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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Zeroxmachina - 10-05-2016 (10-05-2016, 02:47 PM)Shannon Wrote:(10-05-2016, 02:35 PM)Zeroxmachina Wrote:(10-05-2016, 01:30 PM)AAA Wrote: Do subliminal have the potency to change/alter genes or the way they respond ? Like how.several researchers have concluded meditation can? This guy Lee pulls designed a course that affected cell level memories, in the course there was a deep trance identification part, I had one listen and it changed me for days before the old patterns creeped back in. True hypnosis, in the sense I meant it, is more like when you are completely focused on a television program and don't notice that your wife is talking to you. This brain state is basically the way people are programmed in general, especially by advertising and such which takes advantage of the 'open door' to ingrain imagery into your subconscious which will affect your buying decisions. I get what you're saying,but I feel like that if the conscious mind was unaware of the subliminals effects, there'd be no active resistance while listening the way a lot of people experience it. The subconscious doesn't make judgments (from what I understand), it simply acts as a recorder for whatever is let in by the conscious and then plays it back, meaning that perhaps the conscious is probably being underestimated in general, in terms of how much it can actually comprehend/filter, I however pay good money on the basis of belief that you've created reliable tools for overwhelming those capabilities. ![]() RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Duke.Togo - 10-05-2016 (10-05-2016, 07:45 PM)Zeroxmachina Wrote:(10-05-2016, 02:47 PM)Shannon Wrote:(10-05-2016, 02:35 PM)Zeroxmachina Wrote:(10-05-2016, 01:30 PM)AAA Wrote: Do subliminal have the potency to change/alter genes or the way they respond ? Like how.several researchers have concluded meditation can? This guy Lee pulls designed a course that affected cell level memories, in the course there was a deep trance identification part, I had one listen and it changed me for days before the old patterns creeped back in. Wouldn't the state you're referring to here be more of a zoned out phase. And if we are on the topic of advertising, I'm not sure if you are referring to social programming or subliminal advertising. I don't really think either of those states actually qualify as hypnotic states. Maybe trance like, but not hypnotic. And actually, the subs are designed to bypass resistance because you are not actively aware of what is said in the script. It bypasses your conscious barrier anyway. Which is why the subs are much more effective than hypnosis. We're at the same goal post, but I just wanted to understand the hypnosis portion of what you were stating, only because it actually interests me how we observe and are influenced by other factors. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 10-06-2016 (10-05-2016, 05:35 PM)Steven Wrote: Shannon, Luck finds those who prepare. It will not be luck, my friend. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 10-06-2016 (10-05-2016, 07:45 PM)Zeroxmachina Wrote:(10-05-2016, 02:47 PM)Shannon Wrote:(10-05-2016, 02:35 PM)Zeroxmachina Wrote:(10-05-2016, 01:30 PM)AAA Wrote: Do subliminal have the potency to change/alter genes or the way they respond ? Like how.several researchers have concluded meditation can? This guy Lee pulls designed a course that affected cell level memories, in the course there was a deep trance identification part, I had one listen and it changed me for days before the old patterns creeped back in. All hypnosis is true hypnosis, and all hypnosis is simply a state of awareness in which the conscious mind is relaxed enough for the subconscious to be accessed while the conscious mind is unable to function concerning its critical faculty. Completely focused on a television program is a state of hypnosis just the same as what you can achieve through a hypnotist, or using brainwave entrainment. This brain state is basically the way people are more readily and easily programmed while they are conscious of what is being programmed even if they are only conscious in a relaxed or hyperfocused manner. It actually doesn't take an open door to ingrain imagery into your subconscious, as the subconscious records all five senses from Day 0. However, creating programming for the subconscious must either bypass the conscious mind completely, or bypass it's critical faculty (hypnosis). I have found in my time as a subliminals producer and researcher that the subconscious is quite capable of resisting based on the personality, volume of the subliminal and how much the script conflicts with current subconscious programming, or how much it triggers fear. Quote:The subconscious doesn't make judgments (from what I understand), it simply acts as a recorder for whatever is let in by the conscious and then plays it back, meaning that perhaps the conscious is probably being underestimated in general, in terms of how much it can actually comprehend/filter, I however pay good money on the basis of belief that you've created reliable tools for overwhelming those capabilities. Th subconscious mind, or at least some parts of it, can and do make judgements. It is far more complex and advanced than a simple record and playback machine. The conscious mind's limits and abilities are very well known to me after 24 years of studying it now. I started in 1992. I can assure you, no mistake has been made as to the limits and capabilities of the conscious vs the subconscious in what you are referring to. I bypass it, and I get it to cooperate, but I don't overwhelm it. You wouldn't be able to function if I was doing that. It is extremely limited. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 10-06-2016 (10-05-2016, 08:07 PM)Duke.Togo Wrote:(10-05-2016, 07:45 PM)Zeroxmachina Wrote:(10-05-2016, 02:47 PM)Shannon Wrote:(10-05-2016, 02:35 PM)Zeroxmachina Wrote:(10-05-2016, 01:30 PM)AAA Wrote: Do subliminal have the potency to change/alter genes or the way they respond ? Like how.several researchers have concluded meditation can? This guy Lee pulls designed a course that affected cell level memories, in the course there was a deep trance identification part, I had one listen and it changed me for days before the old patterns creeped back in. It is a state of hypnosis. Quote:And if we are on the topic of advertising, I'm not sure if you are referring to social programming or subliminal advertising. They do qualify as hypnotic states. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 10-06-2016 (10-06-2016, 04:00 AM)Jackson Chandra Wrote: Hey Shannon, I have far too little information at the moment to even formulate an educated guess. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Duke.Togo - 10-06-2016 (10-06-2016, 04:18 AM)Shannon Wrote:(10-05-2016, 08:07 PM)Duke.Togo Wrote:(10-05-2016, 07:45 PM)Zeroxmachina Wrote:(10-05-2016, 02:47 PM)Shannon Wrote:(10-05-2016, 02:35 PM)Zeroxmachina Wrote: The secret to every man's success or failure is whether or not suggestions are able to implant in the subconscious. I personally have a theory that our conscious minds can filter out almost 100% of the suggestions we receive,even below the threshhold of awareness/hearing(which don't coincide with our current beliefs), so the critical part is really when we are in alpha or theta and it isn't as active. A book I read suggests that Delta is actually not optimal as the suggestions will not be held onto. I stand corrected. I was under the impression that these were not considered hypnotic states. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 10-06-2016 Daydreaming is a hypnotic state. Getting lost in a good book, movie or game... falling asleep and waking up... dreaming... spacing out while driving... all hypnotic states. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - robstar - 10-06-2016 (10-05-2016, 09:34 AM)Shannon Wrote:(10-05-2016, 08:16 AM)Steven Wrote: "Almost finished calculating the final optimizations for MIR2. I should be able to build it either tonight or tomorrow. But it is going to go through testing before I release it into the wild. " Man I would give my left nut to see 6 month programs become 6 week programs. Surely that's possible in the future with 6G? I mean dsmi seems to work remarkably faster than 5G, and it's not even nearly full 6G yet. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Blacksheep - 10-06-2016 Where did Shannon announce the surprise to v2.4 (p3)? I missed it, and the search function didn't help me! RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 10-06-2016 (10-06-2016, 09:00 AM)robstar Wrote:(10-05-2016, 09:34 AM)Shannon Wrote:(10-05-2016, 08:16 AM)Steven Wrote: "Almost finished calculating the final optimizations for MIR2. I should be able to build it either tonight or tomorrow. But it is going to go through testing before I release it into the wild. " It seems possible, but we have to finish developing 6G, extracting the relevant methods and then modeling and testing it to see. It may be that you get much better results with fewer hours per day, but just as many days per stage, or maybe 6 weeks total will be better. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shawn - 10-06-2016 Shannon Wrote:Almost finished calculating the final optimizations for MIR2. I should be able to build it either tonight or tomorrow. But it is going to go through testing before I release it into the wild. So I guess public release is not that soon? Just asking because I am starting to feel like getting a cold. However, still have MIR1 here. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 10-06-2016 MIR2 needs testing first. I don't know if that will be a few days, a week, a month, a few months... So fire up MIR1. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Asanti - 10-06-2016 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37571685 Gush, never been through a hurricane myself - GOOD LUCK, Shannon! Fingers crossed in Poland |