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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - RTBoss - 12-02-2015 We all have data stored in our brains that tells us what our expectations are for our lives, and our current relationship with that data as to where we have to go/what we have to do to get there. Our belief in our ability to have/do/achieve these things is directly related to our self esteem, which is a culmination of our self efficacy with each specific skill or ability. Therefore, the more we can be programmed to enjoy the journey of improving our skills necessary to manifest that data as our experience of reality, the more self-esteem or confidence it should generate, whatever that end goal or experience may be. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - maxx55 - 12-02-2015 (12-02-2015, 03:08 AM)Hercules Wrote:(12-01-2015, 10:22 PM)Shannon Wrote:I Think I know what those are.(12-01-2015, 08:56 PM)maxx55 Wrote: Thanks for the quick responses Shannon! Just two more things! I totally agree with you. If you feel like you have the right to live and fully express yourself, no holding back, in any and all circumstances then as a result you have confidence and self esteem and validation. And fear would be impossible. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 12-02-2015 The generation of those states must be approached in a polymorphic manner. In other words, it must dynamically adjust itself to the unique states and needs of the user. That will be part of what the Optimus Engine is aimed at doing. That will capture all commonalities plus all peripheral unique requirements. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 12-02-2015 (12-01-2015, 10:25 PM)yeah! Wrote: Whats important about "release" and "let go of"? A lot of people are actually afraid of not being afraid. You can see this in the people who argue that fear is good, fear is useful, fear is helpful, fear keeps us safe, moral, ethical, etc. This can be true at a conscious and/or subconscious level. It is frequently true that the people who rely on fear to feel safe are holding onto it emotionally as if it is a life preserver. It is not only seen as a safety mechanism, but it is the "devil you know", and not the scary unknown. It also gets to be a simple rote habit. To get past fear, we need to be in some cases convinced to literally stop holding onto fear. Thus phrasing like "let go of" and "release" fear are useful. But "release" can have multiple meanings, and some of those can result, when taken literally (as the subconscious does) in some undesired results. That's why I have to be careful and creative with wording, and why you guys pay me to get it right when it's subtle and complex like that. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - lokko - 12-02-2015 Off topic - I see that there are some people in this forum that request certain subs and when Shannon creates them those people don't even use them. Then they go requesting more subs to be created. How better would our community be if people were more decisive about the sub they wanted, and then actually pay and use what they requested so that Shannon can happily create more subs. Instead of changing their minds and not even going through the subs they requested. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 12-02-2015 (12-02-2015, 01:30 PM)yeah! Wrote: Thanks Shannon In this case, imagine that the word "release" was used carelessly. What can release mean? * To un-grip something. * To orgasm or ejaculate. * To express something. * To expel something. * To stop experiencing something. * To stop caring about something. * To disassociate from something. Now let's imagine that the person using the program has a strong tendency to have an association with fear to their digestive tract, which is common. Some such people become constipated, some experience the runs, and some find themselves sick to their stomach in response to fear. Let's say that the particular subconscious in question interprets that careless use of "release" to mean that the person should release (expel) their bowels (where they respond to fear) whenever they are afraid. That would not be a very good result. It could also result in projectile vomiting whenever one experienced fear, or was trying to express and let go of it. Or it could be associated with orgasm, causing orgasm when afraid, or bringing a wave of terror during orgasm. And finally, it could be associated with the uncontrolled release of the fear and it's associated emotions at unreasonable times, and in unreasonable ways. For instance, uncontrolled hysteria as a sudden reaction. If we do not give the subconscious sufficiently specific and carefully considered and worded instructions - especially as the power levels increase - these are the sorts of things that can happen. It's relatively rare, but it can and does happen that carelessly worded subliminals can "backfire" like this. This is a BIG part of why I so strongly advise that one never use subliminals that are not scripted by a subliminal scripting specialist. Personally, I would not use anything but my own, but that's not to say nobody else does it properly. I just don't know of anyone who does. As for mono speakers, both masked and ultrasonic formats use the same base audio, so they both suffer the same degradation through a mono speaker. I wouldn't use either one if it's possible, but it is equally damaged if you do. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - maxx55 - 12-02-2015 One thing I have experienced. I seem to respond differently to using masked tracks and ultrasonic tracks at different times of the day than just solely listening to ultrasonic. With only ultrasonic, I feel emotionally unstable and depressed. Using masked half of the time and ultrasonic half of the time, I'm feeling WAY better than just ultrasonic. I'm just curious, why could this be possible if it's the same script in the track? RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - dissonance - 12-03-2015 Shannon, I just came up with an idea, and was wondering what you think. Would it be beneficial to have lines in the script that have to do with being more comfortable with the feeling of fear, and the emotion of fear? For example, when I'm feeling fearful, I feel uncomfortable with it, uneasy. Would it be beneficial to program the mind to be comfortable with, be accepting of, be unafraid of the feeling of fear? Or would these sensations/emotions of fear be completely gone from the sub, so there would be no u se for such programming? RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shawn - 12-03-2015 (12-02-2015, 08:01 PM)Shannon Wrote: As for mono speakers, both masked and ultrasonic formats use the same base audio, so they both suffer the same degradation through a mono speaker. I wouldn't use either one if it's possible, but it is equally damaged if you do. Here is a question. An iPhone has only one speaker which means it's mono. But I noticed the iPhone mixes both channels of a stereo file into that one speaker. I also tested it with a self created short stereo file. I could definitely hear both channels. So would it be sufficient to use an iPhone in this case? RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - AriGold - 12-03-2015 Hm. I thought we were in Shannon's Journal Discussion. Now it looks like the "everyone ask their questions in this thread, so nobody else will ever find the answer again" thread. Back to topic: Shannon, since you will put state shifting into OF, do you think other programs could benefit from it to? Like creative programs "writers subliminal" or "famous musician" to get into a creative state? I mean, it might open a lot of doors, I cannot think of many other purposes, but these guys here are frickin creative and helpful, so you don't have to come up with all the ideas, you just have to get them focused upon the goal. Also, does OF just get rid of fear or every time replace it with something positive? RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 12-03-2015 (12-02-2015, 09:13 PM)maxx55 Wrote: One thing I have experienced. I seem to respond differently to using masked tracks and ultrasonic tracks at different times of the day than just solely listening to ultrasonic. With only ultrasonic, I feel emotionally unstable and depressed. Using masked half of the time and ultrasonic half of the time, I'm feeling WAY better than just ultrasonic. That's going to be because they are not affecting the same levels of your subconscious awareness, and for you, a mix of influence is better than just one level. The louder a subliminal is played, the more "consciously" it is perceived, experienced and responded to. Sometimes that is a good thing, as the conscious has the ability to make things happen or not happen very quickly, decisively and powerfully. Other times, it is better to approach from a lower level and allow the information to come up more gently to influence the conscious awareness. That's part of why we offer dual format. It lets you have more control. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 12-03-2015 (12-03-2015, 01:59 AM)dissonance Wrote: Shannon, I just came up with an idea, and was wondering what you think. Would it be beneficial to have lines in the script that have to do with being more comfortable with the feeling of fear, and the emotion of fear? For example, when I'm feeling fearful, I feel uncomfortable with it, uneasy. Would it be beneficial to program the mind to be comfortable with, be accepting of, be unafraid of the feeling of fear? Or would these sensations/emotions of fear be completely gone from the sub, so there would be no u se for such programming? Being uncomfortable is the whole point of fear. Fear is a form of emotional pain, and all types of pain are intended to communicate to you that "something is wrong, something needs attention, we need to do something about this!" Accepting fear would potentially allow one to become even more complacent with being fearful and even more entrenched in a fear rut. I believe it is much better to cause the person to outgrow the level of awareness and experience that results in fear in the first place. For example, when I was a little boy, I was deathly afraid of the dark. What existed in the dark, you see, was unknown; it could be ANYTHING! Werewolves, vampires, skeletons, mummies, blobs of goo and any other imaginable form of monster that was going to "get" me. I didn't really know what would happen if it "got" me, but I also wasn't about to find out, either! Monsters were not going to get me! So I slept with a night light for a number of years. But eventually, I realized that no matter how long I turned off the light for, nothing showed up. No monsters. It was just me. And when I realized that logically, there is no way a monster can simply materialize out of thin air just because the light is turned off, I outgrew that fear because I understood sufficiently to do so. That's the goal. Grow out of the fear by outgrowing it's root cause, and by educating the person in the right ways that fear evaporates as a natural response and consequence. Like my fear of the dark evaporated when I understood that the laws of physics do not allow for spontaneous materialization of "monsters" when photons are not present above a certain threshold. Knowledge and understanding, and frequently experience is the root cause for those two, erases fear as a natural consequence. What we are knowledgeable about, aware of and familiar with we do not fear. And in cases where that is not the case - such as being afraid of the pain of being punished by one's father as punishment, we can simply transfer that to the conscious mind and realize that "If I obey my father, he won't punish me." It's primarily about growth, education and familiarization. Not making fear more comfortable to deal with. We want to outgrow the root causes and tus eliminate fear completely. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 12-03-2015 (12-03-2015, 08:18 AM)Mr. Anderson Wrote:(12-02-2015, 08:01 PM)Shannon Wrote: As for mono speakers, both masked and ultrasonic formats use the same base audio, so they both suffer the same degradation through a mono speaker. I wouldn't use either one if it's possible, but it is equally damaged if you do. Mixing a left and right channel into a single channel is mono. One channel results. Left and right no longer exist. When both channels have very similar data it would be sufficient. But in this case, I use each channel as an exclusive transport for information, such that when the brain is presented with both channels, it is forced to use both hemispheres to make sense of the information. That results in a much more powerful subliminal, at the expense of having to use two channels. As a safety and backup, the information is eventually repeated in both channels such that even with a mono speaker it will work, but that is why it only gives about 45% of the full possible effect when you use mono instead of stereo. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 12-03-2015 (12-03-2015, 10:38 AM)AriGold Wrote: Hm. I thought we were in Shannon's Journal Discussion. Now it looks like the "everyone ask their questions in this thread, so nobody else will ever find the answer again" thread. I believe that state shifting is almost universally useful. I'm not necessarily sure how extensively I am going to be using it in 5G, but it will be a standard in 6G format. OF is designed to cause you to outgrow the root cause of fear, and become knowledgeable and aware of the thing you feared such that fear is no longer possible. Fear naturally evaporates as we become more and more familiar with, aware of and educated on a thing. It is also designed to replace fear with positives. |