(10-17-2018, 12:14 AM)Minititan Wrote: Don't have a journal so I'm just putting this here. Been on USLM2 four days now. First 2 i was on holiday so I listened to ultrasonic on speakers. 3rd day had just got home so I threw on hybrid trickling stream over speakers. Haven't noticed much or anything thus far.

Last night I went to bed and used headphones and trickling stream. And I suddenly felt extremely overwhelmed by everything and I kept having mini awake dreams which were like children's fever dreams, I'm lying in bed and in my head I get images of a woman sliding out from under my bed, I feel the sensation of insects crawling all over me, I could feel the bed wobble even though I was still, I could hear bangs on the ceiling and floor and walls even though I was wearing the headphones. Not gonna lie was a little freaky. If I wasn't listening to the sub I probably would have got up and put the light on for half an hour but I was telling myself that it was just the sub trying to bring fear to the surface.

Opinions Shannon or anyone? Is that normal. Used subs for years and never experienced anything like that before. But I dunno how the fear removal module works or how it feels

(10-16-2018, 12:51 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(10-16-2018, 12:41 PM)lano1106 Wrote: Zane, it is a metaphor for reward. Never heard of the stick & carrot method?

I don’t know what women want.

I’ve done my best. I do what I want, self-directed, don’t take shit, living my mission, have a good style, always make the girl cum, good listener, also selfish just enough to not be a people pleaser but not so much to be an asshole (tho some might disagree)

So yeah, I got nothing.

(10-17-2018, 12:14 AM)Minititan Wrote: Last night I went to bed and used headphones and trickling stream.

(10-17-2018, 06:01 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(10-16-2018, 11:45 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Even if we could turn off the fear, Shannon, what about other people? The fact that we have no fear could trigger fear in others, like in my many cases trying for quick online meetups. I had no fear of meeting but the woman clearly did.

Have you ever considered that one of the things women love about "bad boys" and "alphas" is that they don't have fear like other guys? Everyone has fears, but those two groups are different. That's a big part of what women love about them. They hold fear differently, respond to fear differently, and live differently as a result.

You not having fear will doubtless trigger fear in some poor soul who hasn't used one of my subs with the FRM active. But why would you want to bother with someone who was afraid because you weren't? No matter what it is you're talking about, two things are true: You can find porn for it if you look hard enough, and you can find someone who's afraid of it.

(10-17-2018, 06:51 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(10-17-2018, 06:01 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(10-16-2018, 11:45 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Even if we could turn off the fear, Shannon, what about other people? The fact that we have no fear could trigger fear in others, like in my many cases trying for quick online meetups. I had no fear of meeting but the woman clearly did.

Have you ever considered that one of the things women love about "bad boys" and "alphas" is that they don't have fear like other guys? Everyone has fears, but those two groups are different. That's a big part of what women love about them. They hold fear differently, respond to fear differently, and live differently as a result.

You not having fear will doubtless trigger fear in some poor soul who hasn't used one of my subs with the FRM active. But why would you want to bother with someone who was afraid because you weren't? No matter what it is you're talking about, two things are true: You can find porn for it if you look hard enough, and you can find someone who's afraid of it.

Just saw this, I don’t understand the porn reference lol but I do understand the fear thing. My limited experience with women shows they do give me leeway because of it but also sometimes they run away.

(10-17-2018, 06:58 AM)Have at ye Wrote:

(10-17-2018, 06:51 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(10-17-2018, 06:01 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(10-16-2018, 11:45 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Even if we could turn off the fear, Shannon, what about other people? The fact that we have no fear could trigger fear in others, like in my many cases trying for quick online meetups. I had no fear of meeting but the woman clearly did.

Have you ever considered that one of the things women love about "bad boys" and "alphas" is that they don't have fear like other guys? Everyone has fears, but those two groups are different. That's a big part of what women love about them. They hold fear differently, respond to fear differently, and live differently as a result.

You not having fear will doubtless trigger fear in some poor soul who hasn't used one of my subs with the FRM active. But why would you want to bother with someone who was afraid because you weren't? No matter what it is you're talking about, two things are true: You can find porn for it if you look hard enough, and you can find someone who's afraid of it.

Just saw this, I don’t understand the porn reference lol but I do understand the fear thing. My limited experience with women shows they do give me leeway because of it but also sometimes they run away.

Rule 34 of the Internet. "If it exists, there is porn of it". http://rulesoftheinternet.com/

(10-17-2018, 06:16 AM)samba99 Wrote: Shannon,

I have always benefited from your subs with lower usage. And the pattern is clear to me. And there is no difference with USLMAX.

No matter what sub, DMSI, MLS, USLM1

Always lower loops make me execute really well. While on higher loops reverse resistance and depression.

With USLMAX, today within a period of 4 hours...

I accedintly broke a good jar of chili sauce
Then I dropped a bottle of water
Then I almost got myself into car accident, I turned into an exit on a low speed about (37MPH) out of no where the car started spinning left and right and made a 270 degree spin all the way to outside the road. Likely I didn't hit anything and the car stopped (this is both extreme bad luck and good luck)

Then when I got home I almost slipped while walking.

Again I always benefited from low loops man. Can I go back to one loop a day with USLMAX? If not I am afraid I'll have only two options:
Either stop Uslm or go back to v1 (one loop)

Another interesting thing to note is I had a precognitive dream today.

(10-17-2018, 06:17 AM)Wharrgarbl Wrote:

(10-17-2018, 12:14 AM)Minititan Wrote: Last night I went to bed and used headphones and trickling stream.

Are you talking about hybrid trickling stream or regular here?

(10-17-2018, 06:06 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(10-17-2018, 12:14 AM)Minititan Wrote: Don't have a journal so I'm just putting this here. Been on USLM2 four days now. First 2 i was on holiday so I listened to ultrasonic on speakers. 3rd day had just got home so I threw on hybrid trickling stream over speakers. Haven't noticed much or anything thus far.

Last night I went to bed and used headphones and trickling stream. And I suddenly felt extremely overwhelmed by everything and I kept having mini awake dreams which were like children's fever dreams, I'm lying in bed and in my head I get images of a woman sliding out from under my bed, I feel the sensation of insects crawling all over me, I could feel the bed wobble even though I was still, I could hear bangs on the ceiling and floor and walls even though I was wearing the headphones. Not gonna lie was a little freaky. If I wasn't listening to the sub I probably would have got up and put the light on for half an hour but I was telling myself that it was just the sub trying to bring fear to the surface.

Opinions Shannon or anyone? Is that normal. Used subs for years and never experienced anything like that before. But I dunno how the fear removal module works or how it feels

Firstly, this means that you are most responsive when you use masked format.

Second, this can be two things that I can think of.

1. Your subconscious is finally processing the FRM and executing it, or maybe can no longer resist executing it, and this is simply what you experience with that happening;
2. Your subconscious is trying to get you to stop using the program by trying to scare you into quitting.

The FRM is definitely doing something. And unless you stick it out, you won't get the intended benefits. So don't stop. I suggest you continue using the masked format for the majority of your usage time unless you find another format woks better.

(10-17-2018, 07:38 AM)Minititan Wrote:

(10-17-2018, 06:17 AM)Wharrgarbl Wrote:

(10-17-2018, 12:14 AM)Minititan Wrote: Last night I went to bed and used headphones and trickling stream.

Are you talking about hybrid trickling stream or regular here?

Just regular trickling stream

(10-17-2018, 12:14 AM)Minititan Wrote: Last night I went to bed and used headphones and trickling stream.

(10-17-2018, 06:17 AM)Wharrgarbl Wrote: Are you talking about hybrid trickling stream or regular here?

(10-17-2018, 07:38 AM)Minititan Wrote: Just regular trickling stream

(10-17-2018, 07:49 AM)Wharrgarbl Wrote: Interesting, I never would have guessed regular trickling stream would do that. I guess the more powerful subs aren't always more effective. It pays to try all the versions that a sub comes in to see which one works best for the user, I'll have to remember that.

(10-17-2018, 06:16 AM)samba99 Wrote: Shannon,

I have always benefited from your subs with lower usage. And the pattern is clear to me. And there is no difference with USLMAX.

No matter what sub, DMSI, MLS, USLM1

Always lower loops make me execute really well. While on higher loops reverse resistance and depression.

With USLMAX, today within a period of 4 hours...

I accedintly broke a good jar of chili sauce
Then I dropped a bottle of water
Then I almost got myself into car accident, I turned into an exit on a low speed about (37MPH) out of no where the car started spinning left and right and made a 270 degree spin all the way to outside the road. Likely I didn't hit anything and the car stopped (this is both extreme bad luck and good luck)

Then when I got home I almost slipped while walking.

Again I always benefited from low loops man. Can I go back to one loop a day with USLMAX? If not I am afraid I'll have only two options:
Either stop Uslm or go back to v1 (one loop)

Another interesting thing to note is I had a precognitive dream today.