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RE: LionMonkey is a WM 5G - Spiral - 12-10-2012
Happy Belated Birthday!!
RE: LionMonkey is a WM 5G - LionMonkey - 12-14-2012
Thanks for the birthday wishes
I'm glad that my progress have inspired some. On that note, I have noticed something very, very strange lately...
I was sure that it was the weather that made people not really notice me. It goes always like this:
1. I have some great experiences.. good things happens to me and then suddenly it goes away and I can't stop thinking about it
2. I expect or kinda seek for the good experiences again
which leads to attachment I guess and that's why things don't go the way I feel like I would like them to go... what a contradiction?
It happened again but this time I am much more aware of it though...
This is not just a reminder for myself but also an advice for everyone who wants to be a woman magnet...
Short time after the great and bad experiences, I fell back into playing video-games and I played a LOT. This was my subconscious "solution" for not thinking about the stuff that has happened lately and it made my mind go into what I call, zombie land where there is nothing, no growth for the brain either.
Then I went out and I noticed I had a totally different presence. Either I couldn't make strong eye contact and I would break it pretty fast or else I sought eye contact to be noticed. Often I just avoided eye-contact. (this is all very subtle but with enough awareness it can be noticed)
When I look at it, it's like I've turned 180 degrees from a 3rd. person perspective.
But.. I knew that I could say and do things which would have broken that false person I had acted like. The thing is though that when my brain has been in zombie-land, it makes me not wanting to challenge my perspectives, so I would not act at all and if I did act it was without a strong frame or a strong will to get what I want.
It was more like.. bleeehhh.. kind of a passionless robot like.
Wow... really? me? yes.. it was like that. It made me feel angry but I couldn't really express myself. My heart was closed. Walled in. Locked.
So yesterday night I had some bad experiences from people who stepped on me or tried to but I just ignored it instead of standing up for myself. Funny I should say this but I am actually grateful that they did what they did because it motivated me.
Today when I woke up my mind was much clearer and when I opened my laptop, I instantly deleted the video-games.
I listened again to some podcasts of a ladies man about lifestyle and f*** it is great to be inspired again...
There are SO many distractions that stops the individual from realizing and getting what he truly desires today. It's insane! And the only thing that stops the person from getting what he truly wants, is himself...
I'm going to focus on lifestyle now. Let's see what will happen...
RE: LionMonkey is a WM 5G - Shannon - 12-14-2012
LM, what you describe is a textbook case of the inexperienced opening, up, letting themselves have a result, getting slapped down because of inexperience, and then reacting with fear and possibly shame, and closing off.
It's not uncommon. And it's part of everyone's journey to success to get slapped down sometimes. No matter who you are or what you do. There's always going to be a slap-down when you are too far off the path. And without a lot of experience in this direction, it's easy to not know where the path is.
But that smackdown isn't failure. It's a learning experience. You are learning, okay, that didn't work. Now you have to figure out what part of it didn't work, and keep what did. Fear and closing off isn't useful, and it won't stick around: the program will take care of that.
Here's a little bit of advice from someone who has suffered more than his share of smackdowns in life.
Failure only exists as failure, if you stop trying to succeed. Success is inevitable to those who refuse to give up.
So spend some time learning what you did right to get those results and what you did wrong, an then get back on your horse and ride out. And no matter how many times you get smacked down, never stop getting back on that horse and riding out. Because every time you get smacked down, you learn something valuable and important, and if you refuse to make the same mistake twice, each smackdown will turn into a gift in the end, when you look back and see that they weren't really smackdowns at all, but rungs on the ladder to success.
RE: LionMonkey is a WM 5G - ShanghaiKiwi - 12-15-2012
On the topic of computer games - gee whiz, I would love a "Never Play Computer Games Again" sub. I play them mostly when I'm depressed - but it doesn't help at all, it makes things worse, and I become an addict in my cave. That sucks.
RE: LionMonkey is a WM 5G - Shannon - 12-15-2012
That's called the "Hide from the world" response. I know it well. Afraid, frustrated or angry? Just play a game, and you can avoid it all day long. Again, it's usually a fear based response. And one that you can consciously choose to go against, by the way. That's actually why I do not have a gaming console, and why I only buy one game every several years. And because you guys make me work all the time.
RE: LionMonkey is a WM 5G - Spiral - 12-15-2012
I almost bought a new video game but didn't. Lasts one I played and beat were MGS4 and Red Dead Redemption. There probably aren't very many others out there that can match or top those.
RE: LionMonkey is a WM 5G - Shannon - 12-15-2012
Games are fun, but in the end, you must decide to waste your time playing games, or spend your time achieving your goals. I find games useful for balancing my stress levels, but using them to hide is unproductive.
RE: LionMonkey is a WM 5G - Spiral - 12-15-2012
I started doing this also Shannon. good point.
RE: LionMonkey is a WM 5G - ShanghaiKiwi - 12-16-2012
When I do it it is totally hiding from all the crap in my life, but while I do it I have to literally hide as well, i.e. from my wife. She hates me playing computer games. There's something about locking myself in the loo to hide from my wife for 2 hours playing Age of Empires that makes me feel worse about the crap I was hiding from in the first place.
RE: LionMonkey is a WM 5G - LionMonkey - 12-16-2012
(12-14-2012, 12:10 PM)Shannon Wrote: LM, what you describe is a textbook case of the inexperienced opening, up, letting themselves have a result, getting slapped down because of inexperience, and then reacting with fear and possibly shame, and closing off.
It's not uncommon. And it's part of everyone's journey to success to get slapped down sometimes. No matter who you are or what you do. There's always going to be a slap-down when you are too far off the path. And without a lot of experience in this direction, it's easy to not know where the path is.
But that smackdown isn't failure. It's a learning experience. You are learning, okay, that didn't work. Now you have to figure out what part of it didn't work, and keep what did. Fear and closing off isn't useful, and it won't stick around: the program will take care of that.
Here's a little bit of advice from someone who has suffered more than his share of smackdowns in life.
Failure only exists as failure, if you stop trying to succeed. Success is inevitable to those who refuse to give up.
So spend some time learning what you did right to get those results and what you did wrong, an then get back on your horse and ride out. And no matter how many times you get smacked down, never stop getting back on that horse and riding out. Because every time you get smacked down, you learn something valuable and important, and if you refuse to make the same mistake twice, each smackdown will turn into a gift in the end, when you look back and see that they weren't really smackdowns at all, but rungs on the ladder to success.
This subliminal has guided me immensely to just do the right things most of the time when I interact with a woman. It's like it is combining my knowledge of how female psychology works with my actions, naturally. It makes me a high-value man in the eyes of the women that I meet, who are open and receptive. (though recently, I have stopped being proactive in meeting women.. it's more like if they are near me I'll talk to them but going over to some girls - I don't feel like doing so much anymore.. maybe it's just my ego that needs to recover from the previous bad experiences)
I know what I did wrong that made the "relationships" not even started.
I also have a sense of what I did wrong so I felt that blown out of my great self - I put too much into it (I cared too much for it to depend on my self-esteem because of the good things that came from it. I knew in my head I wasn't attached to it but when it suddenly turns as I didn't expect at all, it took me by surprise) besides that I was having a hard time from my classmates which resulted in no life inspiration at all
I asked people whom I was with a week ago, if they did thought I was quiet a week ago and they all took a moment to think and said, yeah you were.
Funny enough, it's always like this. I'm like having a breakdown period every 3 months or so.
I think though that this awareness has helped me to understand myself better.
With all that said, I feel like I'm ready to roll again! I went to crossfit yesterday and almost died!
I'm doing my daily morning rituals again, stopped playing uncontrolled, stopped worrying about things that are out of my control, really feeling proud of who I am again and started to work out again (this was a BIG one to get back on the horse again for me)
.I find that people, friends, family begin to "step" on you in different ways when you are not proud of yourself. It's like this in my head, "hey! why are you guys like this to me when I need the most guidance/help right now?" it's a motivator to me though. Most people don't know how to talk about it and inspire another person that is "down". I know my recent coach and some of his friends are able to do that but they are not most people
RE: LionMonkey is a WM 5G - LionMonkey - 12-20-2012
Stage 1 - Day 26,
I've been doing my rituals consistently every day and it starts my day out really great. Even when I wake up and feeling a bit down.
Have gone to some hardcore crossfit the past week and I feel like I got a lot of energy but on the other side, I probably come off too confident sometimes.
I often notice women turn their head to look at me or they would let me catch them looking at me. On the other hand I notice girls stare and look at other guys too.
One thing that I noticed when girls would approach me and respond to me very well was when I didn't judge people, was a bit vulnerable, while I was maintaining a grateful feeling and some sexiness.
Another thing I've noticed is that I've become MUCH more aware of my voice tonality and how I speak. It's very interesting to play around with
RE: LionMonkey is a WM 5G - LionMonkey - 12-25-2012
Hope everyone had a great Christmas!
Stage 1 - Day 31
"I feel misunderstood" something I just have in me. Not trying to express it. My best friends and people who know me from when I was little understand this.
Yesterday night there were some parent issues again. My father is very bad at communicating and my mom is always trying to hold it all together when procrastination isn't there. They both have a good heart but my fathers pride/ego brings out his immature self that I think is disgusting...
(It's strange. I can write about this issue freely but I don't talk about it with friends. Something in me says that it's not necessary and it wont do any good. I let it dwell somewhere in me and focus on the now)
Later I went to one of my friends, late night, as a tradition to drink a few beers and head to the bars afterwards.
As I entered my friends house I saw a Christmas tree and a lot of opened presents around it. Then I entered the dining room and there were 10-12 people most of them from my friends family. No music on. I felt quite uncomfortable. Speaking with low voice I greeted some of the people I knew. My good friend and his passionate mom were there too. His mom kept looking at me in like a "wonder" way and said it was great to see me again. I was polite and said likewise but without the energy in it at all :S
(I haven't been socializing for 3-4 days and this setting, I am not used to it at all! plus coming from a wrecked atmosphere from home. It set the icing on the cake)
They had just finished the package game and were now playing around with the presents. I tried to make myself comfortable and tried to play with a puzzle. Suddenly my friends elder sister (which I know from former get-togethers like these and from childhood but have never really got into a deeper interaction) asked me about what I was doing now. She was sitting in the opposite side of the table from me so there were like 2 meters distance between us.
I felt extremely uneasy. I answered her questions without feeling the energy at all but I maintained myself so there were no signs of nervousness but just very uncomfortable.
(I visualized how I would rather have it happen another time in a situation like this. Being extremely honest and it goes something along like this; "I feel very uncomfortable telling you in this distance. Why don't you come over here or make some space over there and I'll tell you with pleasure")
My bodylanguage was very strong and proud throughout the whole night. It was just my communication skills that was out of track.
I began talking with my good friends mom and I felt quite uneasy in the beginning. Eventually a small thought appeared in my mind, saying "People are more concerned about what you think of them than what they think of you", which made me feel much more on ease.
We talked about being non-judgmental but still not naive. About couch-surfing and about how her mission in life has been to teach his son that he is his own man and that he should go doing what HE wants. That he is his own person.
I found it very interesting for a mom to say this. Has she succeeded? I think so. My good friend is strange in his own ways but thats great. He's a great person and he is not boring
I excused myself to the toilet and when I came back she told me that she really liked that I had become communicative. She said she remembered how much of a computer-geek I was and I wasn't really communicating back then. She liked it and excused if it came off as something bad.
I liked it because it was the truth. Even though lately I've had some time of playing again.
Throughout the night I wasn't very curious at all. When people asked about me I wouldn't really ask about them again and I was never really the one who started a conversation. Even though somewhere deep in me I knew it would be great to be the guy who talks with everybody and are able to make the gathering more interesting!
It became late and we hit the bars around 2 in the night. Filled up bars with happy people around the city. Some cute girls without any guys. Guys on the hunt.
On the way home I notice a girl I've seen sometimes in the town before. Real cute but have had a bad first impression of me. I invited her as my date for new years but she was going to berlin with her friend to celebrate it. I told her f*** that and come with me instead.
I could see she actually wanted to be with me instead by the long holding eye contact from moment to moment...
I have noticed I've become much more polite after starting WM. Some traits that beforehand I would think as a nice-guy wussy behavior. It's strange. (During my AM and my SM, I would do and say very edgy things just to see what I can get away with) Now I'm much more laid back and I also just let people do what they want to do. I can't really get a hold of how much "leading" and persistency skills I have. Usually I'm not very persistent with new girls I meet.
It's like there is a hole in my mind about the whole alpha thing. It's not something I pressure towards, thinking, "I gotta maintain their attention" and then force an action out of myself to try to make it happen....
Been thinking how much cooler it would be to spend my holiday in other ways. I'm not made to be in a cold and dark country for this long every year!
RE: LionMonkey is a WM 5G - LionMonkey - 12-29-2012
Recap of Stage 1
The biggest differences I've noticed going through Woman Magnet Stage 1 have been:
- Much more awareness over how I speak. Voice of tone.
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- More carefree and expressive in a non-needy manner
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- Much more control over how I interact and respond to women in a way that expresses that I am the prize
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- I've had several situations where I saw a girl and I would automatically walk over to her and talk to her without any hesitation. As far as I remember, they've all went extremely well...
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- I've become less proactive in walking over to women and talk with them but now when I do walk over to women it goes extremely well compared to before. I am staying in the interactions for longer times and I am leading more.
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- Women sense that I am sincere and I sense that they would love to have an affaire with me if the circumstances would let it happen
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- Guys begin to like me more. Lately I've had random guys throw women at me. For example, yesterday night, a cute, hot girl came over to me and asked me if she could kiss (it was more like a heavy makeout) me because the guy over there has betted a drink for it.
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- I've become less of an asshole.
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- My mentor told me, "Would you say to your good friend, 'actually I don't know what to say'?" LOL. I have applied this mindset and my interactions with women have become much less pressure on myself and more fun and carefree...
New Years is close and I'm extremely excited to see what's going to happen through the next Stages of WM!
RE: LionMonkey is a WM 5G - Sean - 12-29-2012
Wow, that's a fantastic leap in one month. I can't wait to start my own WM2 journey.
Keep us informed, brother!