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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Greenduck - 01-29-2019
(01-29-2019, 02:29 PM)Shannon Wrote: Greenduck, I am pretty sure your case is completely different than that of NoLimit.
Maybe, maybe not. There may be similarities, obvious or not obvious.
- We should not pretend to understand the world only by the intellect. The judgement of the intellect is only part of the truth. Carl Jung
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 01-29-2019
(01-29-2019, 02:48 PM)Greenduck Wrote:(01-29-2019, 02:29 PM)Shannon Wrote: Greenduck, I am pretty sure your case is completely different than that of NoLimit.
Maybe, maybe not.
- We should not pretend to understand the world only by the intellect. The judgement of the intellect is only part of the truth. Carl Jung
We should also not pretend to understand the world through the eyes of fear, as fear is a liar and a very convincing one.
The issue he is having is that he is fearful of executing the FRM, and the program is too powerful for him not to. Oddly, it is apparently not too powerful for him to override the instructions that should be making the execution comfortable.
This isn't about blocked energy, it's about a subconscious part or parts that are afraid and cannot escape without literally and physically escaping.
This is what I said would happen when we got to the point that we were close to finished; there would only be two options left: execute, or run away.
Running away doesn't get the job done.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - NoLimit - 01-29-2019
(01-29-2019, 12:50 PM)Shannon Wrote: When you say you're banging hard every night, is that banging out the loops of DMSI, or banging out the girls?
The guuuuurls
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Greenduck - 01-29-2019
(01-29-2019, 02:57 PM)Shannon Wrote:(01-29-2019, 02:48 PM)Greenduck Wrote:(01-29-2019, 02:29 PM)Shannon Wrote: Greenduck, I am pretty sure your case is completely different than that of NoLimit.
Maybe, maybe not.
- We should not pretend to understand the world only by the intellect. The judgement of the intellect is only part of the truth. Carl Jung
We should also not pretend to understand the world through the eyes of fear, as fear is a liar and a very convincing one.
The issue he is having is that he is fearful of executing the FRM, and the program is too powerful for him not to. Oddly, it is apparently not too powerful for him to override the instructions that should be making the execution comfortable.
This isn't about blocked energy, it's about a subconscious part or parts that are afraid and cannot escape without literally and physically escaping.
This is what I said would happen when we got to the point that we were close to finished; there would only be two options left: execute, or run away.
Running away doesn't get the job done.
Agreed. But why would then this fear come up specifically at the 5-6 hour mark every time? I would place my bet on physical limitations to process the script.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - MasterEnki - 01-29-2019
@Shannon
I just read your post about how some people get subconscious boredom after about 3 months,
If someone definitely gets subconscious boredom, and they do something like AYP / MYP that typically requires much longer than 3 months, then can subconscious boredom derail the manifestation?
How would subconscious boredom affect AYP / MYP?
Would a bored subconscious just stop manifestating / stop doing the manifestation sequence (such as providing a steady flow of energy towards the manifestation) once it is bored?
What should a person with subconscious boredom do, if they want success with AYP / MYP?
Personally, I’m not sure if I get bored subconsciously, but maybe I do.
After 12 months or AYP FWB 4G, I didn’t get the main manifestation (fully sexual FWB). After finding out that the subconscious can get bored, I’m wondering whether that could be a factor in not getting an obvious manifestation after 12 months of use.
My next step is to get a 5.5G program (most likely E3) with FRM and do that for a while. But I will be attempting AYP again sometime in the future (maybe it will be available in 6G then).
Thanks
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 01-29-2019
(01-29-2019, 03:05 PM)Greenduck Wrote:(01-29-2019, 02:57 PM)Shannon Wrote:(01-29-2019, 02:48 PM)Greenduck Wrote:(01-29-2019, 02:29 PM)Shannon Wrote: Greenduck, I am pretty sure your case is completely different than that of NoLimit.
Maybe, maybe not.
- We should not pretend to understand the world only by the intellect. The judgement of the intellect is only part of the truth. Carl Jung
We should also not pretend to understand the world through the eyes of fear, as fear is a liar and a very convincing one.
The issue he is having is that he is fearful of executing the FRM, and the program is too powerful for him not to. Oddly, it is apparently not too powerful for him to override the instructions that should be making the execution comfortable.
This isn't about blocked energy, it's about a subconscious part or parts that are afraid and cannot escape without literally and physically escaping.
This is what I said would happen when we got to the point that we were close to finished; there would only be two options left: execute, or run away.
Running away doesn't get the job done.
Agreed. But why would then this fear come up specifically at the 5-6 hour mark every time? I would place my bet on physical limitations to process the script.
I place my bet on, that's the amount of time it takes for the executing part to begin overpowering the resisting part, sending it into extreme panic mode.
The real question is, why isn't the comforting scripting working? That has me baffled all to hell. It's designed to make the processing and changes comfortable, and prevent fear and resistance to the FRM. I guess this is a more complex problem to solve than I thought, yet again.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 01-29-2019
(01-29-2019, 03:27 PM)MasterEnki Wrote: @Shannon
I just read your post about how some people get subconscious boredom after about 3 months,
If someone definitely gets subconscious boredom, and they do something like AYP / MYP that typically requires much longer than 3 months, then can subconscious boredom derail the manifestation?
In the case of manifestation subs as they currently exist within my library of programs, people who get bored subconsciously within 3 months don't stick with programs much longer than that, since the subconscious starts finding ways to incentivize more interesting choices than being bored. So it seems unlikely.
Quote:How would subconscious boredom affect AYP / MYP?
People for whom subconscious boredom is an issue tend to have their subconscious stop paying attention to and executing the script after boredom sets in, which is why we have multi-stage programs and use single stage programs in blocks of 3 months at a time. Taking time off can help, but people who get this issue don't stay on subs that bore their subconscious.
Quote:Would a bored subconscious just stop manifestating / stop doing the manifestation sequence (such as providing a steady flow of energy towards the manifestation) once it is bored?
It ignores the instruction set and stops executing it. Or at least, it used to. There are now instructions in 5.5G subs that should delay or prevent this significantly.
Quote:What should a person with subconscious boredom do, if they want success with AYP / MYP?
Probably the best thing to do is take a month ff every 2-4 months, and then continue for another 3-4 months. But that's not you, so don't give yourself yet another excuse to waste your life.
Quote:Personally, I’m not sure if I get bored subconsciously, but maybe I do.
If you were bored subconsciously, you would have switched to a different title after 3-4 months without any prompting. Instead, you have stubbornly resisted all attempts to keep you from futilely wasting the only resource you can never get back, because you aren't executing in the first place.
Quote:After 12 months or AYP FWB 4G, I didn’t get the main manifestation (fully sexual FWB). After finding out that the subconscious can get bored, I’m wondering whether that could be a factor in not getting an obvious manifestation after 12 months of use.
No, it can't be. That personality type cannot handle being bored, and will do almost anything to escape it. They certainly don't stand around for a year making excuses to stay on a program that bores their subconscious.
Quote:My next step is to get a 5.5G program (most likely E3) with FRM and do that for a while. But I will be attempting AYP again sometime in the future (maybe it will be available in 6G then).
Thanks
In 6G, I will have vastly more advanced manifestation programs available, and backed up by the 6G skeleton script, it should be very much more effective, even for people like you.
In your case, I suggest that you also consider LTU 5.5G.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - MasterEnki - 01-29-2019
@Shannon
Glad I'm not a bored subconscious type of person
In 2018 I did get a non-sexual FWB ('making out' friend) who regularly initiates making out, and seems to be really attracted to me. Though it hasn't lead to sex (for whatever reason). The last time we made out was in Jan 2019, just over a week ago. So I did make some sort of progress.
LTU 5.5G is my first choice, but $500+ is a bit much ATM (Unless I get a bank loan, or save for several months). I was thinking that E3 (or one of the other 114.95 subs) is a more affordable option that I can afford by Feb 2019. I may get a 114.95 sub in Feb, and save up for LTU 5.5G
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 01-29-2019
(01-29-2019, 04:38 PM)MasterEnki Wrote: @Shannon
Glad I'm not a bored subconscious type of person
In 2018 I did get a non-sexual FWB ('making out' friend) who regularly initiates making out, and seems to be really attracted to me. Though it hasn't lead to sex (for whatever reason). The last time we made out was in Jan 2019, just over a week ago. So I did make some sort of progress.
Hate to break this to you, but making out does not constitute a friend with benefits. It's a woman who is either using you for the pleasure of making out, or a woman who is on the fence about whether to fuck you, and ends up deciding not to. That would have had nothing to do with a positive result manifested from the sub. Now if you told me that you met a woman who you somehow ended up in bed with and balls deep and it just felt right, but looking back, how did that happen, then I'd be like... yeah, that sounds like a manifestation. Or a woman who blew you off before suddenly becoming a lover, that could have been one too. Making out is something women do to shit test you and/or "try it out" in a lot of cases. I'm afraid your subconscious has you firmly by the balls on this one.
Quote:LTU 5.5G is my first choice, but $500+ is a bit much ATM (Unless I get a bank loan, or save for several months). I was thinking that E3 (or one of the other 114.95 subs) is a more affordable option that I can afford by Feb 2019. I may get a 114.95 sub in Feb, and save up for LTU 5.5G
If that's the case, yes, E3 is a better choice.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - findingme - 01-29-2019
Shannon,
Originally, you considered having Universal Detox in the LTU mix. Is it still included?
I've been reading your updates regularly via your personal journal, and you shared how the LTU/E3 mix was making you and your girlfriend very emotional.
I asked about UD since after a few weeks on UD, I experienced similar feelings. I'm doing E2 presently again, but I've rarely had clear, strong reactions on it. So I thought I'd ask about LTU's present makeup.
And thank you for including Happiness and Joy in it too. Feeling good never gets tiresome
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 01-29-2019
(01-29-2019, 04:49 PM)findingme Wrote: Shannon,
Originally, you considered having Universal Detox in the LTU mix. Is it still included?
So far, yes.
Quote:I've been reading your updates regularly via your personal journal, and you shared how the LTU/E3 mix was making you and your girlfriend very emotional.
I asked about UD since after a few weeks on UD, I experienced similar feelings. I'm doing E2 presently again, but I've rarely had clear, strong reactions on it. So I thought I'd ask about LTU's present makeup.
And thank you for including Happiness and Joy in it too. Feeling good never gets tiresome
Are you saying you're experiencing TID?
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - findingme - 01-29-2019
(01-29-2019, 05:28 PM)Shannon Wrote:(01-29-2019, 04:49 PM)findingme Wrote: Shannon,
Originally, you considered having Universal Detox in the LTU mix. Is it still included?
So far, yes.
Quote:I've been reading your updates regularly via your personal journal, and you shared how the LTU/E3 mix was making you and your girlfriend very emotional.
I asked about UD since after a few weeks on UD, I experienced similar feelings. I'm doing E2 presently again, but I've rarely had clear, strong reactions on it. So I thought I'd ask about LTU's present makeup.
And thank you for including Happiness and Joy in it too. Feeling good never gets tiresome
Are you saying you're experiencing TID?
I thought so days ago, though I don't remember why presently. I'd actually mentioned Happiness and Joy since you mentioned it in my original UD journal when I was sad for days since it blew up my BS lifeline. I did buy and use Happiness and Joy 4G many months back, and it definitely feels good. One of my main motivations for LTU is actually the power of UD, but more balanced. Adding E3 with the FRM in there is also a very strong incentive for me--a major one. I wish to be comfortable with me.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Superman - 01-29-2019
I'm not sure if this has been reported already. I downloaded the trickling stream masked version of DMSI 3.3.1, playing on an android phone using VLC and it will randomly cut out for a few seconds and pick back up with some static. I've tried rewinding it to see if it cuts out at the same spot but it doesn't cut out.
Is this happening to anyone else?
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - DavisMind91 - 01-29-2019
Love the E3/UD/Happiness and joy combo that’ll be in here. Wanted to ask if UMS will also be in Ltu.