(10-05-2018, 05:20 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(10-05-2018, 05:06 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(10-05-2018, 04:52 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(10-05-2018, 04:11 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: I wonder if switching it from "As much sex as the user will allow" to "as much sex as the user wants" would be a useful change.

And you think anyone would really allow more sex than they want when they're using that as a loophole to shutdown execution?

It's not about that. It's about preventing the fear from shutting down how much the dominant part of them wants and allows sex.

I’m not following. My idea is sex on demand instead of catch it while it’s there. The latter is scarcity and still puts the woman in the drivers seat. I imagine even the beta chode has as much sex as he’ll allow. doesnt mean it’s being offered though does it?

You're definitely not following. People are using that to shut down execution by not allowing any sex. Out of fear. When they have no real reason otherwise to do so. People who are free and clear to have sex with whomever offers. And are getting offers. Which they do not allow. Because of fear.

The idea is that you have an abundance of offers of sex and interested parties, and you decide who, when, where and how much.

But switching it to "as much sex as the user wants" does and changes nothing in this case, because the user's dominant desire is what they already have, or it wouldn't be what they already have. And in almost all cases of resistance on this point, it will be because the dominant part of them desires not to have sex, and it is dominating the will of their conscious desire to have sex. In some cases, it is even dominating their conscious awareness that they even want sex.

So no amount of alpha or beta or whatever is going to matter. What you allow of what you're being offered is what you want. And what you're being offered is an entirely different thing. The whole goal of DMSI is sex on demand.

(10-11-2018, 09:28 AM)Shadow2200 Wrote:

(10-05-2018, 05:20 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(10-05-2018, 05:06 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(10-05-2018, 04:52 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(10-05-2018, 04:11 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: I wonder if switching it from "As much sex as the user will allow" to "as much sex as the user wants" would be a useful change.

And you think anyone would really allow more sex than they want when they're using that as a loophole to shutdown execution?

It's not about that. It's about preventing the fear from shutting down how much the dominant part of them wants and allows sex.

I’m not following. My idea is sex on demand instead of catch it while it’s there. The latter is scarcity and still puts the woman in the drivers seat. I imagine even the beta chode has as much sex as he’ll allow. doesnt mean it’s being offered though does it?

You're definitely not following. People are using that to shut down execution by not allowing any sex. Out of fear. When they have no real reason otherwise to do so. People who are free and clear to have sex with whomever offers. And are getting offers. Which they do not allow. Because of fear.

The idea is that you have an abundance of offers of sex and interested parties, and you decide who, when, where and how much.

But switching it to "as much sex as the user wants" does and changes nothing in this case, because the user's dominant desire is what they already have, or it wouldn't be what they already have. And in almost all cases of resistance on this point, it will be because the dominant part of them desires not to have sex, and it is dominating the will of their conscious desire to have sex. In some cases, it is even dominating their conscious awareness that they even want sex.

So no amount of alpha or beta or whatever is going to matter. What you allow of what you're being offered is what you want. And what you're being offered is an entirely different thing. The whole goal of DMSI is sex on demand.

Hopefully this fear mod can do the trick for demi 3.3. Could use some sex on demand about now.

(10-11-2018, 08:41 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(10-11-2018, 08:24 AM)wolverine_i_am Wrote:

Quote:I wouldn't switch over too soon if you want your results to be valid for me to use as data. How would we know which sub did what?

So then I'll wait for 3.3 to be a valid tester for that.

I want to be a valid tester but I can't stop using DMSI cause the celebrity effect helps in sales. Unfortunate that your program is so useful Shannon

Still, wish I could be valid to help move it in the direction it needs to go. Oh well.

(10-11-2018, 09:33 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(10-11-2018, 09:28 AM)Shadow2200 Wrote:

(10-05-2018, 05:20 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(10-05-2018, 05:06 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(10-05-2018, 04:52 AM)Shannon Wrote: And you think anyone would really allow more sex than they want when they're using that as a loophole to shutdown execution?

It's not about that. It's about preventing the fear from shutting down how much the dominant part of them wants and allows sex.

I’m not following. My idea is sex on demand instead of catch it while it’s there. The latter is scarcity and still puts the woman in the drivers seat. I imagine even the beta chode has as much sex as he’ll allow. doesnt mean it’s being offered though does it?

You're definitely not following. People are using that to shut down execution by not allowing any sex. Out of fear. When they have no real reason otherwise to do so. People who are free and clear to have sex with whomever offers. And are getting offers. Which they do not allow. Because of fear.

The idea is that you have an abundance of offers of sex and interested parties, and you decide who, when, where and how much.

But switching it to "as much sex as the user wants" does and changes nothing in this case, because the user's dominant desire is what they already have, or it wouldn't be what they already have. And in almost all cases of resistance on this point, it will be because the dominant part of them desires not to have sex, and it is dominating the will of their conscious desire to have sex. In some cases, it is even dominating their conscious awareness that they even want sex.

So no amount of alpha or beta or whatever is going to matter. What you allow of what you're being offered is what you want. And what you're being offered is an entirely different thing. The whole goal of DMSI is sex on demand.

Hopefully this fear mod can do the trick for demi 3.3. Could use some sex on demand about now.

In light of this post by Shannon, very curious how he sees the latest online girl I posted in my journal. My fear or hers? If hers, what do we have planned for affected-side fear removal?

(10-11-2018, 11:32 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(10-11-2018, 08:41 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(10-11-2018, 08:24 AM)wolverine_i_am Wrote:

Quote:I wouldn't switch over too soon if you want your results to be valid for me to use as data. How would we know which sub did what?

So then I'll wait for 3.3 to be a valid tester for that.

I want to be a valid tester but I can't stop using DMSI cause the celebrity effect helps in sales. Unfortunate that your program is so useful Shannon

Still, wish I could be valid to help move it in the direction it needs to go. Oh well.

Switching from (Not DMSI) to DMSI is going to produce a lotless useful data than (3.2) to (3.3). You know what 3.2 was doing, and you will be able to see the difference better. It's best to do no DMSI and no subs for the 35 days before, but still, 3.2 --> 3.3 is going to give us somewhat more valid data than (not DMSI) to DMSI.

Glad you're enjoying the celeb effect. I suspect that DMSI final is going to be very hard for most people to stop using for one reason or another along those lines.

(10-11-2018, 11:47 AM)Tigerismyspirit Wrote: Shannon, I've been on MLS since August 28 (I took a 32-day break from DMSI) and the H/C seems to be DMSI-like. It's not as intense as DMSI h/c but still it makes me shed tears and I do have the something-is-stuck-in-my stomach feeling. Other than that, the learning part hasn't improved at all and the procrastination seems to have gone up. Celebrity effect from DMSI is there no more. I have used two 5.5G subs (DMSI and MLS). Before that I used Overcome Approach Anxiety (I think that was 4g) for a couple of weeks prior to switching to DMSI. It's been a year I've been with IML and I didn't have sex on DMSI after trying it for 9 months. I don't want to stop MLS before giving it a three month time. However, why am I resisting your sub? Any insight?

(10-11-2018, 11:47 AM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: Regarding the celeb effect, since I've been off subs for over a month now, it's definitely not there anymore. When I was on 3.2, it was mass attraction off the roof. Clear as crystal. I even thought that was the normal me. But once I'm off the subs, you can def see it was the subs doing the heavy lifting. Keen to see how crazy 3.3 will be.

(10-11-2018, 11:59 AM)Broski Wrote: Hey Shannon,

Would it be possible to design a sub to lead to enlightenment or the continuous expansion of ones consciousness to the point of transcending the limitations of the mine and experiencing "oneness" with all? Or does the fact that subliminals are directly working with the mind and awareness is beyond the logical mind prevent such a thing from being possible?