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RE: NG: The Solution to your Women Issues - RainbowAbyss - 01-16-2017
Geodude, its awesome your getting success with that!
In my experience/understanding NG
simply represents actual female attraction, flirtation, and sexual response.
Like how a woman would treat you if she was crushing on you or really into you.
Watching it is like soaking in the energy of that. There's plenty of more western
videos that are out there if you know what to look for have similar energy/response.
This is opposed to a socialized response, or a fantasy sexual response
like one might see in porn. Its like wiring yourself to automatically see that flirty, feminine,
expressive, authentically sexually, sweet side in woman. This brings it out of woman, because your
showing up as a space for them to become there most feminine selves.
I've done it consistently at points, and my success and comfort around woman, even really attractive woman, has gone way up. In fact I'm going to do 21 day challenge of it again.
Geodude, do you create your own tapping scripts or have a resource for it?
RE: NG: The Solution to your Women Issues - changer - 01-17-2017
Better just use NG 2.0. Some may call it porn, but if you watch naked women having sex all day it gives you a feeling of abundance. There are some videos about it on youtube.
RE: NG: The Solution to your Women Issues - JackOfHearts - 01-17-2017
(01-16-2017, 10:34 AM)Geodude Wrote: I personally know of guys who did NG for a while and got no results. Objectively, these guys were virgins, they lived with their parents, and had low self-esteem. They're the biggest critics of it.
When I started sub I was a virgin, I was living with my parents and I had low self-esteem.
I guess that explains why I didn't got results with NG
I just used sub and it started to changed
It makes me laugh when I read on the pherotruth forum that Alpha360 got results with subs because he wasn't a virgin when he started. I don't know where they got that idea, must be the SM3 aura influencing them.
RE: NG: The Solution to your Women Issues - Geodude - 01-17-2017
(01-17-2017, 12:14 AM)changer Wrote: Better just use NG 2.0. Some may call it porn, but if you watch naked women having sex all day it gives you a feeling of abundance. There are some videos about it on youtube.
Lol wtf are you talking about
You're actually watching another guy banging a chick you want, so technically you're being cuckolded.
RE: NG: The Solution to your Women Issues - Geodude - 01-17-2017
(01-17-2017, 05:38 AM)Alpha360 Wrote:(01-16-2017, 10:34 AM)Geodude Wrote: I personally know of guys who did NG for a while and got no results. Objectively, these guys were virgins, they lived with their parents, and had low self-esteem. They're the biggest critics of it.
When I started sub I was a virgin, I was living with my parents and I had low self-esteem.
I guess that explains why I didn't got results with NG
I just used sub and it started to changed
It makes me laugh when I read on the pherotruth forum that Alpha360 got results with subs because he wasn't a virgin when he started. I don't know where they got that idea, must be the SM3 aura influencing them.
Sorry buddy. I wasn't even thinking of you when I wrote that. I was there at one point, too. In fact, when I did NG the first time I was a virgin and was living in poverty.
Anybody that hates on you on other forums are just frustrated losers. Don't pay any attention to them.
RE: NG: The Solution to your Women Issues - Geodude - 01-17-2017
(01-16-2017, 10:31 PM)RainbowAbyss Wrote: Geodude, its awesome your getting success with that!
In my experience/understanding NG
simply represents actual female attraction, flirtation, and sexual response.
Like how a woman would treat you if she was crushing on you or really into you.
Watching it is like soaking in the energy of that. There's plenty of more western
videos that are out there if you know what to look for have similar energy/response.
This is opposed to a socialized response, or a fantasy sexual response
like one might see in porn. Its like wiring yourself to automatically see that flirty, feminine,
expressive, authentically sexually, sweet side in woman. This brings it out of woman, because your
showing up as a space for them to become there most feminine selves.
I've done it consistently at points, and my success and comfort around woman, even really attractive woman, has gone way up. In fact I'm going to do 21 day challenge of it again.
Geodude, do you create your own tapping scripts or have a resource for it?
Fucking finally. Someone who gets it!
I don't create tapping scripts. All I do is tap to release the meaning of stuff. Because it's not the event that causes you issues, it's the meaning you give it. So when you erase the meaning, the problem disappears.
RE: NG: The Solution to your Women Issues - Geodude - 01-17-2017
(01-16-2017, 11:04 AM)Travis Wrote: Are there any other videos besides Asian women dancing? I feel like an old creep watching that shit.
This made me laugh.
That's exactly what I said when I first started out. I was like, "This is gay." "Wtf is this shit." etc.
I agree, to the uninitiated, it seems fucking weird. I get it, I'm a regular dude with a regular job and there's no way I could explain this shit to my coworkers.
I'd recommend going to www.naturalgrounding.net and going through the course.
He explains it pretty good on there.
Just know, when you get emotional about the videos. (Again, I realize how fucking weird that sounds), that's when the magic will start happening.
RE: NG: The Solution to your Women Issues - Geodude - 01-17-2017
Day 16 of NG/NoFap
and guess what?
Women are approaching me again!
I figured it out. You have to 100% give up wanting anything from women. I thought I understood that before, but I was missing something.
Read this post: http://relationalmastery.com/amember/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=306
He explains it perfectly.
If that doesn't 100% click with you, then keep doing NG and NoFap. And hell, throw in 15 minutes of meditation a day, while you're at it.
RE: NG: The Solution to your Women Issues - JackOfHearts - 01-17-2017
(01-17-2017, 11:03 AM)Geodude Wrote:No offense taken, I don't see them as losers, just that they got the wrong idea about me because I changed so much in a short amount of time. I can understand that it's hard to believe.(01-17-2017, 05:38 AM)Alpha360 Wrote:(01-16-2017, 10:34 AM)Geodude Wrote: I personally know of guys who did NG for a while and got no results. Objectively, these guys were virgins, they lived with their parents, and had low self-esteem. They're the biggest critics of it.
When I started sub I was a virgin, I was living with my parents and I had low self-esteem.
I guess that explains why I didn't got results with NG
I just used sub and it started to changed
It makes me laugh when I read on the pherotruth forum that Alpha360 got results with subs because he wasn't a virgin when he started. I don't know where they got that idea, must be the SM3 aura influencing them.
Sorry buddy. I wasn't even thinking of you when I wrote that. I was there at one point, too. In fact, when I did NG the first time I was a virgin and was living in poverty.
Anybody that hates on you on other forums are just frustrated losers. Don't pay any attention to them.
Actually the guy who said that was trying to help as they were comparing phero to sub and most phero users who don't get laid before using phero usually don't after using phero. At least it's what they believe.
I think it's mostly a limiting belief and that it's more complicated than that.
Being a virgin is just one variable. For example there is the social guy who is a virgin who get along with a lot of people and there is the virgin who has a lot of social anxieties. That makes a bigger difference than having your dick wet by accident. People put too much emphasis on virginity, like it means everything when it means so little.
For example some guys are dating their girlfriend for like 2 year and never have sex with her.
That kind of virgin will surely have a easier time to lose it if he is willing to.
The "Living with your parents" is another stupidity to me, like it is actually important, even Brad Pitt could live with his parents for a while and it wouldn't mean anything. In some country some people live with their parents all their life, they don't seem to have a problem with it. Maybe one day I will make 10k a month and I will live with my parents just for fun.
RE: NG: The Solution to your Women Issues - CatMan - 01-19-2017
Hello Geodude!
I am very intrigued by this natural grounding thing. It sounds very similar to what porn does to the brain, they're both causing effects to it in opposite fashions. I know all too well about the damage porn causes...it's taken me over a year to get somewhat proper erections again while standing (the type of erection which takes the longest to come back btw to all reading), while sitting erections took 9 months to have any real size and strength to them. The damage porn causes is extreme and often in the background for a long time, people have no idea until they're so deep it takes so long to heal from it and become sexually aroused normally again to a normal woman and sexual situation. I'm convinced there could be merit to this natural grounding since it sounds like the other side of porn's coin, seems logical it can work if there's commitment to it.
I will commit to this technique during my rest period from DMSI. That means I will be starting in the next few minutes, as today is my first rest day. I will commit more than 20 minutes a day, maybe a couple hours, due to the fact that I will probably only have a few weeks before V3.1 comes out. So I will give it more usage to give it a chance. It sounds like something that can fix my exact issues with women.
I have kicked porn out of my life over a year ago, fapping over a year ago, so I seem well primed for this. Should be intriguing!
Thank you for posting this for the community's benefit.
RE: NG: The Solution to your Women Issues - JackOfHearts - 01-19-2017
I don't get why people don't get that NG is like hypnosis and you shouldn't use any other mind programming stuff with subs.
From the FAQ:
Quote:Can I use your subliminals with those made by other companies, or hypnosis, etc?
I once got an e-mail from someone who was having a negative result from the free self confidence program. This person broke two key rules for using subliminals. I would like to make it very clear here, because it’s apparent that they did not know these rules to using subliminals.
Rule #1: DO NOT mix subliminals from different producers!
I cannot emphasize this enough! Different producers use different scripting techniques. Different techniques based on different levels of understanding of the subconscious mind, and techniques which are often kept secret because of trade secret. Different techniques which may cause unpredictable results, including negative results. Don’t mix programs from different producers, and don’t use programs from more than one producer within 32 days of each other.
This brings up the question of scripting methodology. Can even a properly scripted program cause a bad response after being used by someone who has been using an improperly scripted program? Yes. This is why you never ever mix subliminals by different producers.
In other words, to be perfectly clear: if you use subliminals from producer X, you should never use subliminals from any other producer unless you have been at LEAST 32 days without using ANY subliminals at all. (And if you’ve been using the subs produced by X for a long time (more than 32 days), a good 90 day wait without using subs is in order. Then you should be able to use subliminalss by producer Y without a problem.
Rule #2: If you use a subliminal that causes you increased stress, distress, upset, anxiety, or any other negative response – and you have been using subliminals from multiple producers within 30 days of each other – immediately stop using the program that is triggering the negative responses, and seriously consider stopping ALL subliminals for 30 to 90 days to allow the conflicting programming to be released.
If you’re having anxiety, upset, stress, fear responses, etc. from a program and it’s not due to potential producer scripting technique conflict (and hypnosis is another possible cause for this conflict), then you have to evaluate the situation a little differently.
Are you having these results because you’re just working through the negativity holding you back, or are you having the responses as a form of resistance that is going to produce potentially life threatening depression? If you think it is the latter, stop using the program(s) immediately.
We don’t want anything but the best for you, but you can’t have it both ways. If you like my stuff, use my stuff, but don’t use my stuff and someone else’s. Likewise vice versa. You stand a good chance of messing yourself up by mixing production and scripting techniques.
I know mine are properly scripted, and that’s a large part of why I both post the scripts for all to see whenever I can, and why I am so insistent that you not mix producers: I don’t want my stuff to look bad because someone else isn’t using proper (or compatible) scripting methods, and I don’t want anyone getting hurt because of someone else’s mistakes (which I cannot do anything about) or incompatible techniques!
Concerning mixing hypnosis, EFT or NLP with subliminals:
Do not use any method to attempt to achieve incompatible goals at the same time. Also do not using multiple methods together unless you know what the scripts for all are, and you know for sure that they do not conflict in goal, result or scripting methods.
This is old so the 32 days rules is probably outdated with 5.5G making it even more important to not mix before a rest period of 32 days.
RE: NG: The Solution to your Women Issues - JackOfHearts - 01-19-2017
NG certainly did help with porn though, I remember I lost all interest for porn while using NG.
I do get normal erection even when I'm on porn though, and I certainly didn't need to wait 9 month to get a normal erection. My guess is that you are hypnotising yourself Catman while looking at what porn do to your brain and it actually does it because you are believing it, then you add fear, anxiety on top, making it a self fulling prophesy. That's why I don't want to read website like Brain on porn and other stuff that are limiting to your mind. While Porn could cause some effects I don't believe it is this problematic unless you really believe it is.
RE: NG: The Solution to your Women Issues - CatMan - 01-19-2017
It's odd but over time you become sexually attracted to women through a screen in porn, and not in real life anymore. Even women around me that I thought of as objectively attractive, my penis wouldn't even so much as budge when they were with me, dressed sexy, up against me, touching me...you name it and pretty much zero response from the penis. And I had trouble seeing any kind of real world IOIs, because I was so used to seeing ridiculous over-the-top porn-fueled IOIs, still struggle with this part. I was actually worried about being in a situation where I could've had sex with a girl due to this, because I knew I had PIED, pornography-induced erectile dysfunction (that ED drugs can't fix mind you, as those fix problems in the penis, whereas this one is in the brain) that I knew would take a very long time to heal and it has. But throw on one of my favourite porn videos though, and I could, with increasingly amounts of effort over time, get some kind of erection. It's very strange, and only became a phenomenon with streaming porn. Stuff like Playboy was not capable of causing this effect. I think because the pictures require imagination from your part, whereas you're a cuckholded voyeur in video porn, creating deep-rooted deservedness issues and pedestalisation, self esteem problems with women etc. Many doctors still doubt it's real, but my sexual interest in real life women compared to virtual ones, and my penis being incapable of an erection due to porn use, is real life proof enough for me. Trust me, porn is bad news...I thought it was harmless too, but it was doing it's damage in the background. Dr. Wilson who runs yourbrainonporn.com says that guys typically only take action with porn once they notice erection problems. I had erection problems for awhile, but didn't know of the connection to porn until a member here posted a video called "The Great Porn Experiment" from Dr. Wilson. It explained my troubles in clear detail with zero doubt. That day, quit porn. I'm now clean for 586 days
.More people are wising up over time though. I suspect in time, it will be made illegal. Which is good anyway, it did nothing for me but screw my mind up and help cause me serious problems with women.
Anyway, I don't wish to derail this thread further. I'll give NG a try now since I'm on rest from DMSI anyway.
RE: NG: The Solution to your Women Issues - JackOfHearts - 01-19-2017
You didn't get what I said previously you should wait at least 32 days before using any other brain programming tools. Having use both hypnosis and NG I can tell you they are similar. I doubt that a change which occur within a 3 to 5 days period is not some kind of hypnosis. To me NG is, they are using another name and it's mostly visual but there is hypnosis in it to me. EFT is another kind of hypnosis too, there are just using different method but it's the same basis (a mind programming tool) under a different name. There was another one to that came up recently with a different name supposedly better than EFT, it's all the same, it's hypnosis remastered. Doesn't mean it's less effective and more effective, it's just another form of hypnosis to me.
Here is another version of hypnosis right here, under a different name;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NABdmjaUwbE
If you have studied hypnosis or NLP (yet another name) you can recognize right away that they are using it. You have the screen that is formed like an eye sleeping to put you in trance, the word they use, tell you to close your eyes, remember a past experience etc, even the fast motion is part of it at end. But they are using the term Auditioning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4ALoW_yppI
Also maybe in Porn they are also using subtle hypnosis trigger that actresses does, over time the trigger has more impact so maybe a part of population is more impacted by this erectile problem. Maybe they use some fear trigger or a trigger linked to pleasure, that's maybe why it's more effective on a part of the population and not others.
With the porn industry earning so much money I wouldn't be surprised that some of them are using NLP to get people more addicted.