(12-16-2022, 07:47 PM)Duke.Togo Wrote: ...
The old samurai warrior Musashi once said "the only way to survive a battle, is to go into it ready to die."  Business is no different.  
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(12-25-2022, 06:29 AM)Johannesbrst Wrote:

(12-16-2022, 07:47 PM)Duke.Togo Wrote: ...
The old samurai warrior Musashi once said "the only way to survive a battle, is to go into it ready to die."  Business is no different.  
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Hi there,

I got interested in Musashi after you mentioned it and wrote put up "The book of five rings" on my to-read list, but I couldn't find the quote you were paraphrasing above, will I find it in the book? Love it.

(12-29-2022, 05:53 AM)Duke.Togo Wrote:

(12-25-2022, 06:29 AM)Johannesbrst Wrote: Hi there,

I got interested in Musashi after you mentioned it and wrote put up "The book of five rings" on my to-read list, but I couldn't find the quote you were paraphrasing above, will I find it in the book? Love it.

The variation of the quote differs based on who did the translation of the book. The closest that I found is the following - generally speaking, the way of the warrior is resolute acceptance of death. 

Historians basically came to view that quote as a warrior has to go into battle ready to die, and ultimately that is what leads to a warriors survival. 

The book of five rings is many things, a fantastic book on strategy is one of its many things. 

Another great book I recommend for all men to read is Meditations by Marcus Aurelius. 

I think you will find a lot of wisdom from both books. 
Generally speaking, the Way of the oil

(01-05-2023, 12:45 PM)Johannesbrst Wrote:

(12-29-2022, 05:53 AM)Duke.Togo Wrote: The variation of the quote differs based on who did the translation of the book. The closest that I found is the following - generally speaking, the way of the warrior is resolute acceptance of death. 

Historians basically came to view that quote as a warrior has to go into battle ready to die, and ultimately that is what leads to a warriors survival. 

The book of five rings is many things, a fantastic book on strategy is one of its many things. 

Another great book I recommend for all men to read is Meditations by Marcus Aurelius. 

I think you will find a lot of wisdom from both books. 
Generally speaking, the Way of the oil

Thanks man,

Meditations have been on my reading list for a while now, I started reading Seneca but it was a bit too dense for me at the time. I've ordered meditations, perhaps I'm in a more adequate place to take texts like that in. I read Aurelius based some of his work on Seneca so perhaps it's a bit of a synthesis.

I ordered the five rings as well, looking forward reading it. I like eastern philosophy in general and really appreciated reading Tao te ching, it really gives you some food for thought if you stay with its texts and reflect upon them.

By the way - I'm currently reading the works of an russian-american philosopher called Ayn Rand, I've finished her magnum opus Atlas Shrugged and I'm currently reading The Fountainhead. If you enjoy reading about human (and mans) ultimate potential, I think you would enjoy her writings. I think they are marvellous, potentially my favourite books of all time. Previously having Steinbeck as an all time favourite, a little different focus, but also a wonderful writer describing human lives and conditions. Ayn Rand is more romantic in that sense, writing about "what could be", while I find Steinbeck more about "this is what is".

Just a little rant about literature. Happy new year! 

PS. Really looking forward getting my hand on the product description of Maverick, being a bit envious about you being a bit down the journey in discovering it.

EDIT:

By the way you were saying that Maverick made you more masculine, have you noticed being more masculine toward women and they responding more feminine to you?

(10-26-2022, 10:02 AM)Duke.Togo Wrote: Current life theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTwp1sgUJrM

Before I get into my experiences with the sub, I wanted to start with talking about my song selection for my current life theme.  Flamenco Sketches was the last track on Miles Davis's Kind of Blue album.  An album that has had many, many accolades given to it.  It is revered as one of the greatest, if not greatest, Jazz Album.  It ranked number 12 on a Rolling Stone's 500 greatest albums of all time list.  And in many ways, it redefined what Jazz is and shaped what its come to be.  It was also a departure for Miles and really created the birth of his more esoteric music.  In essence, it was a defining moment for Miles.  And he put the best of the best on this album, including John Coltrane, Julian Adderley, Bill Evans, Paul Chambers, and Jimmy Cobb.  It was the dream team of Jazz, and the only one who could have put a session like this down in recording history is Miles.  Because Miles Davis was many things, he was an icon, a musical genius, and most of all, he was a Maverick... 

Which brings me to my own experiences.  I chose the name of the journal based on one of my favorite Metal tracks, Aces High by Iron Maiden, for those of you old school metal heads on the forum, but, that song didn't really fit my experience.  

So, what can I share with you about Maverick.  How about I start from the beginning.  Shannon and I connected late July of this year and he told me he had an interesting experimental sub he had been working on for a long time.  He only gave me three pieces of information. 

1. It's a Mens only Sub. 
2. It is completely unrelated to any other sub in IML's catalog. 
3. This sub has no training wheels.    

And then he asked if I was interested in testing it out.  I don't think I've ever said hell yes to anything as fast before in my life.  

With that, began my journey with Maverick.  And what a journey it has been.  Now, before I go into my own experiences with the sub, there are a few things I've realized since testing it out, and have had many conversations with Shannon about as well.  And I wanted to at least put that out there for anyone else who will be using the sub. 

The very definition of what a Maverick is, is someone that is independent minded and tends to walk to the beat of their own drum.  They forego the rules and expectations of the world around them, and instead be who they want to be.  And history is littered with such characters.  Henry Ford, Howard Hughes, Picasso, Miles Davis, Hugh Hefner, Steve Jobs, Jean-Michel Basquiat, Richard Branson, Jeff Bezos, Jay-Z, Elon Musk, etc... Regardless of what you think of these people as individuals, they all share the common thread of following their own path and doing their own thing, which is what made them stand out and brought them incredible success in their own lives.  And why they are each mavericks.  This is what the sub is ultimately designed to do for the listener.  

This is what everyone approaching this sub should keep in mind.  It means that for each of you running this sub, the changes that occur and the experiences that become manifest into your reality, will align with who you are and indicate for you, who you are becoming.  I do feel like there will be some things that everyone who uses the sub will see as commonality.  But I won't speak to those points here, because, again, I don't want my experiences to be the de facto standard for everyone else.  However, that being said, I wouldn't be surprised at all if we all share experiences of a similar vein.  

So what have I experienced.  First, this is the smoothest sub I have ever used, period.  I don't get any headaches on it, didn't have any resistance, it was just seamless for me.  Which is the first time I can really say that about any sub I have used.  

Maverick is also a sub I didn't need a lot of exposure too, and that became evident within my first few listens.  On average now, I listen to half a loop twice a week, for a grand total listening time of 1 hour a week.  This is a very dense sub, and I do feel that, because of the way I feel when I listen.  I feel like there is a lot of information coming in, but again, it's not overwhelming.  I just naturally knew that less is more, and I came to that conclusion with time.  So, I wouldn't recommend anyone to bomb themselves with this and spend countless hours.  It'll do its thing, changes are subtle and they come about naturally.  It's only when you stop to look back at the 30 day mark, 60 day mark, 90 day mark that you realize how much has actually changed for you.  

After my first 30 or so days on the sub, I realized I no longer had any desire to drink.  Now, I'm a social drinker in general, but I just realized I didn't need to do that at all.  Along with that, I became very conscious of what I spend my time on.  I run two startups plus I have a full-time role as a C Level Executive for a Financial Institution that manages over 100 Billion Dollars.  Time is not something I have a lot of.  So when I did have down time previously, I'd typically numb myself with bad movies or something else to zombie me and shut that lovely mind of mine down.  And somewhere around the time that I decided to stop socially drinking, I also realized that the TV I watch, the music I listen to, pretty much anything I expose myself to can either have a positive effect or a negative effect.  I can't tell you how many times I have regurgitated some witty line from a movie because I thought it sounded good.  And then I found myself asking why?  Why am I parroting someone else?  And I realized because I'm just absorbing what everyone else is doing, because I am allowing myself to do that.  That led me to try an experiment on myself where I would stop watching any TV or Media in general, and stop listening to music with words in it.  I was initially going to run this experiment for 30 days, but it's been close to 60 now and I have no desire to go back.  Because I don't need that secondary influence in my life.  

And with that change came other changes as well, I started to look physically better, my brain got sharper, I decided to even change my wardrobe up.  Each of those experiences collectively unlocked another stage in my growth, which I didn't think was possible in my mid 40's.  But, apparently I was wrong.  I've made leaps and bounds of progress in my two startups and the people that I am connecting with, the way my network even now is growing, is insane.  I've quite literally met legends in the finance industry that I have the opportunity to work with now.  I've been invited to incredibly exclusive events, traveled to interesting places and have been granted access to some incredibly powerful inner circles.  I'm being vague here, due to the confidential nature of many of these things, all I can say is, I never believed I would have had that access previously.  90 days of Maverick later, that's a normal day in my life now.  And I was already successful before, but there is a point of growth where I am reaching the next level.  

What I can speak to that is referential to my experiences, in a more concrete manner, is that all the people I am now connecting with are also Mavericks in their chosen fields.  The saying birds of a feather flock together never rang so true as it does for me now.  And when I talk about exclusive events, it's not a reality show type of party or anything like that, it's events that exist behind closed doors and really consist of guiding the lines with the power brokers of the world.  I unfortunately can't say more than that, but this should give you a hint of what to expect.  Of how things suddenly start to unfold in your life.  And this is where I say that you need the look back period, because at the time when I was experiencing many of these things or being invited to these types of events, it didn't phase me at all.  I wasn't suddenly overwhelmed with a case of being starstruck or worse yet, contending with imposter syndrome.  It was just natural for me.  Then of course I stop and actually collectively look at where I am, and it's like, how the f*ck did this happen? 

Now, being a Mens only sub, I'm sure a lot of you are wondering, what about the women?  I'll put it this way, I've had my business successes taking up a lot of my time, so much so that I don't necessarily have time for other women.  That being said, I currently have two women who quite literally treat me like a king.  Fancy dinners, sexual dress-up, whatever deviant desire I have they fulfill.  And other women are around the wings as well, waiting for my time, trying to connect with me.  But again, I just don't have the time for them.  

Now, what I will say is this, do not hop on this sub expecting that women will throw themselves at you.  What will happen, and I believe everyone will notice this over time, is sort of a natural progression in your own life.  You start to think for yourself, come to your own realizations, embrace incredible changes, and then suddenly, women start to bask in your glow.  They send you all of the indicators to come over and open them.  You will need to open them and guide the interaction.  But, it becomes very clear, very quickly how attracted they are to you.  Which makes it easier for you to just go in for the move, and then find yourself in a corner somewhere with a woman panting in your ear while both her legs are wrapped around your back.  And that will be a fairly common experience for a lot of men who use this.  Because, the sub is designed to make you your best self, in everything you do.  Literally, everything.  

This is a sub that is best left to run without any expectations because you don't know where it will guide you.  I think the more you try to consciously control the outcome, the harder it will be to get the greatest value out of this.  But, I think with enough time, even if you consciously try to control how you want the sub to perform, eventually you yourself will let go.  Because again, this is designed to integrate with you.  And it will do that.  

But it will do it in a way that makes it authentic to who you are.  It won't transform you into someone else, it will peel the layers back of you, get to your core, and then reinforce that with diamonds and gold.  If your experiences are like mine, you will shine.  You will become the center of attention.  You will find incredible amounts of success.  You will feel your most masculine and sensual.  You will become the most honest, fulfilled, and probably fully realized version of yourself, whatever that means to you at your most core level.  

So, with that, I'll just close out and say enjoy the ride Mavericks.  You're in for the best one of your lives...

(02-11-2023, 05:28 PM)Z-Man Wrote: Hey Duke, Great results on this program. I have a question. Suppose you are not a genius like all those people you mention and are not an executive in a big position like you. Will this program still work? I haven't even done Alpha Male V6.

(02-12-2023, 09:32 PM)Duke.Togo Wrote:

(02-11-2023, 05:28 PM)Z-Man Wrote: Hey Duke, Great results on this program. I have a question. Suppose you are not a genius like all those people you mention and are not an executive in a big position like you. Will this program still work? I haven't even done Alpha Male V6.

Hey man, great question.  I'll give you my honest opinion on what I think Maverick can do for anyone who uses it.  And I mean this from the perspective of no matter what position you're starting from.  Also, just to provide some background, I never ran AM either.  Prior to Maverick I only ran two other IML subs.  

I believe that despite where you're starting from, with enough time on Maverick and if you give it space to breathe, it will unfold in ways that you can't imagine, but, as the process continues, you get to a point where it's almost like playing a game of connect the dots.  If you ever did those puzzles as a kid, where you would draw based on numbers, and as you connected the lines going from 1 all the way up to 30 at times, you would suddenly see the picture.  I'm old, but I remember those were the drawing books I had as a kid.  Anyway, I use that as an analogy because when you start Maverick you won't really know where it's going at first.  But after 4, 6, 8 weeks of use, you start to see the outline of the picture.  Then all of a sudden all the other pieces start to fall into place.  Before you know it, your whole life is suddenly changing. 

So yeah, Maverick in my opinion can take you from where you are into the stratosphere.  And I mean that in terms of complete 360 change.  If you're a guy whose shy and can't meet women, is not experiencing the life you want, doing the work you want to do, it can change you.  The best comparison I can make of Maverick is kind of like the pill from the movie Limitless.  It won't turn you into a genius who taps all their potential overnight.  But it will transform you over the months of use where you actually get pretty fucking close to experiencing that.  It does a complete overhaul of your entire life.  

But, it will take time.  Maverick is something you will need to run for the long haul and something you should go into with zero expectations and zero outcomes.  I say this because the less baggage you bring with you into the program, the more you'll get out of it.  If you go into it with a focus on an outcome you're hard set on, it may not work as well for you.  It's kind of like seeing the forest for the trees.  

The two things that Maverick requires is trust and patience.  I've been using it for almost 8 months now and I'm not planning on stopping use of it any time soon.  It just keeps leveling me up.  Every time I think I've reached my peak with the sub, it just peels away another layer for me.  And after nearly 8 months of use, I think I finally understand the true potential of this particular sub.  

Maverick is truly a game changer.  I just hope that the people who deserve to run this sub have the opportunity to do so.  It will literally change lives.  I know that for a fact, since it's completely changed mine.

(02-13-2023, 05:13 PM)Z-Man Wrote: Thanks Duke for explaining it in full detail. It sounds like it discovers your passion and brings it to life in an amazing way. It's like NZT without the harmful side effects. The cutting edge subliminal. It will create a limitless life, if you give it enough time. I guess you gave to go with the flow & take it one day at a time with no expectations. Does Maverick make you exhausting after listening to it?

(02-13-2023, 09:12 PM)Duke.Togo Wrote:

(02-13-2023, 05:13 PM)Z-Man Wrote: Thanks Duke for explaining it in full detail. It sounds like it discovers your passion and brings it to life in an amazing way. It's like NZT without the harmful side effects. The cutting edge subliminal. It will create a limitless life, if you give it enough time. I guess you gave to go with the flow & take it one day at a time with no expectations. Does Maverick make you exhausting after listening to it?

Not at all from my experience with it.  Then again I only run it for like 20 to 30 minutes twice a week.  Maverick, for me, doesn't require a heavy listening schedule.  Less is much more.  If you try to run like three loops back to back everyday you'll definitely be wiped.  But there is no reason for anyone to do that.  I think the only time I listened to two full loops of it was the first three days of use.  After that, I went down to one loop twice a week, and slowly decreased the time to now half a loop twice a week. 

Regarding the passion bit, it does do that, don't get me wrong, but it's a bit more than just passion.  It slowly re-engineers your life in a way that is fully optimized for you to be at the top of whatever it is that will work for you at that particular point.  Meaning, I don't know what the ceiling with Maverick is yet.  Every time I think I do get there, I realize that I can go even higher.  

To give some concrete examples, I've done things like optimize my eating habits, I work out regularly now without having to try, I have multiple women on rotation, I have more business opportunities than before, I am invited to more and more exclusive events, groups, social outings.  But while all this is happening, there is this sense of internal grounding that is also happening to me.  I'm pretty much unfazed by anything that comes my way.  I have more emotional control now than I have ever had at any given time in my life.  I used to think I knew what self confidence was, but no, I've only come to understand what that means in the last few months.  I feel my most authentic.  Even emotional traumas and past failures in my life that haunted me for decades no longer exist.  And I say this knowing that there isn't a healing in Maverick.  But the way that Maverick builds you up internally, there is a kind of emotional exorcism that happens in the process.  It's so hard to explain.  You literally become re-wired to operate at your best.  

Hell, I'm even learning new languages these days and reading more.  

I have such a hard time explaining what Maverick can do, because it's such a beast of a sub.  This is also part of the reason why when I saw other members of the forum jumping to conclusions of what Maverick will do or is probably going to do, it annoyed the shit out of me.  Now, quite frankly, I could give two shits of their opinions or expectations.  Those that will run Maverick, will run it.  And they'll see first hand.  I'm guessing it will be a very small number from the forum.  

If Maverick is a sub that's calling you, then it's probably meant for you to run.  Because you want what this sub can offer.  And if it doesn't speak to you or you feel you need something else, then it's probably not for you and you should run whatever that something else is.  If you do run it and keep a journal on the forum, I'll be keeping a keen eye on your progress.  Something like this is too amazing of an experience to not be able to share with others.

• I want to meet a high quality, beutiful woman who appreciate me and love me.
  
• I want to grow my business
  
• I want to get in great physical shape
  
• I want to have a great and fulfilling social circle
  
• I want to keep working on music which is my main hobby and keep enjoying it
  

(02-21-2023, 02:56 AM)Johannesbrst Wrote: Hi Duke,

I have a few goals for my life in the nearest perspective (5 years):

• I want to meet a high quality, beutiful woman who appreciate me and love me.
  
• I want to grow my business
  
• I want to get in great physical shape
  
• I want to have a great and fulfilling social circle
  
• I want to keep working on music which is my main hobby and keep enjoying it
  

My question to you, is Maverick the right subliminal for getting there? I feel like I have a desire for strong emotional experiences in life, and the little I've gotten from the experiences above has given me that, and I want more of it. I want to live life on the edge, so to speak.

I'm currently running OGSF and plan to run a full 4-month run to get rid of junk that keep me from being generally happy and at peace and to give Maverick a better chance of guiding me to where I want to go.

(02-21-2023, 01:15 PM)Duke.Togo Wrote:

(02-21-2023, 02:56 AM)Johannesbrst Wrote: Hi Duke,

I have a few goals for my life in the nearest perspective (5 years):

• I want to meet a high quality, beutiful woman who appreciate me and love me.
  
• I want to grow my business
  
• I want to get in great physical shape
  
• I want to have a great and fulfilling social circle
  
• I want to keep working on music which is my main hobby and keep enjoying it
  

My question to you, is Maverick the right subliminal for getting there? I feel like I have a desire for strong emotional experiences in life, and the little I've gotten from the experiences above has given me that, and I want more of it. I want to live life on the edge, so to speak.

I'm currently running OGSF and plan to run a full 4-month run to get rid of junk that keep me from being generally happy and at peace and to give Maverick a better chance of guiding me to where I want to go.

It's funny you posted this question today because I was working with Shannon fine tuning the description of Maverick just last night and we agreed on a few disclaimers that Maverick needs to carry.  Top of that list is that it probably shouldn't be run by guys that are married and or in serious relationships.  

Let me explain what I mean by that.  Maverick will undoubtedly hit all of the goals you've listed out, no question there.  I used the word dangerous a few times in my conversation with Shannon and it's pretty accurate to that.  Maverick imbues the listener with a quality that borders almost on danger, which is something you have to be familiar with, especially if you're going to be a Maverick.  That doesn't mean life or death danger, but, your appetite for risk grows significantly and things that might scare off the average human being from pursuing, is ultimately the major "X Factor" for the listener of Maverick in their pursuit of success.  That also means things like marriage or having a partner who doesn't understand these aspects of your changes will naturally cause a shit ton of conflict.  Ultimately, it will probably come at the cost of the relationship.  I could be wrong, but based on my experiences, that's how I feel. 

That all being said, and I was hesitant to post these results, but since the description will be coming out sooner than later, and to address some of the other questions that posters have either asked or assumptions that have been made about this program and its lack of sexual satisfaction at the cost of pursuing success, let me shed some light. 

Maverick has put me front and center in a number of different situations with women that I wasn't expecting.  The most recent of which started a couple of months back when I ended up in a threesome with a couple of 20 something, stunning Asian girls.  And that relationship persisted with both women for a few weeks, meaning we did the threesome thing more than once.  Lately I haven't had time for those girls as business issues popped up again, but, it's nice to know that the repeat performance of that situation can be had with a phone call.  

As I mentioned to Shannon, my typical age range for women prior to Maverick, was between 35 to 48.  I like my women closer to my own age because by this point, most of the women I spend time with, are successful enough in their own right that I don't necessarily need to do deal with the usual bullshit.  A few of the women I know have raised the whole let's have kids thing to me, but that's always been a hard no for me.  So me suddenly having the unusual relationship I had with two twenty something year olds is very uncharacteristic of me.  

In my opinion, Maverick is THE All Rounder.  But it's an all rounder in a whole different kind of way.  The more you strip away the need to conform to the ideals of what society wants, the more you become somewhat eccentric in a way because you don't necessarily believe in the social rules and norms that you're supposed to abide by.  Ironically, it's when you're in that situation that you find the greatest opportunities to grow and be successful.  

The problem I think a lot of the people on the forum have is that, and I think this is why Shannon has been so adamant about people being ready to run this sub, is because to be able to reach the heights you can reach with Maverick, it almost requires you to go to a blank slate and build.  Which is also why I said, if you're looking to try to compare what Maverick does to something else, it'll be lost on you.  You don't know what the other side looks like cuz you haven't experienced it yet, so even if you try to imagine it, you won't be able to.  You'd only get in your own way like that.  And to be clear, when I say a blank slate, I mean leave your expectations, fears, concerns, traumas, all of it at the door.  Don't worry about any of those things and whether it will get resolved or it won't.  Just go into Maverick as an empty vessel and let it build you.  In due time, you won't even remember your traumas anymore, because it won't matter. 

So if you follow the instructions for this sub, like clearly follow it and try not to deviate because you think you're going to hammer your subconscious into submission and win, which you won't, you will find what the other side looks like in time.  And I do mean that for anyone starting from anywhere.  The issue is, most people can't fathom what that means and their own fears will get in the way of them achieving the goal of Maverick.  

So yes, you will have all of the business success, a sense of self confidence you never knew before, and relationships with lots of gorgeous women.  The last part though, and what I don't believe Maverick will do for you, is provide you love.  Satisfaction, absolutely.  But love... they will probably fall in love with you, but I don't think the same will be true for you reciprocating those feelings. 

Ultimately, in your strive for freedom, what you almost realize is that the things you own, ultimately own you.  The same can be said about the women.  You're not going to want to be bogged down by one woman or any women, other than treating them as a fun distraction.  Not saying you'll turn into an asshole.  But, you won't necessarily be compelled to stay in a relationship.  That kind of runs contrary to the goals of what being a true Maverick is in many ways.

(02-21-2023, 01:15 PM)Duke.Togo Wrote: It's funny you posted this question today because I was working with Shannon fine tuning the description of Maverick just last night and we agreed on a few disclaimers that Maverick needs to carry.  Top of that list is that it probably shouldn't be run by guys that are married and or in serious relationships.  

Let me explain what I mean by that.  Maverick will undoubtedly hit all of the goals you've listed out, no question there.  I used the word dangerous a few times in my conversation with Shannon and it's pretty accurate to that.  Maverick imbues the listener with a quality that borders almost on danger, which is something you have to be familiar with, especially if you're going to be a Maverick.  That doesn't mean life or death danger, but, your appetite for risk grows significantly and things that might scare off the average human being from pursuing, is ultimately the major "X Factor" for the listener of Maverick in their pursuit of success.  That also means things like marriage or having a partner who doesn't understand these aspects of your changes will naturally cause a shit ton of conflict.  Ultimately, it will probably come at the cost of the relationship.  I could be wrong, but based on my experiences, that's how I feel. 

That all being said, and I was hesitant to post these results, but since the description will be coming out sooner than later, and to address some of the other questions that posters have either asked or assumptions that have been made about this program and its lack of sexual satisfaction at the cost of pursuing success, let me shed some light. 

Maverick has put me front and center in a number of different situations with women that I wasn't expecting.  The most recent of which started a couple of months back when I ended up in a threesome with a couple of 20 something, stunning Asian girls.  And that relationship persisted with both women for a few weeks, meaning we did the threesome thing more than once.  Lately I haven't had time for those girls as business issues popped up again, but, it's nice to know that the repeat performance of that situation can be had with a phone call.  

As I mentioned to Shannon, my typical age range for women prior to Maverick, was between 35 to 48.  I like my women closer to my own age because by this point, most of the women I spend time with, are successful enough in their own right that I don't necessarily need to do deal with the usual bullshit.  A few of the women I know have raised the whole let's have kids thing to me, but that's always been a hard no for me.  So me suddenly having the unusual relationship I had with two twenty something year olds is very uncharacteristic of me.  

In my opinion, Maverick is THE All Rounder.  But it's an all rounder in a whole different kind of way.  The more you strip away the need to conform to the ideals of what society wants, the more you become somewhat eccentric in a way because you don't necessarily believe in the social rules and norms that you're supposed to abide by.  Ironically, it's when you're in that situation that you find the greatest opportunities to grow and be successful.  

The problem I think a lot of the people on the forum have is that, and I think this is why Shannon has been so adamant about people being ready to run this sub, is because to be able to reach the heights you can reach with Maverick, it almost requires you to go to a blank slate and build.  Which is also why I said, if you're looking to try to compare what Maverick does to something else, it'll be lost on you.  You don't know what the other side looks like cuz you haven't experienced it yet, so even if you try to imagine it, you won't be able to.  You'd only get in your own way like that.  And to be clear, when I say a blank slate, I mean leave your expectations, fears, concerns, traumas, all of it at the door.  Don't worry about any of those things and whether it will get resolved or it won't.  Just go into Maverick as an empty vessel and let it build you.  In due time, you won't even remember your traumas anymore, because it won't matter. 

So if you follow the instructions for this sub, like clearly follow it and try not to deviate because you think you're going to hammer your subconscious into submission and win, which you won't, you will find what the other side looks like in time.  And I do mean that for anyone starting from anywhere.  The issue is, most people can't fathom what that means and their own fears will get in the way of them achieving the goal of Maverick.  

So yes, you will have all of the business success, a sense of self confidence you never knew before, and relationships with lots of gorgeous women.  The last part though, and what I don't believe Maverick will do for you, is provide you love.  Satisfaction, absolutely.  But love... they will probably fall in love with you, but I don't think the same will be true for you reciprocating those feelings. 

Ultimately, in your strive for freedom, what you almost realize is that the things you own, ultimately own you.  The same can be said about the women.  You're not going to want to be bogged down by one woman or any women, other than treating them as a fun distraction.  Not saying you'll turn into an asshole.  But, you won't necessarily be compelled to stay in a relationship.  That kind of runs contrary to the goals of what being a true Maverick is in many ways.