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RE: SargeMaximus: I Feel It Coming, Part II [DMSI 3.1 A Invalid Tester] - SargeMaximus - 09-22-2017
Just got back from hairdresser. She was motor mouth, giggly. A bit touchy. Pressed her body up to my hands many times. Including her crotch but when I asked her what she was doing this weekend she had plans. Oh well.
EDIT:
The Notables:
- She was wearing a tight mini dress exposing her legs. Which are nice. She kept pulling it down as it would hike up.
- She was slow to start but once she got going, I couldn't get a word in edge-wise. Motor mouth.
- Giggling
- A few looks of fondness from her
- She was using ukranian language sometimes, telling me what "butt", "eggs", and "my love" were in ukranian. Some guy she knows told her. Maybe she was trying to make me jealous with that info or maybe he's the guy she's seeing atm. IDC either way.
- She pressed her body into my hand a few times, but this is the first time she put her crotch right to my hand. I decided against stroking it for a variety of reasons.
- She touched my hair in a fond way at one point. I know she's a hairdresser, this was different. Like that "grooming/push the hair to one side" thing.
RE: SargeMaximus: I Feel It Coming, Part II [DMSI 3.1 A Invalid Tester] - SargeMaximus - 09-23-2017
Obsessing over social skills.
I'm, starting to understand the WHY, which is crucial.
I never really got it before, now I'm starting to.
Still have a long way to go.
To be honest it will be lifelong, I just hope I can have sex with a lot of hot girls along the way. :/
Having a TON of crazy or long dreams recently. Since about last sunday I reckon.
Gonna go out to do sales today. Will update more as things pop up.
RE: SargeMaximus: I Feel It Coming, Part II [DMSI 3.1 A Invalid Tester] - SargeMaximus - 09-23-2017
I must be in the next tier of something.
Sales is not as easy as it used to be. I have to put in more effort, be more aware, and be way more careful not to mess up.
Got an app this morning. Woman was initially opposed to it but I hit the right buttons and I was inside her house, and she's showing me what needs done.
Her husband was also there. The guy saw me but never acknowledged me, even when I waved. He also ate some food with his back to us. :/
RE: SargeMaximus: I Feel It Coming, Part II [DMSI 3.1 A Invalid Tester] - SargeMaximus - 09-23-2017
Tonight as I was driving home I was thinking/mulling about internal vs. external locus/validation.
On the one hand, more people are smiling at me than ever before. More people say hi to me than ever before, more people are open to me than ever before, yet internally I feel like shit.
It's like I can't believe that is true. And yet, if I did and then relied on all that external stuff, it'd be very victim of me. :/
I hope I'm making sense.
Like, when doing D2D I have the hardest time motivating myself to ring a door bell these days. I imagine everything will go bad.
But then if I remind myself that things usually go right, my internal talk comes in and says "Don't be externally focused!"
So it's like I can never be happy or feel good about myself.
And then if I did but didn't get any sales, I'd tell myself it's because I'm too out of touch with reality.
Damn. It's harsh.
RE: SargeMaximus: I Feel It Coming, Part II [DMSI 3.1 A Invalid Tester] - SargeMaximus - 09-24-2017
Bought a ton of used books today.
There was a cute girl who definitely hovered around me but I was stuck in my head, couldn't talk to her.
On the other hand, there was a milf that I fancied who I was definitely going to make an effort to approach after I was done buying my stuff but she disappeared. I guess I could have gone looking for her.
ION, really close to a breakthrough in social skills. Things are starting to click and my efforts are paying off which is sweet.
Something is still missing, however. Need to find out what it is.
RE: SargeMaximus: I Feel It Coming, Part II [DMSI 3.1 A Invalid Tester] - SargeMaximus - 09-26-2017
Having lots of dreams as of late. Waking up multiple times in the night. Always with a boner too.
RE: SargeMaximus: I Feel It Coming, Part II [DMSI 3.1 A Invalid Tester] - SargeMaximus - 09-26-2017
1 Spray of Xist Applied to Left Wrist, then spread to Right Wrist and then each Side of Neck.
Felt overly annoyed at people. Also feeling angry. Having violent thoughts.
In sales, most people were dismissive except a few were very open and even intrigued or overly respectful.
No apps however. It may just be the area, but I gave some cards away which usually means they're not interested in dealing with YOU but they may be interested in dealing with the company.
Will go to the gym later to see what's up there.
So far the only real good results I've had in sales was with Dirty Primitive.
I think I'll try 2 Specks this coming thursday as tomorrow is my day off.
Also, reading that book "Influence" and so far it's useless. Tried some of his insights but they're having the opposite effect in sales.
RE: SargeMaximus: I Feel It Coming, Part II [DMSI 3.1 A Invalid Tester] - SargeMaximus - 09-26-2017
Have some thoughts on DMSI and perhaps what 3.2 needs.
Mostly this is just spitballing and brainstorming however.
With my bro tonight things were good. Not quite as good as yesterday but I did seem to "hook" him more.
Xist definitely hooks people if you can connect with them or share a moment.
Actually, I think sharing a moment is more powerful (and more important) than connecting now. Connecting is kind of like "ok, we're similar, now what?"
Whereas sharing a moment it's already implied that you are connected through the moment but also are moving towards something or growing together. You both have a common goal and are supporting one another towards it.
I think it's much better.
Jordan Belfort says that Rapport is built when people realize that you are someone who can help them achieve their goals.
I think that is much more powerful than being someone relatable to them.
In fact I know this because I did so well in sales when I focused ONLY on being the guy who can help people with their goals. This year, I'm focusing more on being relatable and conversation skills and pow, no luck.
I also remember back to when I was on AM 6 and how my trainer came to me to talk all the time. I had no convo skills. When i spoke, I was crass, rude, probably borderline retarded yet this guy wanted me in his inner circle.
SO I guess conversation skills aren't so important, but they are in some ways.
I guess we need to know how much.
So for 3.2 more focus on sharing those moments and being the supporting force than relating, would be my guess, but it's hard to say. I'm no expert in human relations or socializing.
All I'm going off is sales experience which is only 3 years, which isn't much to be very honest.
RE: SargeMaximus: I Feel It Coming, Part II [DMSI 3.1 A Invalid Tester] - SargeMaximus - 09-27-2017
Reading more of "Influence".
Fascinating book. Clearly the principles written about work, based on all the evidence.
One of the interesting stories was about a seminar where the author and his friend (an intellectual of some renown) attended.
As the presentation went on, the intellectual got more and more agitated. Finally, when the presentation was over, the sales guys asked for questions.
The intellectual raised his hand and they picked him. He then started asking them all manner of questions, creating an air-tight, logical argument for why their product didn't work.
Immediately afterwards, people from the audience rushed to the sales reps to buy the product. lol
The author says it was because they had hoped the product would be the solution to their problems and when that was at risk of being taken away (by the logical argument) they rushed to buy before they changed their minds.
I wonder if such a tactic could be used in DMSI.
Instead of being the logical case for being the best choice for a girl, what if we were the embodiment of her hopes?
In the same book, there is a story of a girl who was with a guy who drank and wouldn't agree to marry her.
She finally broke up with him and got engaged to another fellow.
That's when the guy came back, begging and pleading, convincing her he would change and even get married.
She called off the wedding, gave back the engagement ring and went back to her old BF.
They never ended up getting married, and he never quit drinking.
EDIT: In line with this, finally found a part of the book I've used in my own sales practices: it's called "the foot-in-the-door" technique. Definitely something we need in DMSI. I know Shannon doesn't have a lot of time, but I'd almost rather he read books like this before making the next DMSI incarnation for ideas.
RE: SargeMaximus: I Feel It Coming, Part II [DMSI 3.1 A Invalid Tester] - SargeMaximus - 09-27-2017
DMSI Notables (no mones today):
- Girl working the drive thru seemed very awestruck
- Just as I parked at a convenience store, a girl came out walking towards the car 2 parking spots over from me. I noticed her because she was quite attractive to me. When I got out of my car, the radio in the other car was cranked. "Promiscuous Girl" was playing. The girl then shook her butt in a little dance. Took me by surprise. I shoulda said "nice moves" or something but instead I just went inside. :/
EDIT: Just finished watching "Vanilla Sky"
It's crazy, whenever I watch movies like it ( "A Beautiful Mind" is another one) I begin to think I'm crazy or schizo (especially with regards to that incident at the convenience store today. Too perfect and synergistic, no?).
Ah the joys of using subs.
EDIT 2: Reading more of "Influence". It's talking about hazing rituals/initiations. Apparently all efforts to stop them or change them into things less dangerous have been violently resisted. And, apparently, people who are in charge of them were tested psychologically and found to be healthier than the average student.
The idea put forth by the author on the purpose of these rituals is this: "Persons who go through a great deal of of trouble or pain to attain something tend to value it more highly than persons who attain the same thing with a minimum of effort"
RE: SargeMaximus: I Feel It Coming, Part II [DMSI 3.1 A Invalid Tester] - SargeMaximus - 09-28-2017
Had a dream last night where I was doing D2D and got an app in typical Sarge fashion.
I had to return to the house for some reason and the woman's kids and husband were there. Despite that, I took opportunities to bump into her in a dominant way but she never let on to others what was happening.
Then the dream changed and Shannon was in a city relatively close to mine. I was gonna contact him and see if he wanted to meet up.
RE: SargeMaximus: I Feel It Coming, Part II [DMSI 3.1 A Invalid Tester] - SargeMaximus - 09-28-2017
2 Specks (Tip of Sample Stick) Dirty Primitive. One speck right side of belly above the belt, 2nd speck applied to left side of belly above belt.
Great day to test it. Had an appointment to do some tests (nothing serious gents) and had a cute nurse working with me.
She was very talkative but kind of lazy in her speech. Came across as a girl who just wants to lay around all day and have sex. Even tho she was a nurse.
A few things stood out to me about the whole thing. For better or for worse:
- No dilated pupils
- No touchy-feely
- Didn't laugh too much. was super chill
- Talked about how she likes snakes
- Talked about how most people "wimp out" in the test I ran
- Said she likes being a nurse to support people and have good relationships with the patients
- Despite that she just said "it was nice to meet you" when I weas leaving and didn't seem interested in me
- No hair flipping or anything like that
- Wrist expose yes, and hands in crotch with tightly crossed legs at one point, tho
- All my jokes seemed to fall flat with her
So overall she didn't seem interested. Meanwhile, I had many sexual thoughts about her.
In sales, got an appointment super easy. Was so easy I question whether it's a good one or not. But I remember when I was first starting how I could get apps so easily and never trusted them but they turned out good. My first comission was from such an appointment. I thought there was no way in hell this person wanted my product and was just setting it to not be confrontational. But they bought. Lesson learnt.
Anyhow, then I went to buy a book.
The guy at the counter seemed nice at first. He asked me if I wanted a bag. I said "Yeah" as I was using the card machine.
He didn't do anything except read the back of the book!
Thinking he was a fan of the author, I just asked "Have you read the book?"
He goes "No... but I have seen some of his videos... he's weird..."
I'm a HUGE fan of this guy. This guy's techniques are what helped me get so good in sales lol. But instead of freak out I just say "Oh? Is he weird?"
the guy's like "Yeah... he's got a weird energy about him...." then he hands me the book with no bag!
So I take it, and say "Fair enough. Take care [name]" and leave.
Now that I've had time to process it, I've decided I'll be going back later today to talk to the manager about the behavior, and return the book. I'll give another store my money. One that knows how to treat customers.
EDIT: I should mention that before going into the test with that nurse, I was making ALL the female staff laugh like crazy. I was a superstar. Even after the test, talked to more females and they all responded positively to me. The nurse I liked, however, was different.
RE: SargeMaximus: I Feel It Coming, Part II [DMSI 3.1 A Invalid Tester] - SargeMaximus - 09-28-2017
So decided against going back to that store and talking to the manager. Also decided against returning the book.
Mostly because it's a waste of time. It's also not my job to correct every little whipper-snapper, and I sure as hell don't want to be "that guy".
Additionally, if anything was to be done, I should have done it on the spot.
So instead I'm enjoying reading the book. It's fantastic.
I recommends Shannon also read IT for DMSI ideas.
Just substitute selling a product with selling yourself. It'll work, I know it.
Seriously, this guy (and the system he lays out in this book) is the SOLE REASON I've done so well in sales.
Even not doing so well this year is because I'm no doubt not following ALL of the aspects of it.
So this is exciting. I'm going to try and read the whole book tonight. It's pretty long tho, so I doubt thast will happen, but I just need to get back on track, and this is the way.
I also wonder if DMSI is "failing" for some of us because it's not focused enough. I know that's been brought up before but what if it's true?
Again, read this book, follow the system, get paid (laid?).
"Way of the Wolf" - Jordan Belfort
RE: SargeMaximus: I Feel It Coming, Part II [DMSI 3.1 A Invalid Tester] - SargeMaximus - 09-28-2017
Just came back from the gym. Nothing substantial.
I'm pretty sure the one girl hjas been sniped. She's always around and looks at me a few times each time I go there. She's smiled at me before and held a door open for me.
I'm leaving her to do the seducing for many reasons. Mostly for DMSI purposes, but also because while she's VERY cute (8/10 body, 9/10 face), she has small boobs, which is a deal breaker in a lot of ways for me.
But, of course, if she made the effort and won me over with her personality, I'd lose the superficiality. Just being honest with where I'm at with her for now.
Although, interestingly, that fit girl who I really liked had small boobs too, but her insane hardbody more than made up for it. So it depends. Whatever. Who even knows.
There was an asian hard body doing squats next to me giving butt displays continuiously, which I liked. Wasn't in a social mood tho.
reading this book has me re-thinking a lot of things again as it's all very metaphysical "where do you fit in as a human being" kind of shit.