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RE: Rayhons DMSI 2.2 I want the whole CAKE! Journal - Shannon - 08-14-2016
(08-14-2016, 04:08 PM)THolt Wrote:(08-14-2016, 03:55 PM)Shannon Wrote: Sounds like it would be worth releasing 2.3 and 2.4 as a 2 stage set. 2.4 could be stage 1, and 2.3 stage 2. Of course we still have to see 2.3 actually perform, but that's coming soon enough.
Will there ever be a "final" version of DSMI or will you keep tinkering with it even when you start developing it in 6G?
I'm going to do everything I can do to make it achieve the design goals.* Once it's in full 6G, there's not likely to be much more I can do with it than that - but if there is, I may be willing to rebuild it, depending on how much free time I have. 6G is aimed at being the absolute best possible technology set I can create. And let me tell you, based on what I am seeing just from P4 alone, I think we are looking at it being a good bet that DMSI in 6G will achieve the design goals if they are at all possible to achieve.
EDIT: * Within the boundaries of not directly manipulating someone's ability to make their own free-will decisions.
RE: Rayhons DMSI 2.2 I want the whole CAKE! Journal - THolt - 08-14-2016
(08-14-2016, 06:39 PM)Shannon Wrote:(08-14-2016, 04:08 PM)THolt Wrote:(08-14-2016, 03:55 PM)Shannon Wrote: Sounds like it would be worth releasing 2.3 and 2.4 as a 2 stage set. 2.4 could be stage 1, and 2.3 stage 2. Of course we still have to see 2.3 actually perform, but that's coming soon enough.
Will there ever be a "final" version of DSMI or will you keep tinkering with it even when you start developing it in 6G?
I'm going to do everything I can do to make it achieve the design goals.* Once it's in full 6G, there's not likely to be much more I can do with it than that - but if there is, I may be willing to rebuild it, depending on how much free time I have. 6G is aimed at being the absolute best possible technology set I can create. And let me tell you, based on what I am seeing just from P4 alone, I think we are looking at it being a good bet that DMSI in 6G will achieve the design goals if they are at all possible to achieve.
EDIT: * Within the boundaries of not directly manipulating someone's ability to make their own free-will decisions.
I think the 6G version of every program will be the best
RE: Rayhons DMSI 2.2 I want the whole CAKE! Journal - Shannon - 08-14-2016
(08-14-2016, 06:51 PM)THolt Wrote:(08-14-2016, 06:39 PM)Shannon Wrote:(08-14-2016, 04:08 PM)THolt Wrote:(08-14-2016, 03:55 PM)Shannon Wrote: Sounds like it would be worth releasing 2.3 and 2.4 as a 2 stage set. 2.4 could be stage 1, and 2.3 stage 2. Of course we still have to see 2.3 actually perform, but that's coming soon enough.
Will there ever be a "final" version of DSMI or will you keep tinkering with it even when you start developing it in 6G?
I'm going to do everything I can do to make it achieve the design goals.* Once it's in full 6G, there's not likely to be much more I can do with it than that - but if there is, I may be willing to rebuild it, depending on how much free time I have. 6G is aimed at being the absolute best possible technology set I can create. And let me tell you, based on what I am seeing just from P4 alone, I think we are looking at it being a good bet that DMSI in 6G will achieve the design goals if they are at all possible to achieve.
EDIT: * Within the boundaries of not directly manipulating someone's ability to make their own free-will decisions.
I think the 6G version of every program will be the best
That would seem a logical conclusion.
RE: Rayhons DMSI 2.2 I want the whole CAKE! Journal - CatMan - 08-15-2016
(08-14-2016, 07:08 PM)Shannon Wrote:(08-14-2016, 06:51 PM)THolt Wrote: I think the 6G version of every program will be the best
That would seem a logical conclusion.
I bet some guys will still go on about AM5 after AM7 comes out and go on and on about "no pain no gain" and all that nonsense, lmao.
Your response about having two versions, one balls out and no refunds, one as smooth as possible with refunds, was hilarious to me. Great points in that post.
RE: Rayhons DMSI 2.2 I want the whole CAKE! Journal - Raykon - 08-15-2016
Messaged that phoenix girl again to confirm plans for the weekend. Told her i'm going to bring her to the beach & she said she works all weekend and is going away for a few weeks.
She did say that that sounds like allot of fun and that "for sure" we will do it when she gets back.
I can't tell if she's rejecting me nicely or genuinely is going on vacation. She didn't add me on FB but she did respond to my messages with enthusiasm and give me her number. It's honestly hit or miss. The initial interaction wasn't as great as it could have been because I was stoned & I become very emotional when high.
In my last post I mention that we already had a date planned for the weekend but I never actually had confirmed plans with her. I just said to her that "I'll prob give you a shout next weekend".
So it was a miscommunication on my part.
Oh and the young women did give me her number over FB during that conversation and when I did talk to her in person that one time at the end when I said bye to her I know for a fact she was attracted to me based on her very red cheeks/face and shy response.
I actually was very alpha that day even though I was high which is rare. Weed usually gives me major social anxiety but at that day I didn't feel any.
This may be a sign of the healing from DMSI because weed makes me insecure 99 percent of the time and lately I'm able to do things I feared/hated to do before while stoned. like interact with people, or drive my car.
I will try contacting Phoenix in a few weeks. I am not upset at the potential rejected but it's a little disappointing because I don't meet allot of women I'm attracted too.. I'm not taking it personal. I feel like if she doesn't agree it's based on the fact that I didn't have any 1 on 1 time to properly seduce and get intimate and or deep with her. I'm much better at attraction women when I'm one on one with them. I didn't talk to her much during our initial interaction.
Honestly the fact that I have a phoenix tattoo on my arm and her name is phoenix makes me want to date/bang her. I'm romantic/superstitious like that.
I'm also logical and realistic though and know that she may not be the right type of girl for me and I have no idea what her maturity level or interests are. I can only date a women I am stimulated both mentally and physically.
Physically, she's pretty hot. I love snow bunnies.
MAYBE the reason she hasn't added me on FB is because I know her brother and she doesn't want her older brother to know were talking/hanging out.
But again. that's just a guess and I could very well be wrong.
Before Alpha male and the other subliminals a situation like this would be on my mind 95 percent of the day and I'd be obsessing about it and ONEITIS with the girl. Thank god I discovered subliminals because the person I used to be in makes me sad thinking about it. I feel so powerful and manly compared to my former self. It feels great to have high self esteem and NOT obsess about stupid things like a women I don't know yet.
I have another girl I might go out with. She likes me for sure again and she's waiting on me to ask her out. For some reason I don't feel like it. But if SHE asks me out I will accept and take her out.
I know she likes me because she keeps sending me seductive snap chats and because 2 years ago this chick was obsessed with me. ( I ended up hurting her and ignoring her after our first date (which btw went REALLY well)
The reason I ignored her at the time was because she was really needy and i was low self esteem and not ready to handle a relationship.
I really feel like i'm more then ready for a relationship right now. I'm very healthy emotionally now.
RE: Rayhons DMSI 2.2 I want the whole CAKE! Journal - Raykon - 08-18-2016
It's been a few days since I played any loops. I did notice my aura was still strong today.
To be fair though I spent 8 hours doing construction working out so after work I felt unbelievable.
I was walking around transit without my shirt on because I used my shirt as a snot rag at work because I had dust and sweat in my eyes and nose.
I had a 10/10 tall SEXY older women in here early 30's "approach me"
We were actually standing beside eachother at a cross walk waiting to cross. She tried walking across and i tried too and she went back because the cars came. She said something unimportant but I ignored it.
She then looked at me and said "nice sleeve" and was talking about my half sleeve phoenix tattoo.
I then started immediately talking about the story behind the tattoo. I noticed I wasn't fazed by her beauty at all. She seemed a little shocked at my sudden social ability because initially I was looking aggressive/cold (my natural stare is very aggressive unless I'm really happy or thinking about something funny)
during my speaking to her I think she was in her head. She didn't seem comfortable or natural.
I then said take care and when she said bye to me in the look of her eyes and the way she said bye I could tell she was definitely attracted at that point. up until she said bye I didn't notice any IoI from her micro expressions on her face.
The only IoI before her saying bye is that she initiated conversation with me.
RE: Rayhons DMSI 2.2 I want the whole CAKE! Journal - Raykon - 08-19-2016
I noticed ever since doing Dmsi I've messaged young women I met once or twice recently on facebook and ask them out on dates.
I only did this twice before in my life and only when I was crazy for a girl never just random chicks I want to bang and don't know mentally yet.
I like it though. It opens up more opportunities. I had one rejection, I found out that phoenix chick lied about going away for few weeks. She has a crush on some guy. I know the guy he told me she wanted to "cuddle" with him tomorrow. He doesn't like her though he's just friends with her. (girls want what they cant have)
Honestly didn't get upset at all. I had about 5 percent dissapointment in my mind after but no emotional reaction or negative thoughts or insecure thoughts occured after I found out she lied.
I laughed and brushed it off (literally) and just figured because the initial interactio wasn't that solid for a few reasons, 1) I was stoned 2) I barely spoke to her only 1 or 2 sentences. 3) she was with that guy that she's known for a long time and really likes.
I feel like if she did go out with me she would like me allot. I'm great at talking to women when I'm sober. Not when I'm high though.
RE: Rayhons DMSI 2.2 I want the whole CAKE! Journal - Raykon - 08-19-2016
The only thing that doesn't make sense to me though is that Phoenix did give me her number and say shes coming back in two weeks and that "that sounds fun!" ..
Wierd rejection or maybe I still have a chance? I'l try again in 2 weeks maybe.
I really want to put myself in more situations to meet women.
RE: Rayhons DMSI 2.2 I want the whole CAKE! Journal - Sickologist - 08-20-2016
Every girl has a window of availability. That's why I never care about "rejection". That's why I also never cross out any names on the list so to speak.
She's not saying no, she's saying not right now. In other words, you're her second choice which kinda sucks but it's how the game works. If the other dude doesn't pull the trigger, it's back on.
I'd just wait a couple of weeks and then see about it. You're definitely having the right mentality, not being so damn sensitive and unaware like most guys are and keep talking to other girls. It can be frustrating, I remember this chick at a college party who violently rejected me and then a couple of weeks later she flashed her tits at me from her apartment window and signallled for me to take the elevator. Once I got up she said "I'm not a sl*t" which was a compliment from her. I didn't understand it then, but later it all made sense.
RE: Rayhons DMSI 2.2 I want the whole CAKE! Journal - Raykon - 08-20-2016
This young women who I met twice in the last few weeks while I was hanging out with some friends.
I messaged her yesterday on fb saying
"Hey (name). I think you're cute & you seem like a nice girl. You down to do something on Sunday? I was thinking we go to Kitsalano & chill at the beach get some food if we want.. What's your number?"
I woke up to see she blocked me and ignored my message.
I don't understand why you can't act normal to allot of women nowadays. I would have probably had better result if I resorted to playing games and being manipulative and acting immature.
I remember when I used to play PUA mind games with chicks I had good results. That is probably the #1 thing I hate about women. That they want what they can't have and that most of them are unhealthy nowadays when it comes to relationships.
I have a buddy that treats women like shit and the shit he says embarresses me. I would feel like a fucking pussy and scumbag to say the shit he says. He purposely does it. He himself is insecure and can't keep a relationship but he gets laid allot. He isn't able to have a healthy relationship when he actually likes someone though and he always gets dumped.
I don't and will not resort to being manipulative and childish to get women. This women is 18 so she's probably very immature.
To be honest I was a little upset that she blocked me. I don't take it personally but it's upsetting that she completely ignored my totally chill and normal message to her.
I don't think I would be upset at all if she just responded saying something like "Sorry I'm not interested in dating anyone atm"
COME ON 2.3 LETS FUCKING DO THIS I WANT TO GET THAT CAKE OF MINE AND EAT IT (if you know what I mean ;p)
I have a pretty healthy young romanian 18 year old that want's to see me but for some reason I'm not feeling like hanging out with her. She sends me sexy snapchats and is waiting for me to ask her out again. We went out 2 years ago once and I ended up ignoring her.
So I could probably bang her if I tried but I don't want to force attraction. If she asks me out though I will go on the date because I want to see if she's worthy of my affection and time & I might like her.
tbh i prefer white women and she looks spanish. I don't know why I love snow bunnies so much. (especially pure europeans not Canadian/USA)
RE: Rayhons DMSI 2.2 I want the whole CAKE! Journal - 4Kingdoms - 08-20-2016
(08-20-2016, 08:38 AM)Rayhon Wrote: To be honest I was a little upset that she blocked me. I don't take it personally but it's upsetting that she completely ignored my totally chill and normal message to her.
Okay, so you understand the honest approach doesn't work. So why attempt it?? You aren't the only one this has happened to.
Besides, once 2.3 is released. You will have more attention from women than you can handle!!
RE: Rayhons DMSI 2.2 I want the whole CAKE! Journal - Sickologist - 08-20-2016
Why didn't you ask her out in person instead, while you were hanging out? Or just seperate her from the group. Their bodies don't lie, man.
Can you give some examples of what your buddy says to girls?
PS, the so called "honest approach" (not sure how honest it is) works. In fact, it's been working for men over the entire world for centuries.
And in my experience, it's more that they seek out a guy who are higher status than them. Some dude playing hard to get or teasing girls are often mistaken for higher status.
RE: Rayhons DMSI 2.2 I want the whole CAKE! Journal - Raykon - 08-20-2016
(08-20-2016, 09:01 AM)Sickologist Wrote: Why didn't you ask her out in person instead, while you were hanging out? Or just seperate her from the group. Their bodies don't lie, man.
Can you give some examples of what your buddy says to girls?
PS, the so called "honest approach" (not sure how honest it is) works. In fact, it's been working for men over the entire world for centuries.
And in my experience, it's more that they seek out a guy who are higher status than them. Some dude playing hard to get or teasing girls are often mistaken for higher status.
I didn't think to ask her out in person or even realize she's someone I'd want to date until I went home & thought about it for the next few days.
Before she responded to message on facebook I was thinking that if I saw her again in person I would seperate her from the group and ask her out.
You're definitely right, that would have been more effective as it shows more confidence.
I think the "honest approach" works really well in daygame and street approaches. I used to go around picking up women when I was younger to help overcome my fear of women.
And I had some great results that I didn't take anywhere because I was too insecure to go out with them. but yes being straight up with them in person almost always worked for me.
I haven't done a cold approach in a long time, I usually meet women indirectly at the beach or dog park. I still approach anxiety but I'm comftorable tlaking to women and I think if I did approach I would do well.
So I should man up and start approaching women again like I used too when I was insecure/social anxiety (for a few months I did it because I really wanted to become a ladys man)
RE: Rayhons DMSI 2.2 I want the whole CAKE! Journal - Raykon - 08-20-2016
some pretty amazing results from 2.2 happened today.
went to a cousins engagment party and there were only three women there that weren't family.
#1 was my family friend who i've known since I was little kid (I saw her looking at me and she was asking me about what I do now and where I live, I think trying to evaluate my status based on her attraction)
#2 her friend who was I was talking to. I noticed I had NO social anxiety around them whatsoever and she was talkative to me. I didn't stay and talk to her for long however. I feel like I'm very non needy and don't treat attractive women overly special.
#3 this women who is 28 who was a family friend who I haven't seen in 10 years. I remember when I was a little kid she was much older then me. She is a university graduate and works in kinesology/biomedical industry as a rehabilitation doctor or something.
She was REALLY attracted to me, gave me obvious kino, and wanted to come watch the ufc fights with me but ended up staying because of societal judgement (leaving a family engagement very quickly after it began to party to go hang out with a guy she barely knows)
I got her number and tolld her were going to hang out and gave her a hug. She was super attracted to me and I could tell she wanted to come to the fight because she wanted to bang me.
I texted her saying "Hey name I'l give you a shout in a week or two and we'll get together. Enjoy your night" (what's your guys opinion on that text, I value all input)
I think it's good because I was non needy and didn't' seem to eager, I was also straight to the point and wasn't trying to have a long lingering text conversation.
She hasn't responded to my text yet.
I had major attraction from allot of women at the party however I didn't notice any women initiate conversations with me or nothing to obvious.
only with that one women who I was conversing with did I notice attraction. The fact that she wanted to come back with me to our house and watch UFC and I got her number shows she liked me. I was super confident tonight, I had a few beers and tequila shots so that may have helped loosen me up but I was FUCKING ON POINT. I felt like the most confident person in the party. I think I was.
I told her a week or two because i have plans for next weekend, i'm broke atm and because I want to use DMSI 2.3 for as long as possible before going out with her. SHe's actually a great gf material, she does kickboxing, is a university graduate with a great job and comes from a rich family. She is very lady like and well mannered. 9/10 on the looks scale. Very short so I naturally dominate her which makes me feel more confident. I didn't like that the last women I went on a date with was 6 foot 1. I'm 5'6.
It didn't affect my confidence but I didn't feel like I would want to marry or date a women that much taller then me. I like them short or my height. I want to be able to physically dominate them.