(09-27-2018, 05:08 AM)RTBoss Wrote: Why don't you guys start a discussion thread in the product discussion section? That way Shannon doesn't have to comb back through this thread, and instead can just go to the LTU 5.5G thread when the time comes for him to read all of your ideas.

(09-27-2018, 10:49 AM)jesseb Wrote: Shannon I had a question about a scary experience with AM6 Stage 3 but I assume you don't read everyone journal. Can you private message so that I can ask in private, even though I wrote in my journal. Thank You

(09-27-2018, 10:49 AM)jesseb Wrote: Shannon I had a question about a scary experience with AM6 Stage 3 but I assume you don't read everyone journal. Can you private message so that I can ask in private, even though I wrote in my journal. Thank You

(09-24-2018, 04:24 PM)Benjamin Wrote:

(09-24-2018, 02:36 AM)Nox Wrote:

(09-23-2018, 09:55 PM)Ricardo Wrote: [quote='Shannon' pid='206245' dateline='1537723243']
[quote='Ricardo' pid='206218' dateline='1537694156']

This presupposes that there is only a yes or no variable to the sub. As there are many things happening with this sub and the fact that you are cutting this down to bare bones yes or no logic, as well as the passive aggressive insult, means that I'm pretty sure you're having a go.

Exactly Ricardo... you aren't even here for ages, and you come on and contribute nothing other than to come and try to have a go, just like the last few times.

Then you're called out in it and disappear.

(09-27-2018, 05:14 AM)DavisMind91 Wrote:

(09-26-2018, 09:27 PM)MasterEnki Wrote:

(09-26-2018, 08:52 PM)DavisMind91 Wrote:

(09-26-2018, 08:13 PM)MasterEnki Wrote: I reckon the new LTU should focus on emotional wellbeing, positive thinking, uplifting mindset(s) and the like. Such as E2, PTPA, USLM, Overcome Procrastination, Happiness and Joy, Gratitude, old LTU, etc. (pretty certain Shannon is already planning on adding all these).

The stuff that Shannon mentioned seems like an awesome program.

If you add anything else, it should be about emotional well-being, such as Attract Positive Energy, or Auric Shielding from bad vibes. Maybe some new enhanced emotional healing modules. Also, Everything is Possible could be good to add.


Other things are kinda ‘bloaty’ though.

Stuff about diet and supplements = bloat.
Exercise routine improvement = bloat.
Financial = bloat.
Stop swearing = bloat.
Mental = maybe add just 1 or 2 basic lines in the script about this. But this is still bloat.
Social = (old LTU already covers this).

So...you do realize the title of the subliminal is life tune up right?...Since when are areas like mental, financial, and physical health been considered “bloat”?...when in fact these things, rather poorly or excellently handled are still factors that make up the sum total of a person’s life?

What you’re recommending the new LTU focus on are the same areas the old one does, just with new modules, minus of course the USLM and E2. The current LTU already assists with emotional well-being in many ways, it just doesn’t seem geared towards emotional healing, at least not in the way that E2 does. Instead it focuses on things like instilling a winner’s mindset, over coming guilt, shame, and fear, increasing self confidence, and even improving one’s health, etc.

I feel making the most effective sub geared towards improving one’s life will do more than just generally motivate them and make them feel good. It should also urge them to get off their ass and focus on taking action steps to improve literally all areas of their life in more specific and focused ways. Ultimately rather a person does anything action-oriented is still up to them but we have plenty subs in the shop already that can help a person simply feel better. Those subs have their place and are important, but it appears to me when you’re talking about LTU you’re talking about a sub that’s meant to assist with a total life overhaul from the inside out.

Bloat = something that should be added last, once everything else is added.

You some good suggestions. If everything else fits well first, then your ideas could be okay.

Old LTU already covers something like living a healthy lifestyle. Improving health should motivate one to exercise and have a healthy diet, etc.

Something like ‘Improve Exercise Routine’ seems like it is beyond the scope of LTU, and is something that probably should NOT be in LTU.

There are plenty of decent sites about improving / designing exercise routines. Things like Testosterone Nation and Bodybuilding.com (haven’t accessed them for years) were good last time I accessed them.

Same with financial advice. The basics are obvious:
- Pay bills first
- Have hobbies that are free (running, swimming, bird watching, bush walking, going to the beach, meditation, etc).
- Avoid gambling / wasting money
- Avoid credit / credit cards

I think OP/UM will motivate people (Shannon plans to put them in).

Good emotional well-being should naturally lead to making good / smart decisions in all areas of life.

Your suggestions about ‘social’ are good. I think old LTU already covers that.

Stop Swearing (someone else suggested it) is the most bloat suggestion IMO.

Hopefully Shannon sees your suggestions and my suggestions, and considers them, and makes the best decision for making the best LTU 5.5g he can.

My ideas are excellent, and I feel should be taken into consideration, not just added in as fluff or "bloat". Besides at this point, I'm sure Shannon is beyond just throwing stuff into a sub just to have it there. He works like a sniper when it comes to making subliminal and aspires to hit his mark once a program is released which is a part of the reason he wants feedback from the users in the first place.

I already mentioned in response to another post why I mentioned implanting a suggestion as specific as improving an exercise routine for physical health, but you also neglected to mention in your response, that I also made a suggestion for the new LTU to guide a person to create one in the first place, which is not beyond the scope of an LTU subliminal. I'm confident an element of exercise enjoyment and motivation can be added and be effective.

I'm in agreement with you that there's plenty of information about how to do things like build a diet/exercise program, as well as financial tips; but guess what, there are articles all over the web on how to improve any area of life. So operating from that logic, what's the use in creating a new LTU in the first place if people just want to search the web for tips all day?


"Good emotional well-being should naturally lead to making good / smart decisions in all areas of life." - I disagree with that statement. A drug addict or alcoholic for example can get high or drunk all day and feel good, but be blind to the fact they're destroying their lives inside out. It takes more than feeling on top of the world to implement smart and good decisions in one's life. It takes choices and consistent execution.


Just like everyone else, I do feel that a stop swearing portion is unnecessary, perhaps better as a standalone subliminal altogether since choosing to stop saying certain words doesn't inherently improves one's life, even if it just helps them feel better about themselves.

I also agree that features like auric shielding and attract positive energy would make good additions if they can work synergistically with the rest of the program.

(09-27-2018, 02:21 PM)MasterEnki Wrote:

(09-27-2018, 05:14 AM)DavisMind91 Wrote:

(09-26-2018, 09:27 PM)MasterEnki Wrote:

(09-26-2018, 08:52 PM)DavisMind91 Wrote:

(09-26-2018, 08:13 PM)MasterEnki Wrote: I reckon the new LTU should focus on emotional wellbeing, positive thinking, uplifting mindset(s) and the like. Such as E2, PTPA, USLM, Overcome Procrastination, Happiness and Joy, Gratitude, old LTU, etc. (pretty certain Shannon is already planning on adding all these).

The stuff that Shannon mentioned seems like an awesome program.

If you add anything else, it should be about emotional well-being, such as Attract Positive Energy, or Auric Shielding from bad vibes. Maybe some new enhanced emotional healing modules. Also, Everything is Possible could be good to add.


Other things are kinda ‘bloaty’ though.

Stuff about diet and supplements = bloat.
Exercise routine improvement = bloat.
Financial = bloat.
Stop swearing = bloat.
Mental = maybe add just 1 or 2 basic lines in the script about this. But this is still bloat.
Social = (old LTU already covers this).

So...you do realize the title of the subliminal is life tune up right?...Since when are areas like mental, financial, and physical health been considered “bloat”?...when in fact these things, rather poorly or excellently handled are still factors that make up the sum total of a person’s life?

What you’re recommending the new LTU focus on are the same areas the old one does, just with new modules, minus of course the USLM and E2. The current LTU already assists with emotional well-being in many ways, it just doesn’t seem geared towards emotional healing, at least not in the way that E2 does. Instead it focuses on things like instilling a winner’s mindset, over coming guilt, shame, and fear, increasing self confidence, and even improving one’s health, etc.

I feel making the most effective sub geared towards improving one’s life will do more than just generally motivate them and make them feel good. It should also urge them to get off their ass and focus on taking action steps to improve literally all areas of their life in more specific and focused ways. Ultimately rather a person does anything action-oriented is still up to them but we have plenty subs in the shop already that can help a person simply feel better. Those subs have their place and are important, but it appears to me when you’re talking about LTU you’re talking about a sub that’s meant to assist with a total life overhaul from the inside out.

Bloat = something that should be added last, once everything else is added.

You some good suggestions. If everything else fits well first, then your ideas could be okay.

Old LTU already covers something like living a healthy lifestyle. Improving health should motivate one to exercise and have a healthy diet, etc.

Something like ‘Improve Exercise Routine’ seems like it is beyond the scope of LTU, and is something that probably should NOT be in LTU.

There are plenty of decent sites about improving / designing exercise routines. Things like Testosterone Nation and Bodybuilding.com (haven’t accessed them for years) were good last time I accessed them.

Same with financial advice. The basics are obvious:
- Pay bills first
- Have hobbies that are free (running, swimming, bird watching, bush walking, going to the beach, meditation, etc).
- Avoid gambling / wasting money
- Avoid credit / credit cards

I think OP/UM will motivate people (Shannon plans to put them in).

Good emotional well-being should naturally lead to making good / smart decisions in all areas of life.

Your suggestions about ‘social’ are good. I think old LTU already covers that.

Stop Swearing (someone else suggested it) is the most bloat suggestion IMO.

Hopefully Shannon sees your suggestions and my suggestions, and considers them, and makes the best decision for making the best LTU 5.5g he can.

My ideas are excellent, and I feel should be taken into consideration, not just added in as fluff or "bloat". Besides at this point, I'm sure Shannon is beyond just throwing stuff into a sub just to have it there. He works like a sniper when it comes to making subliminal and aspires to hit his mark once a program is released which is a part of the reason he wants feedback from the users in the first place.

I already mentioned in response to another post why I mentioned implanting a suggestion as specific as improving an exercise routine for physical health, but you also neglected to mention in your response, that I also made a suggestion for the new LTU to guide a person to create one in the first place, which is not beyond the scope of an LTU subliminal. I'm confident an element of exercise enjoyment and motivation can be added and be effective.

I'm in agreement with you that there's plenty of information about how to do things like build a diet/exercise program, as well as financial tips; but guess what, there are articles all over the web on how to improve any area of life. So operating from that logic, what's the use in creating a new LTU in the first place if people just want to search the web for tips all day?


"Good emotional well-being should naturally lead to making good / smart decisions in all areas of life." - I disagree with that statement. A drug addict or alcoholic for example can get high or drunk all day and feel good, but be blind to the fact they're destroying their lives inside out. It takes more than feeling on top of the world to implement smart and good decisions in one's life. It takes choices and consistent execution.


Just like everyone else, I do feel that a stop swearing portion is unnecessary, perhaps better as a standalone subliminal altogether since choosing to stop saying certain words doesn't inherently improves one's life, even if it just helps them feel better about themselves.

I also agree that features like auric shielding and attract positive energy would make good additions if they can work synergistically with the rest of the program.

TBH, I’m kinda biased.

I am pretty fit / ripped. I am already obsessed with gym training. I already have a healthy diet. I also go running every second day (3 - 4 times a week). I do a bit of swimming when weather / circumstances allow for it.

And financially, I’m barely just making ends meet. But I’m staying out of debt. I pay my bills / rent first, and buy my groceries / supplements, and then I’m broke.

I don’t drink, nor do I go out to any social venues, since I can’t afford either. I spend my weekends reading, watching TV, meditating, walking to the beach (I live on the coast) and so on.

I also own my own weights and bench, a doorway pull-up bar and some paralettes. So my gym training is free (apart from what I paid years ago when I bought the gym equipment).

I also avoid alcohol to maintain maximum fitness / gym results.


The ideal LTU for me would not have those things in it.

But, I know a lot of people are lazy and don’t exercise, eat junk food nonstop, binge drink, etc. So I can see that your suggestions are useful to a lot of potential LTU users.


Also, someone with good emotional well-being would likely avoid drugs / alcohol, since they naturally experience the highs while sober / straight. Someone with good emotional well-being can easily handle the lows while sober / straight.

The typical addict lacks emotional well-being, or is emotionally damaged. The typical addict binge drinks / takes drugs to mask and ignore the emotional lows / pains (and they crave the highs, that they lack naturally).

LTU 5.5g should be good whatever Shannon decides, since he likes to aim for high standards in his work.

(09-28-2018, 07:08 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Agree with Kol. Also, I had to agree with Shannon and can't believe we're still on the "looks matter" BS arguments.

I'll say it again: I'm an 8 looks-wise and have always had trouble with women. If it was looks they wanted I'd be swimming in it, but I'm not, so obviously it's something else.

(09-27-2018, 01:40 PM)Ricardo Wrote:

(09-24-2018, 04:24 PM)Benjamin Wrote:

(09-24-2018, 02:36 AM)Nox Wrote:

(09-23-2018, 09:55 PM)Ricardo Wrote: [quote='Shannon' pid='206245' dateline='1537723243']
[quote='Ricardo' pid='206218' dateline='1537694156']

This presupposes that there is only a yes or no variable to the sub. As there are many things happening with this sub and the fact that you are cutting this down to bare bones yes or no logic, as well as the passive aggressive insult, means that I'm pretty sure you're having a go.

Exactly Ricardo... you aren't even here for ages, and you come on and contribute nothing other than to come and try to have a go, just like the last few times.

Then you're called out in it and disappear.

I'm still here and I still stand by my assertions. I'm only trying to add perspective to the issue. The way any criticism is met with such hostility , especially from Shannon does rather prove my points I'm afraid.

Quote:The way any criticism is met with such hostility , especially from Shannon does rather prove my points I'm afraid.