(10-22-2022, 09:58 AM)dissonance Wrote: new M.E. version is out!  Also how were your results from version 1?

(10-22-2022, 11:56 AM)Ninjette750 Wrote:

(10-22-2022, 09:58 AM)dissonance Wrote: new M.E. version is out!  Also how were your results from version 1?

Dude. I've lurked for a while but finally need to say...just run it. You are so interested in this program. Let go of the fear and run it.

(10-14-2022, 01:30 AM)UniversalMan Wrote: Hey Mindmatterz, anny update on progress?

(11-08-2022, 12:25 AM)mindmatterz Wrote:

(10-14-2022, 01:30 AM)UniversalMan Wrote: Hey Mindmatterz, anny update on progress?

I ended up only completing 90 days of the subliminal. My work schedule got in the way of things.

There was no growth in the 3 months that I listened to the subliminal. I do believe this subliminal works, I just didn't dedicate at least 9 months to it.

That being said, during its use my erection quality and frequency improved greatly. This seems to be a lasting effect. I continue to obtain and maintain erections more easily. They are firmer as well.

These effects were stronger while using the subliminal, but since I stopped usage, it is still better than my pre-subliminal erections.

I'm interested in using the new version of the male enhancement subliminal, but I can't fit the $300 price tag into my budget at the moment. I'd probably go with the "thickness only" version. I feel like the mind focusing on one aspect of penis size would lead to faster results. Once my desired results are achieved, I'd be more than happy to spend another $300 for the length version.

(11-08-2022, 10:55 AM)dissonance Wrote:

(11-08-2022, 12:25 AM)mindmatterz Wrote: I ended up only completing 90 days of the subliminal. My work schedule got in the way of things.

There was no growth in the 3 months that I listened to the subliminal. I do believe this subliminal works, I just didn't dedicate at least 9 months to it.

That being said, during its use my erection quality and frequency improved greatly. This seems to be a lasting effect. I continue to obtain and maintain erections more easily. They are firmer as well.

These effects were stronger while using the subliminal, but since I stopped usage, it is still better than my pre-subliminal erections.

I'm interested in using the new version of the male enhancement subliminal, but I can't fit the $300 price tag into my budget at the moment. I'd probably go with the "thickness only" version. I feel like the mind focusing on one aspect of penis size would lead to faster results. Once my desired results are achieved, I'd be more than happy to spend another $300 for the length version.

It's been stated that apparently it is already doing the maximum safe speed of growth no matter what version you pick. Meaning, the ceiling of growth speed is not capped by how much the mind focuses on, but what is safe for the body. Maybe you can choose the Length+Girth version... for science?

(11-08-2022, 09:54 PM)mindmatterz Wrote:

(11-08-2022, 10:55 AM)dissonance Wrote: It's been stated that apparently it is already doing the maximum safe speed of growth no matter what version you pick. Meaning, the ceiling of growth speed is not capped by how much the mind focuses on, but what is safe for the body. Maybe you can choose the Length+Girth version... for science?

That would be the more cost-efficient way to go, that way I only have to spend the $300 once.

However, if I'm using the Length + Thickness version, doesn't the script instruct the subconscious mind to grow the length and thickness in proportion to what it currently is?

So if someone is 6 inches length and 3 inches girth, the penis is 2X longer than it is thick. So if their goal was to reach 6 inches girth, they'd be faced with a 12 inch long penis by the time that girth is achieved? Isn't that script limiting how quickly girth will grow because it's dependent on proportions (assuming most people are longer than they are thick)?

Say penile tissue growth is limited to 1 inch per 6 month cycle, if I use thickness only, my girth will grow 1 inch. If I use the length & thickness version, my penis length will grow 1 inch but my girth will be whatever keeps it proportionate to whatever it is (0.5 inches in the 6x3 example)?

(11-10-2022, 07:52 AM)dissonance Wrote:

(11-08-2022, 09:54 PM)mindmatterz Wrote: That would be the more cost-efficient way to go, that way I only have to spend the $300 once.

However, if I'm using the Length + Thickness version, doesn't the script instruct the subconscious mind to grow the length and thickness in proportion to what it currently is?

So if someone is 6 inches length and 3 inches girth, the penis is 2X longer than it is thick. So if their goal was to reach 6 inches girth, they'd be faced with a 12 inch long penis by the time that girth is achieved? Isn't that script limiting how quickly girth will grow because it's dependent on proportions (assuming most people are longer than they are thick)?

Say penile tissue growth is limited to 1 inch per 6 month cycle, if I use thickness only, my girth will grow 1 inch. If I use the length & thickness version, my penis length will grow 1 inch but my girth will be whatever keeps it proportionate to whatever it is (0.5 inches in the 6x3 example)?

Ah yeah you are right it seems, that makes total sense..... the "required to be in proportion" aspect, applied upon the value that's farthest from the "safe maximum speed" whether it be length or girth, seems maybe a factor that wasn't considered (did i word and state that clearly/correctly? lol). Hmmm..... good point!! Now I'm thinking whether or not to do length only or girth and length now, after my OFv4 lol. Maybe Shannon can pitch in his 2 cents about this specific notion?

(11-12-2022, 10:11 PM)Shannon Wrote: Buying both in one gives you proportional growth in both directions at once, and the growth should be about the same if not exactly the same speed as otherwise, and lets you spend only $300 one time.

Doing one at a time lets you customize it for your personal preferences, and it takes twice as long and costs twice as much.

Traditional PE endeavors do not achieve their results in a way that is similar enough to this approach to reasonably compare them.

(11-13-2022, 03:36 AM)mindmatterz Wrote: Is the growth proportional to the user's current length and girth? Ex: User's erect penis is 6 inches long and 4 inches in girth. Therefore, a 1 inch increase in girth would mean a 1.5 inch increase in length - to maintain the user's proportion of being 1.5X longer than it is thick.

(11-13-2022, 05:40 AM)GreekGod22 Wrote:

(11-13-2022, 03:36 AM)mindmatterz Wrote: Is the growth proportional to the user's current length and girth? Ex: User's erect penis is 6 inches long and 4 inches in girth. Therefore, a 1 inch increase in girth would mean a 1.5 inch increase in length - to maintain the user's proportion of being 1.5X longer than it is thick.

Most likely this, i would assume.

(11-13-2022, 03:36 AM)mindmatterz Wrote:

(11-12-2022, 10:11 PM)Shannon Wrote: Buying both in one gives you proportional growth in both directions at once, and the growth should be about the same if not exactly the same speed as otherwise, and lets you spend only $300 one time.

Doing one at a time lets you customize it for your personal preferences, and it takes twice as long and costs twice as much.

Traditional PE endeavors do not achieve their results in a way that is similar enough to this approach to reasonably compare them.

The use of the word proportion/proportional is still a bit unclear to me. My interpretation of what you just said is that the growth ratio would be 1:1. Length and girth will both be increased by the same amount, at the same time.

However, this does not match up with how I interpret what the Product Page FAQ states:

Q: Does this increase length, thickness/girth or both?

A: It should increase both length and girth such that you retain your current proportions, but have a larger penis.


Is the growth proportional to the user's current length and girth? Ex: User's erect penis is 6 inches long and 4 inches in girth. Therefore, a 1 inch increase in girth would mean a 1.5 inch increase in length - to maintain the user's proportion of being 1.5X longer than it is thick.

Or is it proportional meaning the ratio 1:1? Ex: 1 inch gain in length and 1 inch gain in girth will be achieved at the same time.

(12-06-2022, 10:57 PM)mindmatterz Wrote:

(11-13-2022, 03:36 AM)mindmatterz Wrote: The use of the word proportion/proportional is still a bit unclear to me. My interpretation of what you just said is that the growth ratio would be 1:1. Length and girth will both be increased by the same amount, at the same time.

However, this does not match up with how I interpret what the Product Page FAQ states:

Q: Does this increase length, thickness/girth or both?

A: It should increase both length and girth such that you retain your current proportions, but have a larger penis.


Is the growth proportional to the user's current length and girth? Ex: User's erect penis is 6 inches long and 4 inches in girth. Therefore, a 1 inch increase in girth would mean a 1.5 inch increase in length - to maintain the user's proportion of being 1.5X longer than it is thick.

Or is it proportional meaning the ratio 1:1? Ex: 1 inch gain in length and 1 inch gain in girth will be achieved at the same time.

*BUMP*

Hoping Shannon will chime in once more, before I decided on which version to get.

(12-07-2022, 09:24 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(12-06-2022, 10:57 PM)mindmatterz Wrote: *BUMP*

Hoping Shannon will chime in once more, before I decided on which version to get.

The Q and A I see you quoted already answers your question.

To be more clear, a proportion is a ratio.  It can be expressed as X to Y, or "for every X units, there are Y units".  If your penis is 3 inches in circumference and 7 inches in length, then the ratio would be 3:7 and for every unit of circumference, you would add that ratio to length.  To get that, you divide 3 by 7 to get the length value per unit of circumference, which in this case would be approximately 0.4285.  So for every inch in length you gain, you will gain 0.4285 inches in circumference.  The circumference to length ratio remains the same as the penis grows.