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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Paul1131 - 11-22-2018
(11-22-2018, 11:10 AM)Shawn Wrote: Regarding FRM: In the past I have known people who were so depressed that they wanted to commit suicide. The only thing what prevented them of doing it was fear. So literally fear was the only thing why they still were alive. Is there something in the module to handle such situations?
Regarding the anti-hooker-module in DMSI: I don't know how this is worded, but if it prevents paying for sex it could prevent pretty much every sex, because no matter if you pay directly for a hooker or meet someone for a date and hope for sex you still pay for it. So in that certain view it would apply to 100% of women and therefore could have negative effects because in some way you always pay for it.
This is somewhat of an assumption, but I assume FRM only gets rid of irrational fears. I would think you would still be afraid of things that could actually kill you immediately, and that would include killing yourself.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - SargeMaximus - 11-22-2018
(11-22-2018, 12:57 PM)Paul1131 Wrote:(11-22-2018, 11:10 AM)Shawn Wrote: Regarding FRM: In the past I have known people who were so depressed that they wanted to commit suicide. The only thing what prevented them of doing it was fear. So literally fear was the only thing why they still were alive. Is there something in the module to handle such situations?
Regarding the anti-hooker-module in DMSI: I don't know how this is worded, but if it prevents paying for sex it could prevent pretty much every sex, because no matter if you pay directly for a hooker or meet someone for a date and hope for sex you still pay for it. So in that certain view it would apply to 100% of women and therefore could have negative effects because in some way you always pay for it.
This is somewhat of an assumption, but I assume FRM only gets rid of irrational fears. I would think you would still be afraid of things that could actually kill you immediately, and that would include killing yourself.
Only Shannon can answer that, but as far as the “pay for sex loophole”, I hope that gets seriously addressed because he’s right, one way or another you pay for sex.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - wolverine_i_am - 11-22-2018
I think the point of using DMSI is so that you'll get girls attracted to you on their own.
Paying for hookers is sex, but they aren't attracted to you, just doing it for your money.
True attraction is when a girl is so turned on by you that she wants to have sex with you for you. This is the direction I want, and where DMSI is heading at.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Smuggler - 11-22-2018
Wondering if you can help here Shannon. Last Tuesday night I listened to USLM 3. On Wednesday I got a call about a job i've been trying to apply for. It sounds amazing and is a good opportunity for me. The recruiter said they've already got a team in place (New site opening) but could do with someone of my skills. I sent my CV at 11pm that night. Had a phone call on Thursday morning, arranged an interview for today.
In the meantime, it appears my relationship has gone to absolute shit and is pretty much over, it will take a miracle for me to bring this back. Now she said something interesting, telling me how she felt from Wednesday(the day after I first listened) had changed, it's more or less spiralled the whole week. My 2 days off were Sunday and Monday, I haven't listened again, I don't think I will. Is it possible that this is some kind of resistance effect of the sub? Is there anything I can do to halt/reverse it for now?
Also, I had the interview today. I turned up 30 minutes late, still impressed them enough and was offered the job on the spot.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Hatman - 11-22-2018
Shannon, are you familiar with the "call of the void" phenomenon? Many people including myself experience this from time to time. I think that fear may play a part in not answering the call. How would the FRM affect this, especially in titles such as OF?
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shawn - 11-22-2018
(11-22-2018, 12:26 PM)Dilectione Wrote: In my point of view, if fears really kicked in, they would commit suicide, what makes them still alive is their common sense still intact and not sabotaged by fear. In other words, deep inside their will to live is bigger than decision to die, because they still have common sense, they still think like normal people think, not like depressed one.
The bold makes no sense imho, because they didn't fear life, they feared death, or the process of death, I don't know, that's why they didn't commit suicide. And the hopelessness was pretty much the reason why they wanted it.
(11-22-2018, 12:26 PM)Dilectione Wrote: About the anti-hooker-module, it's good in my opinion, because what's the point of using dmsi if you just want a hooker.
First, I believe that if the FRM is done with fears then such modules wouldn't be necessary anymore. But my point was that if there will be such a module in DMSI than it must be scripted in a way that prevents using that as loophole to not execute and only apply for such direct payment for sex as escape from execution. I think Shannon will know how to script it correctly.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - SargeMaximus - 11-22-2018
(11-22-2018, 01:40 PM)Shawn Wrote:(11-22-2018, 12:26 PM)Dilectione Wrote: In my point of view, if fears really kicked in, they would commit suicide, what makes them still alive is their common sense still intact and not sabotaged by fear. In other words, deep inside their will to live is bigger than decision to die, because they still have common sense, they still think like normal people think, not like depressed one.
The bold makes no sense imho, because they didn't fear life, they feared death, or the process of death, I don't know, that's why they didn't commit suicide. And the hopelessness was pretty much the reason why they wanted it.
(11-22-2018, 12:26 PM)Dilectione Wrote: About the anti-hooker-module, it's good in my opinion, because what's the point of using dmsi if you just want a hooker.
First, I believe that if the FRM is done with fears then such modules wouldn't be necessary anymore. But my point was that if there will be such a module in DMSI than it must be scripted in a way that prevents using that as loophole to not execute and only apply for such direct payment for sex as escape from execution. I think Shannon will know how to script it correctly.
Agreed.
OR..........
Haha
Flip the script ENTIRELY so that women pay US for sex!
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Tigerismyspirit - 11-22-2018
(11-22-2018, 02:34 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Flip the script ENTIRELY so that women pay US for sex!
This would be so gold! I could pull myself outta debt and be a gigolo and buy enough subs from Shannon
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - MasterEnki - 11-22-2018
(11-22-2018, 11:10 AM)Shawn Wrote: Regarding FRM: In the past I have known people who were so depressed that they wanted to commit suicide. The only thing what prevented them of doing it was fear. So literally fear was the only thing why they still were alive. Is there something in the module to handle such situations?
Regarding the anti-hooker-module in DMSI: I don't know how this is worded, but if it prevents paying for sex it could prevent pretty much every sex, because no matter if you pay directly for a hooker or meet someone for a date and hope for sex you still pay for it. So in that certain view it would apply to 100% of women and therefore could have negative effects because in some way you always pay for it.
What happens if she buys you dinner / drinks, and/or pays YOU to have sex with her?
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - SargeMaximus - 11-22-2018
(11-22-2018, 02:38 PM)Tigerismyspirit Wrote:(11-22-2018, 02:34 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Flip the script ENTIRELY so that women pay US for sex!
This would be so gold! I could pull myself outta debt and be a gigolo and buy enough subs from Shannon
Haha. Come to think of it, the last 2 dates the women offered to pay for their drinks. Also, I’m pretty sure a girl thought I was a gigolo online once.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - MasterEnki - 11-22-2018
(11-22-2018, 02:38 PM)Tigerismyspirit Wrote:(11-22-2018, 02:34 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Flip the script ENTIRELY so that women pay US for sex!
This would be so gold! I could pull myself outta debt and be a gigolo and buy enough subs from Shannon
Where I live is one of the only states where ‘sex work’ is legal. Possible new future career!
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - MasterEnki - 11-22-2018
(11-22-2018, 02:34 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(11-22-2018, 01:40 PM)Shawn Wrote:(11-22-2018, 12:26 PM)Dilectione Wrote: In my point of view, if fears really kicked in, they would commit suicide, what makes them still alive is their common sense still intact and not sabotaged by fear. In other words, deep inside their will to live is bigger than decision to die, because they still have common sense, they still think like normal people think, not like depressed one.
The bold makes no sense imho, because they didn't fear life, they feared death, or the process of death, I don't know, that's why they didn't commit suicide. And the hopelessness was pretty much the reason why they wanted it.
(11-22-2018, 12:26 PM)Dilectione Wrote: About the anti-hooker-module, it's good in my opinion, because what's the point of using dmsi if you just want a hooker.
First, I believe that if the FRM is done with fears then such modules wouldn't be necessary anymore. But my point was that if there will be such a module in DMSI than it must be scripted in a way that prevents using that as loophole to not execute and only apply for such direct payment for sex as escape from execution. I think Shannon will know how to script it correctly.
Agreed.
OR..........
Haha
Flip the script ENTIRELY so that women pay US for sex!
Become A Successful Gigalo 6G
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Oversoul - 11-22-2018
(11-22-2018, 01:40 PM)Shawn Wrote:(11-22-2018, 12:26 PM)Dilectione Wrote: In my point of view, if fears really kicked in, they would commit suicide, what makes them still alive is their common sense still intact and not sabotaged by fear. In other words, deep inside their will to live is bigger than decision to die, because they still have common sense, they still think like normal people think, not like depressed one.
The bold makes no sense imho, because they didn't fear life, they feared death, or the process of death, I don't know, that's why they didn't commit suicide. And the hopelessness was pretty much the reason why they wanted it.
(11-22-2018, 12:26 PM)Dilectione Wrote: About the anti-hooker-module, it's good in my opinion, because what's the point of using dmsi if you just want a hooker.
First, I believe that if the FRM is done with fears then such modules wouldn't be necessary anymore. But my point was that if there will be such a module in DMSI than it must be scripted in a way that prevents using that as loophole to not execute and only apply for such direct payment for sex as escape from execution. I think Shannon will know how to script it correctly.
Will the want to die not be arising from the fear of life though?
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shawn - 11-22-2018
(11-22-2018, 02:39 PM)MasterEnki Wrote: What happens if she buys you dinner / drinks, and/or pays YOU to have sex with her?
And how often does it happens that she pays for everything included your transportation costs and so on? I mean in comparison to the opposite?