(01-15-2019, 04:29 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote: https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Men-s-Journals-Shannon-s-Journal-Volume-2-?pid=214124#pid214124

Shannon Wrote:Just finished up what I believe to be the final revision of FRM 4.4. So unless something comes to me before I start building tomorrow, or something unexpectedly delays me... I will be building DMSI 3.3.1-D starting tomorrow.

(01-15-2019, 10:24 PM)guyinlahore Wrote: Hi Shannon

I am currently listening to USLM3 and also updating my journal. I was not clear if I should post my question here or on some other thread.

One of my goal on the sub is to go on a foreign training. I know that when we listen to the sub we should not listen to any other thing or sub.
I was wondering that for my goal
1. Can I visualize that goal with my eyes closed and in a relaxed state ?

Quote:2. Can I use radionics for that goal ?

For radionics there are various software. You enter your desire / wish, choose the target, visualize for a second and start the software. Thats it.

(01-16-2019, 05:23 AM)ncbeareatingman Wrote:

(01-15-2019, 12:45 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(01-15-2019, 10:22 AM)Williamx25 Wrote: @Shannon

Great work!

Let me know when you have updated DMSI, I will get back on DMSI to test things out.

I have delayed the build by a day to work on adding another concept that came to me while I was sleeping last night. This should make the FRM 4.4 a lot more feature complete. It should be finished being developed and added by this evening, or tomorrow morning. Then 3.3.1 begins build.

Thats sooo cool Shannon!! I honestly wouldnt care of it took another two weeks to build or what have you,because I Know that FRM 4.4 will be up to hyper speed,jacked up n' ready to go...man this stuff is gonna da bomb!! super dooper Gary Copper!! Keith.

(01-16-2019, 07:51 AM)Tigerismyspirit Wrote: I wanted to let you know something. Yesterday while I was at the post office, I saw this very gorgeous young girl walk in through the door. I was blown away by her cuteness. I wanted to approach her really bad. I was writing the addresses on the envelope and she was done by then was walking out. I wanted to approach her as she walking by and there was nobody around. So, it was a perfect opportunity. But seeing her face I thought she was too young and I shut down and didn't utter a word. This not only happened to her but happens when I see a girl that is quite younger than I am. My subconscious makes irrational logic that I'm too old. The truth is I do want young girls. I like their playfulness and immaturity. I had a lot of fun with them in my PUA days and they are always down for adventures. I don't know how to get past this at this moment.

(01-16-2019, 09:30 AM)dissonance Wrote:

(01-15-2019, 04:29 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote: https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Men-s-Journals-Shannon-s-Journal-Volume-2-?pid=214124#pid214124

Shannon Wrote:Just finished up what I believe to be the final revision of FRM 4.4. So unless something comes to me before I start building tomorrow, or something unexpectedly delays me... I will be building DMSI 3.3.1-D starting tomorrow.

I'm surprised your post got only one response and only got one like (mine) LOL. Did people glaze over this? Am I (besides 4Kingdoms) the only one stoked?? Anyways, status update on 3.3.1-D progress, Shannon?

(01-16-2019, 11:45 AM)Shawn Wrote: A quick question here. We are not supposed to manifest sex/relationships mit specific persons or have them as goal in USLM as it would take away their free will. But if someone find an person interesting for a relationship, could you try something like "I want the best possible relationship with X" and see what kind of relationship - if any - the universe delivers. Would it be safe to word it the way to prevent taking away their free will? Or do you have an idea how one can word it? The thought is just to manifest that kind of relationship with a person which would be possible without taking away their free will - or no relationship if that's not possible.

(01-16-2019, 11:50 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(01-16-2019, 11:45 AM)Shawn Wrote: A quick question here. We are not supposed to manifest sex/relationships mit specific persons or have them as goal in USLM as it would take away their free will. But if someone find an person interesting for a relationship, could you try something like "I want the best possible relationship with X" and see what kind of relationship - if any - the universe delivers. Would it be safe to word it the way to prevent taking away their free will? Or do you have an idea how one can word it? The thought is just to manifest that kind of relationship with a person which would be possible without taking away their free will - or no relationship if that's not possible.

If you were to use that wording - "My goal is to have the best possible relationship with X." - then you are not specifying what type of relationship; only that it be the best it can be.

So if X has no romantic or sexual feelings for you, such a request would result in a great friendship, most likely. You are leaving the type of relationship up to X and the universe. It doesn't interfere with that person's free will or life or karma, because the best possible relationship is going to fit whatever "is" for that person and for you. There is no influencing of or taking away freedom of will or freedom of choice.

(01-16-2019, 11:50 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(01-16-2019, 11:45 AM)Shawn Wrote: A quick question here. We are not supposed to manifest sex/relationships mit specific persons or have them as goal in USLM as it would take away their free will. But if someone find an person interesting for a relationship, could you try something like "I want the best possible relationship with X" and see what kind of relationship - if any - the universe delivers. Would it be safe to word it the way to prevent taking away their free will? Or do you have an idea how one can word it? The thought is just to manifest that kind of relationship with a person which would be possible without taking away their free will - or no relationship if that's not possible.

If you were to use that wording - "My goal is to have the best possible relationship with X." - then you are not specifying what type of relationship; only that it be the best it can be.

So if X has no romantic or sexual feelings for you, such a request would result in a great friendship, most likely. You are leaving the type of relationship up to X and the universe. It doesn't interfere with that person's free will or life or karma, because the best possible relationship is going to fit whatever "is" for that person and for you. There is no influencing of or taking away freedom of will or freedom of choice.

(01-16-2019, 01:46 PM)rayrocanaldo Wrote:

(01-16-2019, 11:50 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(01-16-2019, 11:45 AM)Shawn Wrote: A quick question here. We are not supposed to manifest sex/relationships mit specific persons or have them as goal in USLM as it would take away their free will. But if someone find an person interesting for a relationship, could you try something like "I want the best possible relationship with X" and see what kind of relationship - if any - the universe delivers. Would it be safe to word it the way to prevent taking away their free will? Or do you have an idea how one can word it? The thought is just to manifest that kind of relationship with a person which would be possible without taking away their free will - or no relationship if that's not possible.

If you were to use that wording - "My goal is to have the best possible relationship with X." - then you are not specifying what type of relationship; only that it be the best it can be.

So if X has no romantic or sexual feelings for you, such a request would result in a great friendship, most likely. You are leaving the type of relationship up to X and the universe. It doesn't interfere with that person's free will or life or karma, because the best possible relationship is going to fit whatever "is" for that person and for you. There is no influencing of or taking away freedom of will or freedom of choice.

How can people rape, kill, injure, wound, steal from, hurt( physically), destroy, make sick, enslave, betray, gossip about, etc...people and yet be alive and well. The person has interfered with their victim's will by killing, enslaving, injuring, etc...them. They did in a very real way. Its realer than a thought. A thought is only as real as it is manifested.
It's MUCH worse to do something like this on a physical level than to send someone ( consciously) your desire for friendship or sex or believe a specific person loves you.

(01-16-2019, 02:16 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(01-16-2019, 01:46 PM)rayrocanaldo Wrote:

(01-16-2019, 11:50 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(01-16-2019, 11:45 AM)Shawn Wrote: A quick question here. We are not supposed to manifest sex/relationships mit specific persons or have them as goal in USLM as it would take away their free will. But if someone find an person interesting for a relationship, could you try something like "I want the best possible relationship with X" and see what kind of relationship - if any - the universe delivers. Would it be safe to word it the way to prevent taking away their free will? Or do you have an idea how one can word it? The thought is just to manifest that kind of relationship with a person which would be possible without taking away their free will - or no relationship if that's not possible.

If you were to use that wording - "My goal is to have the best possible relationship with X." - then you are not specifying what type of relationship; only that it be the best it can be.

So if X has no romantic or sexual feelings for you, such a request would result in a great friendship, most likely. You are leaving the type of relationship up to X and the universe. It doesn't interfere with that person's free will or life or karma, because the best possible relationship is going to fit whatever "is" for that person and for you. There is no influencing of or taking away freedom of will or freedom of choice.

How can people rape, kill, injure, wound, steal from, hurt( physically), destroy, make sick, enslave, betray, gossip about, etc...people and yet be alive and well. The person has interfered with their victim's will by killing, enslaving, injuring, etc...them. They did in a very real way. Its realer than a thought. A thought is only as real as it is manifested.
It's MUCH worse to do something like this on a physical level than to send someone ( consciously) your desire for friendship or sex or believe a specific person loves you.

Which is worse, Ray? Stabbing someone with a knife, or stabbing them with your words? Most people would assume a knife is worse, but given the right words, the right delivery and the right pair of participants, words can do as much or more damage.

Thoughts are not "only as real as manifested", and in fact that is self evident by virtue of the fact that were that thought "not real" until it was manifest, it could not manifest!

Furthermore, thought alone isn't what we are talking about here. Thought alone isn't effective for manifestation, it requires other factors as well. And just because the damage done is not physical or obvious does not mean it was not done, not damage, not relevant or without consequences.

I know people who get away with violence against others all the time because they are committing mental and emotional violence. The common person does not recognize those things as existing, and has no real idea what damage they do. But if they did no damage, do you suppose that I would have a job?

Just because it's not obvious doesn't mean it's not there.

(01-16-2019, 04:44 PM)rayrocanaldo Wrote:

(01-16-2019, 02:16 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(01-16-2019, 01:46 PM)rayrocanaldo Wrote:

(01-16-2019, 11:50 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(01-16-2019, 11:45 AM)Shawn Wrote: A quick question here. We are not supposed to manifest sex/relationships mit specific persons or have them as goal in USLM as it would take away their free will. But if someone find an person interesting for a relationship, could you try something like "I want the best possible relationship with X" and see what kind of relationship - if any - the universe delivers. Would it be safe to word it the way to prevent taking away their free will? Or do you have an idea how one can word it? The thought is just to manifest that kind of relationship with a person which would be possible without taking away their free will - or no relationship if that's not possible.

If you were to use that wording - "My goal is to have the best possible relationship with X." - then you are not specifying what type of relationship; only that it be the best it can be.

So if X has no romantic or sexual feelings for you, such a request would result in a great friendship, most likely. You are leaving the type of relationship up to X and the universe. It doesn't interfere with that person's free will or life or karma, because the best possible relationship is going to fit whatever "is" for that person and for you. There is no influencing of or taking away freedom of will or freedom of choice.

How can people rape, kill, injure, wound, steal from, hurt( physically), destroy, make sick, enslave, betray, gossip about, etc...people and yet be alive and well. The person has interfered with their victim's will by killing, enslaving, injuring, etc...them. They did in a very real way. Its realer than a thought. A thought is only as real as it is manifested.
It's MUCH worse to do something like this on a physical level than to send someone ( consciously) your desire for friendship or sex or believe a specific person loves you.

Which is worse, Ray? Stabbing someone with a knife, or stabbing them with your words? Most people would assume a knife is worse, but given the right words, the right delivery and the right pair of participants, words can do as much or more damage.

Thoughts are not "only as real as manifested", and in fact that is self evident by virtue of the fact that were that thought "not real" until it was manifest, it could not manifest!

Furthermore, thought alone isn't what we are talking about here. Thought alone isn't effective for manifestation, it requires other factors as well. And just because the damage done is not physical or obvious does not mean it was not done, not damage, not relevant or without consequences.

I know people who get away with violence against others all the time because they are committing mental and emotional violence. The common person does not recognize those things as existing, and has no real idea what damage they do. But if they did no damage, do you suppose that I would have a job?

Just because it's not obvious doesn't mean it's not there.

The law of attraction states that what we think we become. Yet they( coaches, mentors, etc...)give us affirmations to say in front of the mirror, to write down endless affirmations, to keep repeating them during the day, etc...To think means to think. Such as to consider, to make conclusions, to muse about, to ponder, etc...in our minds not verbally. Then the coaches tell us, we must believe we already have what we want. But we got to know what we WANT. By definition, we have to want something yet not want it instead we need to believe it. Ah, the confusion abounds. Then they tell us, we cant take action, we need to wait for inspired action yet they fail to notice people like Thomas edision who failed 1000x before succeeding. The ultimate reason they tell us not to take action is because they think we will fail. So by definition, if we wait for inspired action we will feel amazing letting us know we will succeed. Then they tell us we need to act as if we already have it. But what happens if you want a girlfriend. You have to act like you left her home when you go out because you couldnt possibly act as if you are with your girlfriend at the mall. When you watch tv, you leave a special seat next to you for your girl? If that's too much perhaps you should have body language like you already have a girl. But seriously how many types of body languages exist?
Then they tell us we need to feel like we already got what we want yet we have never experienced it once in our lives.
What happens if your mother comes around and asks you if you have a girlfriend? Are you supposed to say " Of course, I have her. I can feel it, I do." Even the most hardcore law of attraction fan would see there is something wrong in what you are saying.
They say we cannot ask " How", we must always believe it will happen. We cannot want or need something because somehow the universe will not give it to us. We have told to ignore the future. We are told that our negativity is blocking manifestation and to avoid it all cost and that we must clear it all before we can successfully manifest. And there is more...

Now no coach has ever said it like that but that's what it is. Thats the state of affair of the law of attraction community as of 2019.