(08-18-2020, 07:40 AM)reki Wrote: Clarify me but before I saw that sleepphones are not capable of reaching 20khz which all these subs require. But that's only if you play by ultrasonic. For me ultrasonic is the best. I don't see much results with the Masked and Masked Ultrasonic. It also bothers me while sleeping.

(08-18-2020, 07:40 AM)reki Wrote:

(08-17-2020, 11:56 AM)AsIGotHitByACar Wrote: My thinking is that if there are free subs that serve work and a purpose, then of course I would consider purchasing another if I genuinely felt that I was benefitting from one of these.  To date, I have not been convinced.  I am not rubbishing their supposed value, I just firmly believe that if a free one does not affect me then I see no reason to take it any further with a paid one.  I appreciate what you are saying about the 6G, this is the first I have learned of it.  I would be keen to try a more advanced sub, just not willing to pay as it simply does not make any sense with no apparent results.  I'm sure everyone can respect where I am coming from.

I'm with you in this one. I'm currently using the free version of EPHRA (the 5g version) and will run it for at least 3 months probably before I will decide if I will buy the newer version. Those saying that it doesn't work as well because it is not the new version should be taken with a grain of salt. I may be new here but I've been browsing since Alpha Male 4.0 and have even used Alpha Male 3.0

I have used 3g subs like Learn Any Musical Instrument 3g and in my experience back then (2014), it worked in a way and somehow forced me to practice. I didn't became a musical genius but I can tell it worked. Saying a 5g version as inferior is downright absurd as 3g and 4g itself does work.

I respect your opinion that's why in a way I bumped up your thread so others can see it and also you can give subs a try. Maybe the EPHRA itself manifests differently from you but I don't know. Maybe Shannon can post here and enlighten us all. Feel free to critique me on what I have written here.

(08-17-2020, 11:56 AM)AsIGotHitByACar Wrote: I have been focusing elsewhere than on subs for my personal development in recent times.  I do not intend to criticise the value of any of the subs, but I do believe that I have given them a lot of my time and I truly have been listening to them in the recommended methods (sleepphones, stereo bedside speakers) for extended periods.  Due to lockdown, I haven't left home in six months so I've had all that time of uninterrupted 6-8 hours of EPRHA every night without fail.

If EPRHA 1 or ASC 5G don't bring about any noticeable results, then I don't really see a reason to try any of the advanced ones.

When will you start the ASC 5g? Keep us updated here at least once a week. It will also help you see if you get to see changes or not.

Clarify me but before I saw that sleepphones are not capable of reaching 20khz which all these subs require. But that's only if you play by ultrasonic. For me ultrasonic is the best. I don't see much results with the Masked and Masked Ultrasonic. It also bothers me while sleeping.

(08-18-2020, 08:10 AM)RTBoss Wrote:

(08-18-2020, 07:40 AM)reki Wrote: Clarify me but before I saw that sleepphones are not capable of reaching 20khz which all these subs require. But that's only if you play by ultrasonic. For me ultrasonic is the best. I don't see much results with the Masked and Masked Ultrasonic. It also bothers me while sleeping.

Sleep Phones Speaker Info

According to this, they are capable of 20kHz.  Furthermore, competitor products such as Cozy Phones (which I have used without issue) are also capable.

(08-19-2020, 08:01 AM)reki Wrote:

(08-18-2020, 08:10 AM)RTBoss Wrote:

(08-18-2020, 07:40 AM)reki Wrote: Clarify me but before I saw that sleepphones are not capable of reaching 20khz which all these subs require. But that's only if you play by ultrasonic. For me ultrasonic is the best. I don't see much results with the Masked and Masked Ultrasonic. It also bothers me while sleeping.

Sleep Phones Speaker Info

According to this, they are capable of 20kHz.  Furthermore, competitor products such as Cozy Phones (which I have used without issue) are also capable.

Well pretty much that just justifies that the sub didn't work for him because he followed all the rules. Is this just an anomaly or is that some subs here doesn't work to some people?

(08-18-2020, 10:09 AM)AsIGotHitByACar Wrote: I have been focusing elsewhere than on subs for my personal development in recent times.  I do not intend to criticise the value of any of the subs, but I do believe that I have given them a lot of my time and I truly have been listening to them in the recommended methods (sleepphones, stereo bedside speakers) for extended periods.  Due to lockdown, I haven't left home in six months so I've had all that time of uninterrupted 6-8 hours of EPRHA every night without fail.

If EPRHA 1 or ASC 5G don't bring about any noticeable results, then I don't really see a reason to try any of the advanced ones.

I played ASC trickling stream overnight last night.  I only really became interested in subs due to liking sleeping with wave/rain etc sounds at night - that and the abudance of emotional problems of course, "wow, two of my favourite things!"  .  I sleep great when I have such a sound, whether it is a sub or a spotify playlist, so I figured that even though I wasn't blown away by any subs, it wouldn't do any harm to continue to use them anyway.  This is why I've had a lot of exposure to EPHRA by now.  I've even upped the quality of my bedside speakers so I have matching Sonos Symfosnik lamps now - although this is a move inspired by being a music fan more than anything.  Whatever I sleep with playing, if it has a positive effect on me beyond quieting my thoughts then that's a bonus, obviously, but that's merely how serious I am taking it right now.  

I can post an update if I do feel ASC is beginning to take any kind of effect on me, but I'm not getting too excited about that prospect.  I see it as being something that will not do me any harm.  But I kind of think it's likely to be the end of the line for me, unless a free sub can really start speaking to me to some extent.  I'm not a cynic but I do need to be won over.

(08-19-2020, 09:18 AM)RTBoss Wrote: He may be a very resistant personality.  At least, a certain type.  For instance, I responded to EPHRA 5G without issue.  I actually respond to most subs without issue, but later generations much more so.  @CatMan also responded very well to ASC 5G, and then Alpha Male 5G.  But then he completely resisted Sex Magnet 5G - no results whatsoever.  He also heavily resists the DMSI series, but has had good results with Overcome Pornography 4G.  

Bottom line, you won't know how you're resisting subs unless you try different topics and generations.  And with the money back guarantee, I don't really see what there is to lose.

(08-19-2020, 09:18 AM)RTBoss Wrote:

(08-19-2020, 08:01 AM)reki Wrote:

(08-18-2020, 08:10 AM)RTBoss Wrote:

(08-18-2020, 07:40 AM)reki Wrote: Clarify me but before I saw that sleepphones are not capable of reaching 20khz which all these subs require. But that's only if you play by ultrasonic. For me ultrasonic is the best. I don't see much results with the Masked and Masked Ultrasonic. It also bothers me while sleeping.

Sleep Phones Speaker Info

According to this, they are capable of 20kHz.  Furthermore, competitor products such as Cozy Phones (which I have used without issue) are also capable.

Well pretty much that just justifies that the sub didn't work for him because he followed all the rules. Is this just an anomaly or is that some subs here doesn't work to some people?

He may be a very resistant personality.  At least, a certain type.  For instance, I responded to EPHRA 5G without issue.  I actually respond to most subs without issue, but later generations much more so.  @CatMan also responded very well to ASC 5G, and then Alpha Male 5G.  But then he completely resisted Sex Magnet 5G - no results whatsoever.  He also heavily resists the DMSI series, but has had good results with Overcome Pornography 4G.  

Bottom line, you won't know how you're resisting subs unless you try different topics and generations.  And with the money back guarantee, I don't really see what there is to lose.

(08-19-2020, 09:58 AM)reki Wrote:

(08-19-2020, 09:18 AM)RTBoss Wrote: He may be a very resistant personality.  At least, a certain type.  For instance, I responded to EPHRA 5G without issue.  I actually respond to most subs without issue, but later generations much more so.  @CatMan also responded very well to ASC 5G, and then Alpha Male 5G.  But then he completely resisted Sex Magnet 5G - no results whatsoever.  He also heavily resists the DMSI series, but has had good results with Overcome Pornography 4G.  

Bottom line, you won't know how you're resisting subs unless you try different topics and generations.  And with the money back guarantee, I don't really see what there is to lose.

You have a point but if that's the case I wouldn't put all my money and life on the line with the sub alone. I know Shannon said it's bad to try other stuff but in regards to that just do it man. With DMSI, if it doesn't work just f--- that and say to yourself you're one sexy mofo. With Sex Magnet, if you want to get sex you have to put yourself into alignment with it. You won't get sex just by being at home playing video games. Of course I think the sub will force you to go out but I believe if you're not getting something, you don't want it badly enough. You need to be going out and meeting women like 5 times a week at least. I mean ASC already clicked in so he already got the confidence. Women will follow. Money back guarantee is fine but I feel it is wasted time and energy still listening to a sub for 6 months and getting 0 results.

(08-19-2020, 09:58 AM)tolgaocal80 Wrote:

(08-19-2020, 09:18 AM)RTBoss Wrote:

(08-19-2020, 08:01 AM)reki Wrote:

(08-18-2020, 08:10 AM)RTBoss Wrote:

(08-18-2020, 07:40 AM)reki Wrote: Clarify me but before I saw that sleepphones are not capable of reaching 20khz which all these subs require. But that's only if you play by ultrasonic. For me ultrasonic is the best. I don't see much results with the Masked and Masked Ultrasonic. It also bothers me while sleeping.

Sleep Phones Speaker Info

According to this, they are capable of 20kHz.  Furthermore, competitor products such as Cozy Phones (which I have used without issue) are also capable.

Well pretty much that just justifies that the sub didn't work for him because he followed all the rules. Is this just an anomaly or is that some subs here doesn't work to some people?

He may be a very resistant personality.  At least, a certain type.  For instance, I responded to EPHRA 5G without issue.  I actually respond to most subs without issue, but later generations much more so.  @CatMan also responded very well to ASC 5G, and then Alpha Male 5G.  But then he completely resisted Sex Magnet 5G - no results whatsoever.  He also heavily resists the DMSI series, but has had good results with Overcome Pornography 4G.  

Bottom line, you won't know how you're resisting subs unless you try different topics and generations.  And with the money back guarantee, I don't really see what there is to lose.

exactyl, there is money back guarantee. So I guess this aproach "it is not working free subs for me so I won't even try the newer tech" is probably a great resistance type. 
As mr. RTboss said you have nothing to lose. if it doesnt't work you can ask for a refund

(08-19-2020, 10:02 AM)tolgaocal80 Wrote: Almost any of single stage subs doesn't take 6 months, just 3 months. And they generally showing effects as quickly as minutes. What kind of time waste can be pressing play button for 2-3 days to see if it is working? I am regarding 5.75 subs

(08-21-2020, 11:32 PM)reki Wrote: BTW OP, is English your first language?