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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 11-17-2016 (11-17-2016, 12:21 AM)Mr. Anderson Wrote:(11-17-2016, 12:14 AM)Shannon Wrote: I don't know what PMO is, it would be helpful to know what that is to answer the question. It would also be helpful to know what you are referring to in terms of titles. Some titles are designed to speed up the healing process, for example. And not everything is in 5.5 or even 5G. According to my research, addiction consists of two distinct parts. There's a chemical component, and there's the psychological component. Also according to my research, the chemical component almost always takes a back seat to the psychological component in terms of why people are addicted. It may begin with a physical addiction, but the addiction usually becomes psychological after that and that aspect is what causes the majority of the issue recovering. In some cases, the psychological is what drives the person to the physical, seeking escape. The real issue is the psychological, because it will be either what drives the choices that result in addictive behavior, or what actually prevents the person from stopping their addictive behavior. The former is usually seen when the person is using their addiction of choice as a means to escape something (usually guilt, shame, fear or pain of some kind). The latter is seen in that case and when the physical addiction starts by sufficient exposure to physically addictive things otherwise. They basically become convinced that they cannot do without the addictive action, experience or substance, and their responses to that belief end up becoming a feedback loop of self fulfilling prophecy that becomes stronger and stronger. In either case, if you find the root cause of the addiction psychologically and deal with them, it is usually not really very difficult to get past a physical addiction if it is done right. But it is the psychological that locks the person in. Addiction, contrary to popular mythology, is not a "disease". Labeling it as such only gives an addict an excuse to be and act like an addict by taking away their personal responsibility for their choice of actions. Is withdrawal fun? No. But you don't have to suffer withdrawal if you come off the addictive substance gently and slowly enough. And you will have a lot less withdrawal when your subconscious is not convinced that withdrawal symptoms are what you want from it. What we fear, we focus on. And what we focus on, repeat and attach emotional intensity to, we train. So by experiencing withdrawal, you can effectively train your conscious to fear it, and thereby train your subconscious that "this is what must happen whenever I do X". Sounds completely irrational, and it is. The subconscious mind happens to be the seat of the emotional awareness, and although not entirely irrational, it is definitely not all logical thinking either. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - posh - 11-17-2016 shannon you need to explain what you mean when u say ur working on different modules. none of us know what things like "Currently working on AUTBFS module for MIR/DMSI." even mean. If would be helpful if u explained what the modules were for. thanks RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - posh - 11-17-2016 (11-16-2016, 01:17 PM)Illumi Wrote: Shannon care to elaborate more about the " concious part of the sniper " in DMSI v2.5 what happened? what did the woman do? RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Dmitry - 11-17-2016 Shannon, I saw that some scripts (open library) contain wording "reject". In Russian language "rejection" is quite a synonym for "suppress", "something I don't want to see". Rejection, as suppresion is considered one of the most causes of deseases and, per se, cancer. I don't want to seed the panic just want to clarify: "distancing", "disidentification" are more propriate? In my consulting practice people are starting resolve and heal there issues by "looking at something as it is", "giving it a space to be" and training themselves to see the truth of the cause in its wholeness, then distancing and disidentify with "issues" and then healing process automatically takes place. "What we reject are becoming our destiny" free wording of Carl G. Jung sentence. Can you explain or comment that? RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shawn - 11-17-2016 (11-17-2016, 04:01 AM)posh Wrote: shannon you need to explain what you mean when u say ur working on different modules. none of us know what things like "Currently working on AUTBFS module for MIR/DMSI." even mean. If would be helpful if u explained what the modules were for. These modules are trade secrets. Nobody knows what they are really doing other than helping the program to work. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - robstar - 11-17-2016 Shannon I think another sub that would potentially help you become a multimillionaire would be a "Be free from all addictions" sub. It would've best for it to not force the user to never do or take the addictive element again, because most people don't like the idea that they don't have a choice, but rather gets the user free of the addictive component, destroying the addict mind so to speak so the user is free to do or not do what they choose. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Dmitry - 11-17-2016 (11-17-2016, 06:40 AM)robstar Wrote: Shannon I think another sub that would potentially help you become a multimillionaire would be a "Be free from all addictions" sub. It would've best for it to not force the user to never do or take the addictive element again, because most people don't like the idea that they don't have a choice, but rather gets the user free of the addictive component, destroying the addict mind so to speak so the user is free to do or not do what they choose. If unconscious causes (secondary gains) to take addicts material are solved/healed, then there are no reasons to continue the use of drugs and etc. Don't consider the unconscious stupid: if drugs are "giving" something to user, that cannot be obtained via "normal" ways, the person will continue the addictive behavior. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Duke.Togo - 11-17-2016 (11-17-2016, 06:52 AM)Dmitry Wrote:(11-17-2016, 06:40 AM)robstar Wrote: Shannon I think another sub that would potentially help you become a multimillionaire would be a "Be free from all addictions" sub. It would've best for it to not force the user to never do or take the addictive element again, because most people don't like the idea that they don't have a choice, but rather gets the user free of the addictive component, destroying the addict mind so to speak so the user is free to do or not do what they choose. It depends on the drug, and in many cases it goes beyond just what the subconscious wants. On the one hand, yes, there is a mental factor that it starts with, but look at Heroine and Crack, those were physically addictive substances. Nicotine is the worst drug because it is socially acceptable. Drug use and addiction can have several factors to it, and while there is a mental role at play, there are also physical addictions that need to be considered. I'm not the expert on this, so I'm sure Shannon has a better grasp of the material, but I personally had a friend who OD'd on heroine. He also happened to come from a good family, was a Harvard Law School graduate and had a 2 year old son and a beautiful wife that he left behind. In the end he was out of control. What and why and how it all happened is a long winded history, but what I do know is there was a physical element to it all that he had to get a fix for. All I'm saying is addiction isn't always a simple subconscious needing something argument. I don't think there's anything simple about addiction. But again, I'm not an expert. I would default to Shannon on how effective a sub can be in instances like this. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Dmitry - 11-17-2016 (11-17-2016, 07:05 AM)Duke.Togo Wrote:(11-17-2016, 06:52 AM)Dmitry Wrote:(11-17-2016, 06:40 AM)robstar Wrote: Shannon I think another sub that would potentially help you become a multimillionaire would be a "Be free from all addictions" sub. It would've best for it to not force the user to never do or take the addictive element again, because most people don't like the idea that they don't have a choice, but rather gets the user free of the addictive component, destroying the addict mind so to speak so the user is free to do or not do what they choose. Duke ![]() From my experience (btw, I'm a psychiatrist by my first education), people who used "heavy" drugs (and heavy alchoholism) in 98% occasions had an unconscious tendency to die. I.e. subconscious tendency to die. Its complicated to explain (I don't want to flood offtopic) but just think about it. I think that E2 can be a choice for addicts. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Ricardo - 11-17-2016 (11-17-2016, 12:12 AM)Shannon Wrote:(11-16-2016, 06:25 PM)K-Train Wrote: Shannon the fellas and I have been responding to this thread here, here, and here. Note: those are my posts but they also encompass the ideas laid forth by others in the thread. RTBoss, Alpha360, Ricardo, and Maxx contributed as well. Just throwing that out there. All links are in chronological order. Time may not be the issue going forward but whether the 'perfect' person actually exist in the first place is still the Achilles heel as far as I can see. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - K-Train - 11-17-2016 (11-17-2016, 10:17 AM)Ricardo Wrote: Time may not be the issue going forward but whether the 'perfect' person actually exist in the first place is still the Achilles heel as far as I can see. Exactly. Although I wonder if it could be specified to have the program direct the subconscious to search based off of how close a person is to "perfect". Going back to the 1-10 scale with 1 = no compatibility and 10 = perfect/near perfect compatibility let's say that a woman that is a "10" (based off compatibility and other criteria) does not currently exist or is in a situation that would prevent her from interacting with the user . Could the program simply choose from the next available person who comes the closest to "perfect"? Side Note: If DMSI works correctly then the AYP's working properly won't be as big of a deal. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shawn - 11-17-2016 I don't see the "perfect" as a problem. I mean, it is relative to where you are at life. And if I remember it is defined by your subconscious. The only reason it would fail if someone simply doesn't have the basic skills to interact with women and escalating to sex. And I am not talking about PUA master level skills here, just about being able to make a move here and there. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - JackOfHearts - 11-17-2016 Manifestation doesn't even require skills as far as I understood reading Shannon journal. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shawn - 11-17-2016 Well, I am simply talking about basic interaction skills. Or the other way, no overwhelming guilt, shame and fear to be able to do something about it as well as no self sabotage. The last one really destroyed all chances for me. |