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RE: MLS 5.5 -- Listening not to me but to the Logos it is wise to agree that all is one - RTBoss - 08-10-2017

(08-10-2017, 12:07 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(08-10-2017, 10:50 AM)Alpha360 Wrote: Why anger and not the typical resistance pattern?

Anger is a typical resistance pattern for some. Why, I do not yet understand fully.

I notice I get angry when some part of me feels a lack of control - so certainly from a place of fear. Driving, for instance - or when I'm tired, out of patience,and my kid makes a giant mess I have to clean up...

I still remember an argument I once had with my wife that turned me into a violent rage, breaking things/throwing things/screaming at the top of my lungs. I thought she was lost to me, anyway, so I went for broke. Sheer black-out rage. She probably figured she had nothing to lose, or was daring me to physically harm her - which is one thing I wouldn't do - and cornered me so I couldn't physically get away from her. Suddenly, the anger disappeared completely, and I explained something in a completely clear, rational manner. She then broke down in tears, asking why I couldn't have just explained like that in the first place. I didn't have an answer, and I still wonder what happened to this day that turned the anger off like a switch. It turned off and stayed off for that specific situation.

But, that's just me.

RE: MLS 5.5 -- Listening not to me but to the Logos it is wise to agree that all is one - LionKing - 08-11-2017

I guess that's the N component of my personality type, but if there's something difficult or demanding, then what I like to do is I gather all the information and points of view I can into a big cloud in my head, and then I need to relax. The clarity will come, and THEN I can act.

Otherwise, if there's huge pressure (importance, time, lots of conflicting demands, drawbacks, etc), and someone just keeps piling it on relentlessly without allowing me to solve it (ie, relax enough to solve it) and/or doesn't help at all and might even be coming from selfish motivations that I don't agree are my responsibility, then Its likely I'll get angry at them. I thinks its the intensity of the mounting feelings of overwhelm and/or helplessness that are too much and that I turn into that anger to get it out.

Or when on ASC 5G, I always assumed I was angry because I was tasked being confident, but then I perceived people/society putting limits on me, so the anger was towards them. But I guess some would've been towards the demanding entity, because "can't you see - how t f am I supposed to be doing this?" I guess there's a fear of failure component in there that leads to marking all non-perfect solutions as shit, so I'm left with no options, and thus the frustration. More frustration from not even being able to identify who, ultimately, I am placing these demands in myself (am I right in my beliefs, or are all the "normal" people right and I'm delusional).

Anyway, that's just me. (And yes, I know that's faulty thinking. ) So in this and similar cases, I'd guess all anti-perfectionism and learning-oriented, as opposed to just doing the thing you don't yet know how to do (giving permission to suck at it, to take the time to let the solution come to you), programming would help. I'm hoping parts from MLS actually stay in the skeleton script; the learning would then just be directed at DMSI or whatever.

RE: MLS 5.5 -- Listening not to me but to the Logos it is wise to agree that all is one - Inconceivablezen - 08-20-2017

MLS is... breathtaking. My ability to focus is almost unlimited in quantity, even though I did not get maximum sun exposure in the last few days--I generally need a lot of sun exposure for my brain to function optimally.

With 3-5 hours of deep work being possible in the past, 12 hours of deep concentrated work a day is now a possibility.

Edit: Typo

RE: MLS 5.5 -- Listening not to me but to the Logos it is wise to agree that all is one - Blacksheep - 08-20-2017

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RE: MLS 5.5 -- Listening not to me but to the Logos it is wise to agree that all is one - Inconceivablezen - 08-20-2017

No anger.

RE: MLS 5.5 -- Listening not to me but to the Logos it is wise to agree that all is one - Inconceivablezen - 08-20-2017

Quitting MLS for now by the way. Turned in my last Master's thesis yesterday night. Only one more verbal test, but DMSI will be better for giving me an edge for the verbal test compared to MLS.

Will return to MLS once I get a job at which my intellect is fully needed.

Eternity has said this before, that MLS is like modafinil. I agree with him, but it's modafinil without any side effects (such as over-stimulation, or the inability to sleep at night).

RE: MLS 5.5 -- Listening not to me but to the Logos it is wise to agree that all is one - JackOfHearts - 08-20-2017

(08-20-2017, 10:24 AM)Inconceivablezen Wrote: MLS is... breathtaking. My ability to focus is almost unlimited in quantity, even though I did not get maximum sun exposure in the last few days--I generally need a lot of sun exposure for my brain to function optimally.

With 3-5 hours of deep work being possible in the past, 12 hours of deep concentrated work a day is now a possibility.

Edit: Typo

How much time do you need exactly? how noticeable the difference is usually with and without sun? Any noticeable effect of the moon light?

RE: MLS 5.5 -- Listening not to me but to the Logos it is wise to agree that all is one - terry44 - 08-21-2017

(08-20-2017, 10:15 PM)Inconceivablezen Wrote: Eternity has said this before, that MLS is like modafinil. I agree with him, but it's modafinil without any side effects (such as over-stimulation, or the inability to sleep at night).

It also has healing/clearing/detox, and it's like buying a lifetime's supply of modafinil for $114.95!

RE: MLS 5.5 -- Listening not to me but to the Logos it is wise to agree that all is one - Inconceivablezen - 09-04-2017

(08-20-2017, 11:19 PM)Alpha360 Wrote:
(08-20-2017, 10:24 AM)Inconceivablezen Wrote: MLS is... breathtaking. My ability to focus is almost unlimited in quantity, even though I did not get maximum sun exposure in the last few days--I generally need a lot of sun exposure for my brain to function optimally.

With 3-5 hours of deep work being possible in the past, 12 hours of deep concentrated work a day is now a possibility.

Edit: Typo

How much time do you need exactly? how noticeable the difference is usually with and without sun? Any noticeable effect of the moon light?

I'm sorry for responding this late Alpha. I notice a huge difference in with or without sun, but the benefits are not exponential. There's a sweet spot with regard to sunlight exposure.

While I can handle a UV index of 10-13 for about 2-3 hours, I get the best results with a UV index of 10 for about an hour exposure at noon each day.

Moon light does not affect me that much. The light is very faint, it's only 5 lux, which is about 25.000 - 35.000 times less bright than a full summer day. Nevertheless, there might be some credence to these stories about how people swear that moonlight decreases their sleep quality. For example, there is a study that a very weak light that is shone on the hamstring (so, not on the eyes!) can already surpress melatonin levels.

For the best effects, I generally do about 30 minutes of cold therogenesis in my 450 gallon tub in the morning (the water has cooled down during the night). The exposure length decreases greatly when the temperatures get closer to zero. I can handle almost freezing water for about 10 minutes now. Then breakfast follows. And then I go working in my room, with about 1250W of Halogen lamps projected at my body to mimic the morning sun.

RE: MLS 5.5 -- Listening not to me but to the Logos it is wise to agree that all is one - Inconceivablezen - 09-04-2017

(08-21-2017, 02:44 AM)terry44 Wrote:
(08-20-2017, 10:15 PM)Inconceivablezen Wrote: Eternity has said this before, that MLS is like modafinil. I agree with him, but it's modafinil without any side effects (such as over-stimulation, or the inability to sleep at night).

It also has healing/clearing/detox, and it's like buying a lifetime's supply of modafinil for $114.95!

And MLS has much more. It does not impair sleep at night. Modafinil has a real long half-life. Modafinil does not improve creativity for many people.

Too tired to type now. I did have an extremely productive day again. 4 loops of MLS. I had been using 2 loops of MLS during the past week, and the results returned after about 5 days. So, the build-up that was needed for MLS the first time around was no longer necessary.

RE: MLS 5.5 -- Listening not to me but to the Logos it is wise to agree that all is one - Inconceivablezen - 11-20-2017

Can attest that the MLS results are back in almost an instant. 2 days, 4 loops per day.

Results:

First, need to learn is back. I'm enjoying studying more.

Second, procrastination is down.

Thirdly, titanic focus.

Fourthly, less fear and anxiety when learning.

I can thus confirm what I said in the last post: "[s]o, the build-up that was needed for MLS the first time around was no longer necessary." The third round of MLS had results return even quicker.

RE: MLS 5.5 -- Listening not to me but to the Logos it is wise to agree that all is one - Inconceivablezen - 01-02-2018

Have been using MLS now since mid-November.

I've also been training my working memory with i3 Mindware since that time. That should make the gains more quantifyable.

From the end of November until mid December, I did 40 dual n-back sesssions, on the 1g difficulty (which is harder than standard n-back), and I ended up with around 6.5-back on average.

The results after 20 sessions can be seen here:

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I do not have a picture of the completed 40 sessions.

After 40 sessions on 1g, I turned to the 2g version of n-back (2g is harder than 1g, and 1g is harder than the standard n-back), on double speed, and got up to a 5.5 n-back average:

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One reason the 2g version of n-back is much harder, because you have to focus on numbers, locations, and sounds, all at the same time.

The reason I was doing all the brain training is because I was planning going into management consulting. However, that plan has been short-circuited, because someone I know asked me to start a company on a business model that he's already succesful with, and let me help him so that we can togeter sell the company. He needs help in terms of the time investment to be able to pull off a sale within a year.

And if I do sell that company, it will help me getting a job in management consultancy / strategy within a year.

RE: MLS 5.5 -- Listening not to me but to the Logos it is wise to agree that all is one - Inconceivablezen - 01-02-2018

Also, for those who want more quantification of results on MLS: I've also been using the caseinterviewmath.com tool.

As a management consultant, you need to be able to do arithmetic that is both quick and accurate. For example, as a consultant you might need to be able to quickly estimate the market of used cars in the US, while articulate assumptions.

The tool tests two types of math: 1) precise math; 2) estimation math.

On precise math, I scored about 7-8 questions a minute at the end of November, and now it's around 16. On estimation math, I scored about 4-5 questions per minute, and now it's around 10. Acccuracy, however, is only 95%, and still needs to go up (it needs to be 100%).

For those who want to try that tool, only use "hard, random" on precise math, and "hard" on estimation math.

My precise math still needs to increase to 22 questions per minute, in order to get into the 20th percentile. On estimation math, I'm already there.

Math is a relative weak spot of me, as I was placed #1 on the 1g dual-n-back scores on i3 Mindware, and #5 on the 2g dual-n-back scores on a worldwide level.

Edit: 4 loops of MLS a day, back to back, since Nov

Edit2: I fucking hate writing these reports, but I hope it helps someone (esp. Shannon)

RE: MLS 5.5 -- Listening not to me but to the Logos it is wise to agree that all is one - Determined - 01-02-2018

What is management consultancy?

Edit: Love the data, great work!

I also noticed you have Hegel in your signature. I've been going through quite a bit of philosophy these past few days as apart of my MLS journey so I can definitely appreciate.

Check this out if you're interested:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y2yHDBaPsk