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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - RTBoss - 05-30-2016 I know, CatMan...Let's get a button camera on ya for one of your nights out, record your interactions, upload it to a private YouTube channel, and we can see if we can all figure it out together! ;-) RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Catman - 05-30-2016 (05-30-2016, 04:36 PM)RTBoss Wrote: I know, CatMan...Let's get a button camera on ya for one of your nights out, record your interactions, upload it to a private YouTube channel, and we can see if we can all figure it out together! ;-) Due to being such an established entrepreneur, that option is impossible for me now, lol. Ending up on Buzzfeed or wherever else would be deeply humiliating for this and would probably end my career in business. Thanks kindly for the offer though, pal it means a lot. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - AlphaMind - 05-30-2016 (05-30-2016, 03:10 PM)Darkness Wrote: I was thinking similarly, I rather it be permanent. Meh ![]() At the end of the day only the Shannon knows the best. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - heavysm - 05-30-2016 (05-30-2016, 04:31 PM)CatMan Wrote: Yeah, true. From what I've have read from you lately I think E 2 for 3 months would suit you well. Why? Because once you get all the blockages out of the way you'll likely know where you want to go, whether it's back on the AM train or cranking up business with BASE. Even if you don't go for 3 months of E 2, a month should guide you on feeling out what the next move should be. I'm following my own advice right now doing E 2 for hopefully 3 months then deciding where I want to go after. Technically I should complete my second run of BASE after E 2, but hey, I'm keeping my options open at this point. Sometimes we just need a reset button and I'm pretty sure E 2 is just that. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Darkness - 05-30-2016 (05-30-2016, 04:46 PM)AlphaMind Wrote:(05-30-2016, 03:10 PM)Darkness Wrote: I was thinking similarly, I rather it be permanent. I can't concur, when I'm gonna be using something that's like tom ford's oud wood perfume,a beautiful loss. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - 4Kingdoms - 05-30-2016 (05-30-2016, 04:31 PM)CatMan Wrote: Honestly, half of me wants to just cycle E2 and AM/BASE and say screw this women-chasing-treadmill-rubic's-cube, and be done with it. Great idea!!! Best part?? The changes are so smooth and feels so natural as they are happening, you won't even realize they have happened until someone who hasn't seen you in awhile tells you... "Catman, something is different about you. I don't know what it is, but I like it. Whatever you are on, I want some of it!" And you will hear it over and over again from people you know and still wonder, "Am I that different??" You may not see the difference or care to give it any thought, but you will feel wonderful!! Hope you start E2 soon, like right now!!! And keep us up to date with your journey. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 05-30-2016 (05-30-2016, 12:03 PM)Bookstacks DC737 Wrote: Hey Shannon I was wondering if you could clarify some statements you made in this post: http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5159-post-69089.html#pid69089 Mind programming can conflict if the goals are not fully compatible. It can conflict if it is made by more than one creator, and especially if they have different approaches, levels of experience, degrees of understanding and drives to be precise and accurate. The issue is conflict. I can only design the program to do it's job. I can't design it to know what crazy sh*t you guys might think of doing all at once. So, the safe answer is... use the subliminal, or use something else, but don't use both at once. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 05-30-2016 (05-30-2016, 12:16 PM)Sickologist Wrote: I'm planning to run AOSI every night so that will be 8-9 hours. I was thinking about eventually trying the Natural Seduction sub. Let's say I only listen to that for 1-4 hours every saturaday while doing AOSI every night, would they compliment each other? Or is it redundant? AOSI is the great grandchild of NSFM. NSFM started us on the path of ITM-SS. Both use it, but to different levels of cost, advancement and intensity. And, they're using it in opposite directions. One is making you inwardly sexy, and the other is making you outwardly seduction oriented. State shifting conflicts with state shifting. You can't hold two separate states at once unless they are both instructed within the same script, and they do not conflict. This is two different programs. They will very likely conflict therefore. This is two opposing goals. They will again very likely conflict. Since AOSI is miles more advanced and powerful, just get to know what it can do for now. You can experiment with melting your mind later. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 05-30-2016 (05-30-2016, 12:31 PM)Light Wrote:(05-30-2016, 12:16 PM)Sickologist Wrote: I'm planning to run AOSI every night so that will be 8-9 hours. I was thinking about eventually trying the Natural Seduction sub. Let's say I only listen to that for 1-4 hours every saturaday while doing AOSI every night, would they compliment each other? Or is it redundant? As best I can see, this will tend to cause a conflict between the programs. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 05-30-2016 (05-30-2016, 02:01 PM)K-Train Wrote:Shanno Wrote:In this way, it will behave sort of like an ultra-powerful NSFM, except that it doesn't get YOU to seduce others; instead it will tend to have the effect (when used for enough time beforehand, which will vary from person to person) of getting others to seduce YOU. The goal is to balance postive sexual tension with the comfort with it that allows for acceptance and action on it; and the familiarity is intended along the same lines. People are attracted to what is attractive, but if it is unsafe, unfamiliar, unknown, or uncomfortable to the right degree, they will also be repelled. It can lead to a caution or ASD approach, instead of achieving the goal. My aim is to balance the comfort and familiarity with positive sexual tension and attraction/arousal such that the best of all worlds is the result. Maximum unlock and action for the goal of the program. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 05-30-2016 (05-30-2016, 03:03 PM)Jakeb203 Wrote:(05-30-2016, 04:12 AM)Shannon Wrote:(05-30-2016, 04:00 AM)AriGold Wrote: I was hoping that the aura was permanent until you run a sub that changes that aura... AOSI does have permanency programming in it. But the mechanism behind the program requires a lot of focus and effort and energy, and people do not tend to self motivate that well. I am therefore predicting that the effects will tend to fade over time if you stop using it, unless you use it for a hell of a long time - and maybe even then. It's not designed for fun, it's designed to achieve it's goals, to whatever end they make sense for you. Fun, serious, whatever. If you use it as instructed for long term use, the effects will not fade instantly when you stop using it, but they will not be "powered" anymore when the constant motivation to make the effort required is gone. You can steer a car without powered steering, but it's nowhere near as easy. It takes energy to manipulate energy. While the program will, to some degree, work after you stop it when you have used it long term - as there is a lot of programming that will continue running and affecting you - the motivation-requiring high energy expenditure parts will tend to slow down a lot. There are limits to what is possible, and to what is desirable. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 05-30-2016 (05-30-2016, 03:10 PM)Darkness Wrote:(05-30-2016, 03:03 PM)Jakeb203 Wrote:(05-30-2016, 04:12 AM)Shannon Wrote:(05-30-2016, 04:00 AM)AriGold Wrote: I was hoping that the aura was permanent until you run a sub that changes that aura... If it was permanent, you'd prefer it wasn't. That would very likely conflict with a lot of advanced stuff I haven't built yet. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 05-30-2016 (05-30-2016, 03:36 PM)CatMan Wrote: Yeah it sounds like the sub isn't a permanent sub, and is augmenting "what you currently have", as Shannon has described earlier on as well. Since SM3 totally failed for me and is deemed to be a deep permanent change compared to this program...I'm now not convinced this sub will do much either, at least currently since "what I have" hasn't gotten any success at all. I'll have to rethink whether buying it and switching to it from E2 is wise, sadly. If I didn't get benefit from SM3, I'm probably not likely to get much from this, either. It's going to suck reading epic reports from others, but I did the same thing about SM3 so that isn't new. Let us reiterate that SM3 did not fail you. It's just a set of instructions. The action was on your part, and so if anything, you failed to accept, execute and act on the instructions. I'm amused how easily you are influenced about things, without ever trying them. But not surprised. It's the end all be all, no, it won't work. Meanwhile, it's not even available for sale yet. Whatever happened to "Let's see what happens when I use it"? Assumptions don't make for very good basis for decisions that produce results, and as a business man, you should know that. I already told you, you need to focus on clearing out the crap that's holding you down and holding you back. 3 to 9 months of E2 should be massively helpful. Don't try to do AM again until you feel like E2 has cleared out a hell of a lot of crap, and it doesn't hurt when you stop using it and the emotional anesthetic fades away. Once that happens, you may find you don't need to run anything else to accomplish your goals. But if you do want to, then consider AOSI or AM. But first focus on what the real issue is. E2 is the right tool for this job. I know I'm talking myself out of a sale here, but the fact is, you're better off doing it this way. I'd rather you genuinely fix the problem, than make a little more money in the short run. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 05-30-2016 (05-30-2016, 04:16 PM)dissonance Wrote:(05-30-2016, 03:28 AM)Shannon Wrote: It occurs to me that AOSI should not be used with pheromones, until you are significantly familiar with how AOSI performs by itself and how pheromones perform by themselves. How will you know what did what if you just blindly use them both at once without knowing what each does on its own first? Seriously! |