(07-26-2013, 04:17 PM)ohmygee Wrote: I was keeping the examples very simple, without going into too much detail. Quality of life is basically the same with both guys, so no Guy 2 doesn't have his shit together more-so then Guy 1. Guy 1 has improved himself. Maybe you're making the assumption Guy 1 hasn't improved himself because he didn't run AM5? Either way I assure you both are very similar people is relation to the quality of their life.

I'm not sure why you think Guy 1 is manipulating girls. Going into an interaction, introducing himself, and leaving shortly after is NOT manipulation.
From my understanding, he thinks it leaves the thought of him lingering in the girls head[...]

(07-26-2013, 04:17 PM)ohmygee Wrote: I think the results are entirely because of WM2. I think its a better program because of what Guy 2 has told me about how he felt during WM2. Guy 2 in the beginning said that in WM2 stage 2 he didn't think the program was working, and was going to quit subs all together. Then once I talked to him again at the beginning of stage 6, he told me everything changed, more success with women, social freedom, ect. Told me I had to use this sub (thats why I bought it).

(07-26-2013, 04:17 PM)ohmygee Wrote: Before WM2 Guy 2 was pretty average mentally. Average success with girls, mild-anxiety when approaching. Things apparently just "clicked" for him. Again, its hard to pin-point every detail as I dont know. Just assume his mentality towards dating and sex were just above average.

(07-28-2013, 09:07 PM)ohmygee Wrote:

(07-27-2013, 07:47 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Explain that to me. How is trying to get her thinking about him not an act of "manipulation"? To me, it's like he doesn't trust that she will be thinking about him so he has to DO something to MAKE her think about him. Manipulation.

Because its simply not, you don't know what you're talking about. You have no idea the f'd up, needy, pathetic shit guys will say to girls just to get their dick wet, and I have no intention of embellishing. I've read girls texts that show me, and I like to watch how guys hit on my girl at venue's to see how good their game is when I'm not standing right beside her. But most guys run sub-par game, thats when I intervene and shut the down. They always look pissed when I do so, my ego approves.

Also I never said he's trying to get her to think about him. I believe he basis this thinking off results that I've gotten in the past when I first started hitting clubs. I would go in to an interaction, spin the girl to gauge interest, and bounce... I didn't know what to do after that, I was new. If I ever saw the girl again, and she was given me eye contact. I'd go back and actually talk with her by inviting her outside.

I said its just mental masturbation thinking, because in simplest terms "game" is based off of attraction and being sexually available. Clubs are perfect because imo you find out if a girl is interested in you really FAST.

Side Note: Guy 1 just told me today that another girl approached him last night at a club that resulted in sex.

(03-23-2014, 07:05 PM)Joronda Wrote: My boyfriend doesn't post on this thread, Sarge. I have 5-8 wild rabbits that play in my large rose garden which I manifested in a few weeks. I could shoot the rabbits and make a pie, or I can let them play and watch them having fun together. I have decided there is enough room for all of us.