(07-07-2016, 03:51 PM)Hercules Wrote: Here are links to what I'm talking about

https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/249952

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/extra/daily_videos/can-trauma-be-passed-to-next-generation-through-dna/

I'm sure through the science of epigenetics this is possible

(07-07-2016, 03:10 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-07-2016, 12:34 AM)jacksonchandra Wrote: Shannon, did DMSI 2.1 still using Energy Flooding from food? Or overall from non-physical sources? Or still both?

2.1 uses only non-physical energy, which is apparently why you're seeing it be a lot less dramatic and a lot longer to power up.

The first version used food almost exclusively.

Version 2.2 will use whatever is best as a way to achieve the goal, from both physical and nonphysical sources of energy.

(07-07-2016, 03:48 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-07-2016, 03:46 PM)dissonance Wrote:

(07-07-2016, 11:22 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote:

(07-07-2016, 10:21 AM)dissonance Wrote: I went on a trip to Europe with family. Can someone update me on what's going on with this DMSI thing? Is it too late to become a tester for it?

http://www.subliminal-shop.com/product/develop-maximum-sexual-irresistibility/
From the product page:
This program is currently in TESTING status. It therefore is not eligible for a refund under ANY circumstances. If you purchase this program, you are eligible for free upgrades to the stable version in the 2.x version branch instead. Please bear this in mind when deciding whether or not to purchase this program.

Cool, what if I purchased AOSI already? Is the free upgrade to 2.0 still in order?

If you bought V1.0, you're welcome to test 2.x for free. Just download it. You should have the links on your download page. If not, ask Ben for help via e-mail to the back end.

(07-07-2016, 03:14 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-07-2016, 02:14 AM)LionKing Wrote: ...

You feel bad (guilt/shame) for getting off it?

If you are experiencing guilt and shame, still, then you are not done healing.

If you are AFRAID that you might miss your goals by using the program that is designed to remove FEAR, then you are not done being cleared of fear.

Once you get through the healing, your inward focus will shift outward again and you'll be able to do anything. It's not going to turn you into a passive bird feeder.

Think you just closed that case as to what you should be doing - but it's your call.

(07-08-2016, 12:45 AM)dissonance Wrote: Does the DMSI Goal #2 deal with removing subconscious approval seeking desires and behaviors, neediness, and caring what other people think?

(07-08-2016, 03:12 AM)Gotcha Wrote: Hey guys.

I'm on day 38 of E2, at 12-15 hrs per day. Not really noticing any effects besides a slight depression and major lack of motivation.
I read reports from fellow E2 listeners having vivid dreams and feelings of joy or happiness, but I don't recall ANY dreams or any feelings besides depression on E2. My baseline emotional state before starting E2 was normally "happy", I might add.

Hardly any interest in women, or hanging out with friends since a week into E2. Last two weeks I'm a hermit, playing videogames and wathing NetFlix in my lonesome...

In the beginning I got fatigued from listening 16+ hours, so I scaled down to 8 and worked my way up to where I can do 12+ without feeling burned out, but I'm still tired.

Is this resistance? Is E2 working for me? Should I do more/less hours? Should I be doing something to "help" E2? (I just press play, no meditation or whatever tapping is)

Gaah, I'm all over the place with these doubts and insecurities!

In short; is there a light at the end of this E2 tunnel, or am I seeing the train a comin'?

(07-08-2016, 03:20 AM)CatMan Wrote:

(07-08-2016, 03:12 AM)Gotcha Wrote: Hey guys.

I'm on day 38 of E2, at 12-15 hrs per day. Not really noticing any effects besides a slight depression and major lack of motivation.
I read reports from fellow E2 listeners having vivid dreams and feelings of joy or happiness, but I don't recall ANY dreams or any feelings besides depression on E2. My baseline emotional state before starting E2 was normally "happy", I might add.

Hardly any interest in women, or hanging out with friends since a week into E2. Last two weeks I'm a hermit, playing videogames and wathing NetFlix in my lonesome...

In the beginning I got fatigued from listening 16+ hours, so I scaled down to 8 and worked my way up to where I can do 12+ without feeling burned out, but I'm still tired.

Is this resistance? Is E2 working for me? Should I do more/less hours? Should I be doing something to "help" E2? (I just press play, no meditation or whatever tapping is)

Gaah, I'm all over the place with these doubts and insecurities!

In short; is there a light at the end of this E2 tunnel, or am I seeing the train a comin'?

That's exactly what the program seems to do...

Works under the surface, almost TOO well. The result is you not really seeing much different for a long time, and this odd, latent, crappy, depressed feeling in the background and a massive loss of motivation to do things. That's exactly my experience, too. You just seem to vegitate while it does it's thing, keep in mind lethargy is also a common form of resistance. So yes, all of us are going through the "silent monk/lone wolf" phase on E2, lol...

It took me a good 35-40 days to see some signs of tangible life from it, I guess some of us, it takes a long time, either due to resistance, or due to us not seeing what it's doing for a long time as it's subtle and under the surface mostly.

Short answer: it's exactly as it should be. Stick with it longer, and you'll see more things changing. You won't know how exactly it's changed you until you're in a situation that you struggled with in the past, and can finally have a measure to compare now versus then for progress. Until then, it'll mostly be the experience described while it does it's job.

Keep going, Don Corleone!

(07-07-2016, 03:09 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-06-2016, 11:13 PM)Hercules Wrote: Shannon, will a complete run of EPHRA erase generational trauma inherited from our DNA.

I have no knowledge of, or evidence of, there being generational trauma inherited from DNA. I therefore cannot answer that question. I would suspect that there is no such thing, and therefore the answer is no, but if that does exist, it is theoretically within the scope of the instruction set, as it uses the polymorphic Optimus Engine. And if that is within the scope of ability of the subconscious mind, which I believe it is, then if such a thing does exist, it would seem reasonable to presume that E2 could in fact make such a change happen through a willing subconscious.

(07-08-2016, 05:14 AM)Natious Wrote:

(07-08-2016, 03:20 AM)CatMan Wrote:

(07-08-2016, 03:12 AM)Gotcha Wrote: Hey guys.

I'm on day 38 of E2, at 12-15 hrs per day. Not really noticing any effects besides a slight depression and major lack of motivation.
I read reports from fellow E2 listeners having vivid dreams and feelings of joy or happiness, but I don't recall ANY dreams or any feelings besides depression on E2. My baseline emotional state before starting E2 was normally "happy", I might add.

Hardly any interest in women, or hanging out with friends since a week into E2. Last two weeks I'm a hermit, playing videogames and wathing NetFlix in my lonesome...

In the beginning I got fatigued from listening 16+ hours, so I scaled down to 8 and worked my way up to where I can do 12+ without feeling burned out, but I'm still tired.

Is this resistance? Is E2 working for me? Should I do more/less hours? Should I be doing something to "help" E2? (I just press play, no meditation or whatever tapping is)

Gaah, I'm all over the place with these doubts and insecurities!

In short; is there a light at the end of this E2 tunnel, or am I seeing the train a comin'?

That's exactly what the program seems to do...

Works under the surface, almost TOO well. The result is you not really seeing much different for a long time, and this odd, latent, crappy, depressed feeling in the background and a massive loss of motivation to do things. That's exactly my experience, too. You just seem to vegitate while it does it's thing, keep in mind lethargy is also a common form of resistance. So yes, all of us are going through the "silent monk/lone wolf" phase on E2, lol...

It took me a good 35-40 days to see some signs of tangible life from it, I guess some of us, it takes a long time, either due to resistance, or due to us not seeing what it's doing for a long time as it's subtle and under the surface mostly.

Short answer: it's exactly as it should be. Stick with it longer, and you'll see more things changing. You won't know how exactly it's changed you until you're in a situation that you struggled with in the past, and can finally have a measure to compare now versus then for progress. Until then, it'll mostly be the experience described while it does it's job.

Keep going, Don Corleone!

Instead of being this incredibly painful journey to heal, it's way more stable low mood, until it starts going back up again. I couldn't even begin to imagine how hard it would be to deal with those things without E2, on my own. Today I'm having a quite relaxed and positive day after a long time of feeling depressed. It will get better for you too!

The waves and severity of the depression seems to vary from person to person. I am actually quite glad that these things get dealt with under the surface, doing this consciously could be quite painful and hard.