(10-01-2012, 12:37 AM)Shannon Wrote: Abi, it is in fact possible to cause headaches using ultrasonic subliminals, and especially when using 5G ultrasonics, especially if the volume is too high or there is too much exposure time. Too much exposure time causes headaches by causing your brain to try too hard to get enough glucose and oxygen to keep up, and causing a pressure headache. The headaches from too high a volume and too much 5G exposure both should dissipate very rapidly when the program is turned off, usually within 5 to 7 minutes on their own.

Too much volume can also cause nausea.

(10-01-2012, 03:44 AM)Shannon Wrote: If you were to play the trickling stream track, and then track where it could be heard, it would be the same range for the ultrasonic. So they do appear to me to be imagining things.

But if you enact your brilliant idea, you're destroying your own test, and interrupting your own usage. Instead, keep using it, but tell them you've stopped. Same difference, without you losing out.

(10-06-2012, 12:16 AM)Javier Gerardo Wrote: Hey abidrew!
I'm very proud of what you have done in the past; for being true and real about your sexuality. I myself have friends who are undergoing the journey you are currently taking. So I definitely can understand the problems you are currently facing.

I can say that Shannon's subliminals will be a big help for you. Not to mention he's always here giving us feedback on our questions. I'm also using ASC 5g. Changes have been for the better thus far but there are still days wherein I feel down. Take it slowly and I wish you all the best.

(10-07-2012, 07:15 AM)Sean Wrote: ssh, I think it would be a great idea to follow the instructions and then report back to us what your readings are on the db meter. Also, I doubt any safe levels have been determined, since these things are usually measured and defined by scientists, who don't believe we can hear those tones.

********* UPDATE *********

Of course, I proved myself wrong shortly after writing this. OSHA has done some work on this: http://www.osha.gov/dts/osta/otm/noise/health_effects/ultrasonics.html

At 20KHz, the 8hr time-weighted average is 92db, which means that over eight hours, you should have an average db of less than this value. Considering that a normal conversation occurs around 65db, my unprofessional, uneducated, and generally ignorant recommendation is to keep the levels down around that level.

(10-07-2012, 07:18 PM)ssh Wrote:

(10-07-2012, 07:15 AM)Sean Wrote: ssh, I think it would be a great idea to follow the instructions and then report back to us what your readings are on the db meter. Also, I doubt any safe levels have been determined, since these things are usually measured and defined by scientists, who don't believe we can hear those tones.

********* UPDATE *********

Of course, I proved myself wrong shortly after writing this. OSHA has done some work on this: http://www.osha.gov/dts/osta/otm/noise/health_effects/ultrasonics.html

At 20KHz, the 8hr time-weighted average is 92db, which means that over eight hours, you should have an average db of less than this value. Considering that a normal conversation occurs around 65db, my unprofessional, uneducated, and generally ignorant recommendation is to keep the levels down around that level.

Sean, thanks for the concern and the information provided by he link you posted. I want to make sure that I hear the subs in the safest way possible because your ear is the gateway to your mind if you are going to use subs to change yourself, hence the precaution.

(10-07-2012, 12:06 PM)Shannon Wrote: Abi, the solution would seem to be headphones.

We're not trying for a cure. We're trying to make positive impact and improvement in the direction the program is designed to affect you. Making claims of a cure is for doctors.

You should add 1.5 days to the end of your usage time for every day you missed.

(10-07-2012, 08:02 PM)Sean Wrote:

(10-07-2012, 07:18 PM)ssh Wrote:

(10-07-2012, 07:15 AM)Sean Wrote: ssh, I think it would be a great idea to follow the instructions and then report back to us what your readings are on the db meter. Also, I doubt any safe levels have been determined, since these things are usually measured and defined by scientists, who don't believe we can hear those tones.

********* UPDATE *********

Of course, I proved myself wrong shortly after writing this. OSHA has done some work on this: http://www.osha.gov/dts/osta/otm/noise/health_effects/ultrasonics.html

At 20KHz, the 8hr time-weighted average is 92db, which means that over eight hours, you should have an average db of less than this value. Considering that a normal conversation occurs around 65db, my unprofessional, uneducated, and generally ignorant recommendation is to keep the levels down around that level.

Sean, thanks for the concern and the information provided by he link you posted. I want to make sure that I hear the subs in the safest way possible because your ear is the gateway to your mind if you are going to use subs to change yourself, hence the precaution.

I still want to know what you discover with your db meter, man!

(10-09-2012, 07:46 AM)Sean Wrote: That sounds like work, ssh. I wanted to know your results.