(08-04-2025, 07:26 PM)Shannon Wrote: Using 5.11G after 6G will not set you back in the 5.11G.  I still use programs in 5.11G, 5.10G, 5.9G and sometimes even 5.75G.  They still work, and until they get upgraded, why not? 

If you have 1511, use that for a while and see what OSC has done for you.  But it doesn't sound like you really followed the directtions for OSC.

(08-04-2025, 07:50 PM)Diablojack00 Wrote:

(08-04-2025, 07:26 PM)Shannon Wrote: Using 5.11G after 6G will not set you back in the 5.11G.  I still use programs in 5.11G, 5.10G, 5.9G and sometimes even 5.75G.  They still work, and until they get upgraded, why not? 

If you have 1511, use that for a while and see what OSC has done for you.  But it doesn't sound like you really followed the directtions for OSC.

I used OSC 6G for 2 months and My goal was listen every day. It turned out it was more like 2 days a week on average for the 2 months.

So I may have just half assed it on OSC the first time around. I can tell you that I felt the effectiveness of OSC up till 2 months ago and I started February 22, 2025 and stopped on April 19th 2025.




Thanks for confirming that going backwards in tech won't set me back. Hearing that from you is a big help.

So with the way I  ran OSC the first time would you recommend OSC ran again before X4A-1511 or just use 1511 for a while as you said above?

(08-05-2025, 08:58 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(08-04-2025, 07:50 PM)Diablojack00 Wrote: I used OSC 6G for 2 months and My goal was listen every day. It turned out it was more like 2 days a week on average for the 2 months.

So I may have just half assed it on OSC the first time around. I can tell you that I felt the effectiveness of OSC up till 2 months ago and I started February 22, 2025 and stopped on April 19th 2025.




Thanks for confirming that going backwards in tech won't set me back. Hearing that from you is a big help.

So with the way I  ran OSC the first time would you recommend OSC ran again before X4A-1511 or just use 1511 for a while as you said above?

If you ran it on average 2 days a week, you're trying to avoid full execution at some level by limiting the exposure time and making excuses to justify why you didn't follow the instructions.  That means that whatever results you got were not what you could have gotten if you had actually followed the instructions.

As to what you run next, that's up to you.

(08-05-2025, 05:32 PM)Catman Wrote:

(08-05-2025, 08:58 AM)Shannon Wrote: If you ran it on average 2 days a week, you're trying to avoid full execution at some level by limiting the exposure time and making excuses to justify why you didn't follow the instructions.  That means that whatever results you got were not what you could have gotten if you had actually followed the instructions.

As to what you run next, that's up to you.

I don't mean to dog pile...

I wasn't going to say anything earlier, but I think a similar thing happened during 1511 or 1000...

So, I wouldn't advise to spend a very large amount of money on a sub (ie. 1600) if the listening regimen isn't there in accordance with the instructions. You won't get what you pay for.

Maybe stick to OSC until a long term routine is commonplace. Thankfully for you, 6G subs require microscopic listening compared to earlier generations...

(Obligatory "back in my day sermon"...)

Back during 5G and 4G days...I would listen up to 21 hours a day building a routine around that. Usually 12+ though to be more realistic. 

Not everyone can do that, that isn't the point. The point is, now we have such short times it makes it extremely easy to listen, and to get a vastly more effective end user result.

20 minutes. That's what this sub needs. 20 minutes per day. Maybe once you do a full run of 20 minutes per day (2 months), then judge where you're at. 

If you've already gotten SOME benefit from OSC, just imagine what a full proper run will do for you. Examine where you are at that point, whether more is needed or try 1511. 

But the listening routine in accordance with the instructions is what matters, or 1000G won't work for you.

(08-06-2025, 01:03 PM)Shannon Wrote: Forgetting to run it was one of the last ways your subconscious had left to resist.  I don't know if that's still possible after the new ASS/ART update (starting in E7) but there's an easy way to defeat "forgetting to run it".  Use a schedule on your timer or calendar app on your phone.

(08-06-2025, 03:44 PM)Diablojack00 Wrote:

(08-06-2025, 01:03 PM)Shannon Wrote: Forgetting to run it was one of the last ways your subconscious had left to resist.  I don't know if that's still possible after the new ASS/ART update (starting in E7) but there's an easy way to defeat "forgetting to run it".  Use a schedule on your timer or calendar app on your phone.

Alright I'll make a schedule on my calendar app and be more disciplined in using OSC 6G 

Thanks for that.

(08-08-2025, 01:52 PM)Shannon Wrote: Listen according to the instructions.  Going outside that, too much or too little, is a sabotage tactic.

(08-08-2025, 06:59 PM)Diablojack00 Wrote:

(08-08-2025, 01:52 PM)Shannon Wrote: Listen according to the instructions.  Going outside that, too much or too little, is a sabotage tactic.

Agreed. I didn't cave to the urge to listen a second time.

I think it was excitement or more likely a sabotage tactic as you said.

Also, I will journal as much as possible but as last time I ran OSC I can't really tell much besides the fact that my confidence is higher than without OSC.

(08-08-2025, 07:29 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(08-08-2025, 06:59 PM)Diablojack00 Wrote: Agreed. I didn't cave to the urge to listen a second time.

I think it was excitement or more likely a sabotage tactic as you said.

Also, I will journal as much as possible but as last time I ran OSC I can't really tell much besides the fact that my confidence is higher than without OSC.

There is a case where more listening is not a sabotage tactic, but follow the instructions.  Last time you didn't.

(08-10-2025, 09:07 PM)Diablojack00 Wrote:

(08-08-2025, 07:29 PM)Shannon Wrote: There is a case where more listening is not a sabotage tactic, but follow the instructions.  Last time you didn't.

The instructions just say listen 
every day that you wish to continue developing and improving your self confidence.

I listened 2 days a week for 20 minutes a day.

That wasn't following instructions and that's on me. 

I was gonna just listen every for the full run but that may be too much.

So how many days a week minimum do you suggest?

(08-10-2025, 09:14 PM)Catman Wrote:

(08-10-2025, 09:07 PM)Diablojack00 Wrote: The instructions just say listen 
every day that you wish to continue developing and improving your self confidence.

I listened 2 days a week for 20 minutes a day.

That wasn't following instructions and that's on me. 

I was gonna just listen every for the full run but that may be too much.

So how many days a week minimum do you suggest?

"Use this program for 20 minutes per day on, every day that you wish to continue developing and improving your self confidence.  A full run-through is 2 months.  You can use this program for multiple run-throughs if you wish."

Stick to daily for 20 minutes for 2 months. Then evaluate progress and if another run is required. 

Keeps it simple. That's easy for anyone to manage.

Normally I would say you'll know when you need to take a day off here and there. But since we've already had issues with listening consistency, I'm hesitant to say that, of course.

Building the listening habit will help you with OSC long-term, but also with other programs. If that's not in place, no point buying programs, they're a waste.

I think you'll like what OSC will do for you if there's consistency. ASC made me a believer...once upon a time...

(08-10-2025, 09:49 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(08-10-2025, 09:14 PM)Catman Wrote: "Use this program for 20 minutes per day on, every day that you wish to continue developing and improving your self confidence.  A full run-through is 2 months.  You can use this program for multiple run-throughs if you wish."

Stick to daily for 20 minutes for 2 months. Then evaluate progress and if another run is required. 

Keeps it simple. That's easy for anyone to manage.

Normally I would say you'll know when you need to take a day off here and there. But since we've already had issues with listening consistency, I'm hesitant to say that, of course.

Building the listening habit will help you with OSC long-term, but also with other programs. If that's not in place, no point buying programs, they're a waste.

I think you'll like what OSC will do for you if there's consistency. ASC made me a believer...once upon a time...

Catman, why would you suggest that he would know when to take days off once in a while?  The idea is to follow the directions.  Not take side quests to distract from and derail the programs "because you want to".