(11-23-2018, 05:36 AM)ichigo Wrote: Shannon, you’ve spoken about receiving pussy/butt presentations from women previously. Have you been able to identify what causes women to want to give presentations, and if so, anything the user can do to encourage them? Thanks, and looking forward to 3.3

(11-23-2018, 05:44 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(11-23-2018, 05:36 AM)ichigo Wrote: Shannon, you’ve spoken about receiving pussy/butt presentations from women previously. Have you been able to identify what causes women to want to give presentations, and if so, anything the user can do to encourage them? Thanks, and looking forward to 3.3

I miss those. I still get them but theyre always very likely coincidences than purposefully presenting. And lately, not by attractive girls.

(11-23-2018, 05:51 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(11-23-2018, 05:44 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(11-23-2018, 05:36 AM)ichigo Wrote: Shannon, you’ve spoken about receiving pussy/butt presentations from women previously. Have you been able to identify what causes women to want to give presentations, and if so, anything the user can do to encourage them? Thanks, and looking forward to 3.3

I miss those. I still get them but theyre always very likely coincidences than purposefully presenting. And lately, not by attractive girls.

You can't get them and have them be coincidences. They are never coincidences. A woman who is presenting is doing so on purpose, even if only at the subconscious level. You may need to work on knowing when it is and is not a presentation.

(11-23-2018, 05:57 AM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: Shannon you 'spoke' of having a different version of DSMI, down the road,as in DMSI + Romance..ala a romance version of DSMI ,'er something to this effect,no?

(11-23-2018, 06:07 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(11-23-2018, 05:51 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(11-23-2018, 05:44 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(11-23-2018, 05:36 AM)ichigo Wrote: Shannon, you’ve spoken about receiving pussy/butt presentations from women previously. Have you been able to identify what causes women to want to give presentations, and if so, anything the user can do to encourage them? Thanks, and looking forward to 3.3

I miss those. I still get them but theyre always very likely coincidences than purposefully presenting. And lately, not by attractive girls.

You can't get them and have them be coincidences. They are never coincidences. A woman who is presenting is doing so on purpose, even if only at the subconscious level. You may need to work on knowing when it is and is not a presentation.

Yeah like, when a girl is doing yard work and bends over, I assume that’s a coincidence. Or at the bar a woman grabbing something next to me on the bottom shelf. If those are coincidences then I haven’t had a legit butt presentation for many moons.

(11-22-2018, 08:09 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(11-22-2018, 01:09 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(11-22-2018, 12:57 PM)Paul1131 Wrote:

(11-22-2018, 11:10 AM)Shawn Wrote: Regarding FRM: In the past I have known people who were so depressed that they wanted to commit suicide. The only thing what prevented them of doing it was fear. So literally fear was the only thing why they still were alive. Is there something in the module to handle such situations?

Regarding the anti-hooker-module in DMSI: I don't know how this is worded, but if it prevents paying for sex it could prevent pretty much every sex, because no matter if you pay directly for a hooker or meet someone for a date and hope for sex you still pay for it. So in that certain view it would apply to 100% of women and therefore could have negative effects because in some way you always pay for it.

This is somewhat of an assumption, but I assume FRM only gets rid of irrational fears. I would think you would still be afraid of things that could actually kill you immediately, and that would include killing yourself.

Only Shannon can answer that, but as far as the “pay for sex loophole”, I hope that gets seriously addressed because he’s right, one way or another you pay for sex.

There is no "pay for sex loophole".

(11-23-2018, 06:18 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(11-22-2018, 08:09 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(11-22-2018, 01:09 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(11-22-2018, 12:57 PM)Paul1131 Wrote:

(11-22-2018, 11:10 AM)Shawn Wrote: Regarding FRM: In the past I have known people who were so depressed that they wanted to commit suicide. The only thing what prevented them of doing it was fear. So literally fear was the only thing why they still were alive. Is there something in the module to handle such situations?

Regarding the anti-hooker-module in DMSI: I don't know how this is worded, but if it prevents paying for sex it could prevent pretty much every sex, because no matter if you pay directly for a hooker or meet someone for a date and hope for sex you still pay for it. So in that certain view it would apply to 100% of women and therefore could have negative effects because in some way you always pay for it.

This is somewhat of an assumption, but I assume FRM only gets rid of irrational fears. I would think you would still be afraid of things that could actually kill you immediately, and that would include killing yourself.

Only Shannon can answer that, but as far as the “pay for sex loophole”, I hope that gets seriously addressed because he’s right, one way or another you pay for sex.

There is no "pay for sex loophole".

In that case, how are you going to ensure users don’t pay a hooker for sex but still pay for drinks on a regular date? To me that seems like one and the same thing and I’m sure the subc could interpret paying for drinks in hopes of getting laid as paying for sex.

(11-23-2018, 07:03 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(11-23-2018, 06:18 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(11-22-2018, 08:09 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(11-22-2018, 01:09 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(11-22-2018, 12:57 PM)Paul1131 Wrote: This is somewhat of an assumption, but I assume FRM only gets rid of irrational fears. I would think you would still be afraid of things that could actually kill you immediately, and that would include killing yourself.

Only Shannon can answer that, but as far as the “pay for sex loophole”, I hope that gets seriously addressed because he’s right, one way or another you pay for sex.

There is no "pay for sex loophole".

In that case, how are you going to ensure users don’t pay a hooker for sex but still pay for drinks on a regular date? To me that seems like one and the same thing and I’m sure the subc could interpret paying for drinks in hopes of getting laid as paying for sex.

Is paying for drinks on a regular date sabotaging DMSI to avoid executing it and/or achieving the end goal? A big part of your problem, Sarge, is that you generalize too much with what you believe. You take the "paying for sex" thing too seriously and too literally.

Going out on a date, if your goal is sex, then you will do what is necessary to get to sex. If that means playing into her desires to be wined and dined, then most guys will do that. But in the real world, women aren't just vaginas on legs, and no relationship of any kind is "free". You have to "pay" for friendship, you have to "pay" for love, you have to "pay for sex", you even have to "pay" to masturbate. You're just paying in different ways, and with different things.

Friendship costs time, energy, effort and patience. Sometimes money. Same with love. You wouldn't believe how many hours I have spent taking care of loved ones, both familial and romantic. Sex costs in achieving the state of being who she wants to have sex with (hygiene, gym, socializing, condoms, lube, car, job, fun, etc.), and masturbation requires time, effort, energy, privacy, and for most guys these days, an internet connection and a phone or computer.

DMSI is aimed at preventing you from sabotaging DMSI's goals by wasting time in fantasy, doing useless things, masturbating or ***** a hooker IN ORDER TO PREVENT YOURSELF FROM ACHIEVING THE GOALS OF DMSI. As long as that is not the reason for doing it, or what it will result in, DMSI doesn't care and neither do I.

But you don't deserve a refund on DMSI for buying it and then doing everything in your power to sabotage it, and you don't deserve to blame me for that choice of actions. So my job is to make sure you achieve the goals of DMSI instead of jerking off in a closet because you're scared of real vagina, so I don't have to listen to you guys complain that "DMSI doesn't work" and then have you demand a refund because you chose to jerk off in a closet because you're afraid of real vagina.

Going out on a date and paying for it does not help you sabotage DMSI. On the contrary, it is likely to help you achieve the goals of DMSI. The key here is to prevent self sabotage.

(11-23-2018, 07:11 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(11-23-2018, 07:03 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(11-23-2018, 06:18 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(11-22-2018, 08:09 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(11-22-2018, 01:09 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Only Shannon can answer that, but as far as the “pay for sex loophole”, I hope that gets seriously addressed because he’s right, one way or another you pay for sex.

There is no "pay for sex loophole".

In that case, how are you going to ensure users don’t pay a hooker for sex but still pay for drinks on a regular date? To me that seems like one and the same thing and I’m sure the subc could interpret paying for drinks in hopes of getting laid as paying for sex.

Is paying for drinks on a regular date sabotaging DMSI to avoid executing it and/or achieving the end goal? A big part of your problem, Sarge, is that you generalize too much with what you believe. You take the "paying for sex" thing too seriously and too literally.

Going out on a date, if your goal is sex, then you will do what is necessary to get to sex. If that means playing into her desires to be wined and dined, then most guys will do that. But in the real world, women aren't just vaginas on legs, and no relationship of any kind is "free". You have to "pay" for friendship, you have to "pay" for love, you have to "pay for sex", you even have to "pay" to masturbate. You're just paying in different ways, and with different things.

Friendship costs time, energy, effort and patience. Sometimes money. Same with love. You wouldn't believe how many hours I have spent taking care of loved ones, both familial and romantic. Sex costs in achieving the state of being who she wants to have sex with (hygiene, gym, socializing, condoms, lube, car, job, fun, etc.), and masturbation requires time, effort, energy, privacy, and for most guys these days, an internet connection and a phone or computer.

DMSI is aimed at preventing you from sabotaging DMSI's goals by wasting time in fantasy, doing useless things, masturbating or ***** a hooker IN ORDER TO PREVENT YOURSELF FROM ACHIEVING THE GOALS OF DMSI. As long as that is not the reason for doing it, or what it will result in, DMSI doesn't care and neither do I.

But you don't deserve a refund on DMSI for buying it and then doing everything in your power to sabotage it, and you don't deserve to blame me for that choice of actions. So my job is to make sure you achieve the goals of DMSI instead of jerking off in a closet because you're scared of real vagina, so I don't have to listen to you guys complain that "DMSI doesn't work" and then have you demand a refund because you chose to jerk off in a closet because you're afraid of real vagina.

Going out on a date and paying for it does not help you sabotage DMSI. On the contrary, it is likely to help you achieve the goals of DMSI. The key here is to prevent self sabotage.

A big part of your problem Shannon is you throw these little tantrums and use me as your punching bag. F*ck off, it was a legitimate question. I’ve been on a ton of dates this week, I’m not hiding in a closet masturbating, take that shit out on someone who is. I don’t know why you have such a problem with me aand I don’t care, I deserve respect as a paying customer. I don’t harass or insult you, I expect the same courtesy.

(11-23-2018, 09:11 AM)Sanbosay Wrote: Hello all, it been hella long time since I posted but I have been following what's going on, especially the new and upcoming version of DMSI 3.3. I am sure a lot of us are excited. I just have a very quick question, is alcohol, cigs and marijuana or even caffeine going to interfere with the execution of the new version like the previous versions? Or we have found a way to go around this?

I am sure this question has been asked one way or another, but if anyone could please speed a brother up on what changes are being made/add on 3.3.

Thank you in advance ;-)

(11-22-2018, 08:08 PM)Shannon Wrote:

Quote:Regarding the anti-hooker-module in DMSI: I don't know how this is worded, but if it prevents paying for sex it could prevent pretty much every sex, because no matter if you pay directly for a hooker or meet someone for a date and hope for sex you still pay for it. So in that certain view it would apply to 100% of women and therefore could have negative effects because in some way you always pay for it.

The modules in DMSI designed to prevent you from turning to paid sex are designed to get you to stop using masturbation, edging, porn, tumblr, hookers, and whatever other ways you guys have to prevent yourselves from achieving the goals of DMSI.

It's not about not paying for sex. It's about NOT ESCAPING AND SABOTAGING YOUR OWN ACHIEVEMENT OF THE GOALS OF DMSI.

I don't give a rat's ass if you pay for sex. I do give a rat's ass if you buy a copy of DMSI, run it, and then go hire a hooker/masturbate to bust a nut/edge/lose yourself to/jerk off to fantasies/whatever so you don't have the energy or drive to execute what DMSI is trying to get you to do. Which is what a lot of you guys were doing before I put that in there, and some of you knuckleheads continue doing regardless.

In other words, what matters is that you are not sabotaging your own achievement of the goals because you're afraid of real vagina. Which is what it basically boils down to. That is the goal of the Wall.

It obviously failed anyway. Which was why I had to keep going, and create the FRM.