. I saw another chart where there were 4 or more planet in the 10th house and the person was almost “born” behind camera, she was acting at a very young age behind million of people. It doesn’t mean you will also but this kind of people are born to be leader or put in a place above people.
http://www.astrolada.com/stellium-of-4-o...e-pioneers
Well I also am an actor :-) but I haven't had much success till now in my field.
Quote:One thing to mention though is that both your Jupiter and mercury is combust with the Sun which should weaken their power very much. So don’t expect things to be perfect.
So this weakening of power is not good for my career, am I right? Is there anything one can do to rectify it?
Quote:Since 17 september 2014 you have reach your sub period Jupiter/Moon.
So what does it mean for me?
Quote:So I expect than from september 2014 this aspect from libra (7th house) should have appear in your life, maybe you are looking for love or you some new kind of transaction with a business partner.
That is true, Since last few months I have had such a strong desire to find love, I have NEVER had this before in my life, I NEVER felt like getting married and suddenly I am now feeling that, although I am not yet professionally (hence financially) settled!
Also why I quoted the previous and this passage, because in September 2014 I quit my job to be on my own...
So is there any more light you can shed on the period beginning September 2014.
The computer generated part is also mostly pretty true!!
The fact that the computer generated part is mostly true makes me feel that I have not been successful in being free from my karma, or in other words I have not liberated myself from my faults or I have not learnt my lessons, it also makes me feel that whatever I think I have done (in terms of self improvement) was basically destined. And I recently started believing that probably our purpose on this earth is to become free of our karma, or to overcome the faults that are ingrained in our destiny or karma...I don't know if am making sense :-) it probably ended up being just a rambling!!
RE: The Astrology Thread - JackOfHearts - 01-21-2015
(01-21-2015, 01:08 AM)shub Wrote: The fact that the computer generated part is mostly true makes me feel that I have not been successful in being free from my karma, or in other words I have not liberated myself from my faults or I have not learnt my lessons, it also makes me feel that whatever I think I have done (in terms of self improvement) was basically destined. And I recently started believing that probably our purpose on this earth is to become free of our karma, or to overcome the faults that are ingrained in our destiny or karma...I don't know if am making sense :-) it probably ended up being just a rambling!!
You can improve your destiny but totally change it: it may take time and not everyone might be able to do it.
I didn't discover any people yet who are not influenced by their birth chart and at this point it's not that easy to check how you have improved in a birth chart. I need to study more. What I do is too basic to go that deep.
And If I would be able to do it then it would take a lot of time and money.
Life is the result of karma + will. Most be people are in automatic mode which is karma only.
I'll answer the others question later.
RE: The Astrology Thread - shub - 04-05-2015
Hey Alpha360,
If you could find time and interest, I'd love it if you could answer the other questions
Thanks
RE: The Astrology Thread - TheRealJustin - 04-05-2015
Personally, I don't believe in astrology or destiny at all. I think people who read horoscopes find them to be accurate because of the law of attraction. They read they will have a good day, and they believe it so they end up having a good day, same with bad days.
If someone were to take everyone of a certain sign though and ask them all how their day was, it would all be completely different. I believe in the placebo effect, and the law of attraction (to an extent) but I'm pretty sure the reason why religions say to stay away fom horoscopes and astrology is because they understand if you believe the stuff you'll see it come to pass whether it's good or bad.
Example I guess could be, someone could have potentionally had a normal to good day, but read the horoscope in the morning and it could say they were going to have a bad day and look out for someone that's out to get them, and then they believe it strongly so they end up having a horrible day.
I believe horoscopes are very accurate, but only if you read them, because you are the one that makes them work and makes what they say come to pass. I know plenty of people that are the same sign as me (aeries) and we all have different days and years. I could have a great year and another aeries could have the worst year ever, same with days, weeks, months, everything.
Astrology is nothing and has no effect on anybody unless they read it and believe it, and I recommend staying away from it, but that's just my opinion on it.
RE: The Astrology Thread - JackOfHearts - 04-06-2015
I'll look into it when I got the time, for now I stopped astrology because I'm focusing on other things.
RE: The Astrology Thread - JackOfHearts - 04-06-2015
(04-05-2015, 09:59 AM)TheRealJustin Wrote: Personally, I don't believe in astrology or destiny at all. I think people who read horoscopes find them to be accurate because of the law of attraction. They read they will have a good day, and they believe it so they end up having a good day, same with bad days.I love people who post on a thread they didn't even read
If someone were to take everyone of a certain sign though and ask them all how their day was, it would all be completely different. I believe in the placebo effect, and the law of attraction (to an extent) but I'm pretty sure the reason why religions say to stay away fom horoscopes and astrology is because they understand if you believe the stuff you'll see it come to pass whether it's good or bad.
Example I guess could be, someone could have potentionally had a normal to good day, but read the horoscope in the morning and it could say they were going to have a bad day and look out for someone that's out to get them, and then they believe it strongly so they end up having a horrible day.
I believe horoscopes are very accurate, but only if you read them, because you are the one that makes them work and makes what they say come to pass. I know plenty of people that are the same sign as me (aeries) and we all have different days and years. I could have a great year and another aeries could have the worst year ever, same with days, weeks, months, everything.
Astrology is nothing and has no effect on anybody unless they read it and believe it, and I recommend staying away from it, but that's just my opinion on it.
it shows how smart they are. Read carefully what I wrote and you'll notice that astrology is not just one sign on a newspaper or the bs they tell you. Then I would be glad to show you what astrology is. I don't need to tell an horoscope to someone to know how is life is. I think I proved it here that it's not a mere coincidence even with my beginner skills. Study a bit what astrology is, learn it for one week then you'll get convince by yourself that it works. I don't need to have faith in it, it's factual data, it's science Here is where you should start:
http://www.astrolada.com/birthchart-calculator
there is plenty of articles on this website to get you started. And read at least the beginning of a thread next time before posting some irrelevant stuff at the end.
RE: The Astrology Thread - TheRealJustin - 04-06-2015
(04-06-2015, 02:41 AM)Alpha360 Wrote:(04-05-2015, 09:59 AM)TheRealJustin Wrote: Personally, I don't believe in astrology or destiny at all. I think people who read horoscopes find them to be accurate because of the law of attraction. They read they will have a good day, and they believe it so they end up having a good day, same with bad days.I love people who post on a thread they didn't even read
If someone were to take everyone of a certain sign though and ask them all how their day was, it would all be completely different. I believe in the placebo effect, and the law of attraction (to an extent) but I'm pretty sure the reason why religions say to stay away fom horoscopes and astrology is because they understand if you believe the stuff you'll see it come to pass whether it's good or bad.
Example I guess could be, someone could have potentionally had a normal to good day, but read the horoscope in the morning and it could say they were going to have a bad day and look out for someone that's out to get them, and then they believe it strongly so they end up having a horrible day.
I believe horoscopes are very accurate, but only if you read them, because you are the one that makes them work and makes what they say come to pass. I know plenty of people that are the same sign as me (aeries) and we all have different days and years. I could have a great year and another aeries could have the worst year ever, same with days, weeks, months, everything.
Astrology is nothing and has no effect on anybody unless they read it and believe it, and I recommend staying away from it, but that's just my opinion on it.
Here is where you should start:
http://www.astrolada.com/birthchart-calculator
there is plenty of articles on this website to get you started. And read at least the beginning of a thread next time before posting some irrelevant stuff at the end.
If there's two people, one is having the worst day ever, and the other is having the best day ever, and they have the same exact birthday, then how do you figure astrology isn't anything more than placebo/law of attraction/self fulfilling prophecy? I already know if I look into astrology I'll see it being right all the time, and that's why I don't look into it. If you strongly believe in that stuff, and you read that you will have the worst year of your life, you can bet your bottom dollar that you are 100% going to have the worst year of your life. It has nothing to do with your birthday, it's just a self fulfilling prophecy. If you take everyone on Earth with your same birthday, you will all have completely different days/weeks/months/years/and lives. You are right though, I didn't read any of this I just started posting my thoughts for no reason. I'm just super opinionated, it's something I need to work on.
RE: The Astrology Thread - JackOfHearts - 04-06-2015
You still haven't, your answer is written on the first post. No one have the same "birth date" even twins have different birth date even if it's only 20 second it makes an individual different.
You have three essential components needed for an horoscope, the birth date "2 fev 1968", the birth time "10pm", the birth place "Paris" . I never met 2 individual who have the same horoscope, it's almost impossible, I would be happy to find one. Twins are the only one I suppose who has almost the same horoscope. But still a great astrologer can tell the difference with only 20-40 seconds. Even seconds matter.
I'm not stupid, a lot of smart people believe in astrology, do you think they didn't come up with that kind of question? Astrology when done properly is like a science, it's like gravity, it works. If someone try to prove that astrology doesn't work with factual evidence he will have a hard time unless he just says some bs like most people do. The thing that would be interesting to know is what happens if someone is born in space because we don't have his birth place, or it is a very different birth place.
RE: The Astrology Thread - JackOfHearts - 04-06-2015
I will take this fake individual as example:
2/02/1968, 10:00pm, Paris.
He is ascendant Aries, Moon Pisces, Sun aquarius( Sign found in the newspaper).
I take this same individual but born 2 hours later:
2/02/1968, 12:00pm, Paris.
He is ascendant Taurus, Moon Pisces, Sun aquarius( Sign found in the newspaper). The ascendant is considered as the most important sign in Vedic astrology (it changes every 2 hours). Of course there is a lot more than has change within this 2 hours. Just look at the 2 different chart here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2Cla4OJWz6nbDl6dldRWWxmWVU/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2Cla4OJWz6ndzJfVnlsOGhzNWc/view?usp=sharing
RE: The Astrology Thread - TheRealJustin - 04-07-2015
(04-06-2015, 10:22 PM)Alpha360 Wrote: You still haven't, your answer is written on the first post. No one have the same "birth date" even twins have different birth date even if it's only 20 second it makes an individual different.
You have three essential components needed for an horoscope, the birth date "2 fev 1968", the birth time "10pm", the birth place "Paris" . I never met 2 individual who have the same horoscope, it's almost impossible, I would be happy to find one. Twins are the only one I suppose who has almost the same horoscope. But still a great astrologer can tell the difference with only 20-40 seconds. Even seconds matter.
I'm not stupid, a lot of smart people believe in astrology, do you think they didn't come up with that kind of question? Astrology when done properly is like a science, it's like gravity, it works. If someone try to prove that astrology doesn't work with factual evidence he will have a hard time unless he just says some bs like most people do. The thing that would be interesting to know is what happens if someone is born in space because we don't have his birth place, or it is a very different birth place.
You could be 100% right, I never meant to make you feel like I thought you were stupid. I don't know much about the topic, and like I said I need to work on how opinionated I am, and how I always just speak my opinion when it's not asked for. There's a lot of things I realize about myself that I don't like the older I get, but I do like that I do realize my flaws so I can work on them instead of staying blind to them.