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RE: Help Me Understand Global Warming - SargeMaximus - 07-07-2017

(07-07-2017, 04:51 PM)Daredevil Wrote: Global warming is caused by

1. Magnetic pole changes. Magnetic north is in Siberia now and Magnetic south is is the southern ocean.

2. Solar changes and fluctuations.

3. Earths natural cycles.


Co2 emissions have little effect on global warming and if the Un really wanted to cut down on Co2 emissions, they would go after oil and gas companies. But since they are on the payroll they don't go after them

As I said to kalmah:


"Got any resources we could read to come to the same conclusion?"


RE: Help Me Understand Global Warming - SargeMaximus - 07-08-2017

It's 1:23 a.m. right now and is still 19 Degrees Celsius :o

That may be an indication.

I don't think I've ever seen it this warm in the night time.


RE: Help Me Understand Global Warming - D.Ace - 07-09-2017

13:54 with 51 centigrade here, if only dimsee powered up by ambient temperature and sunlight, I'd be slaying, dude!

I think global warming is a natural cycle anyway, and you might want to search a topic about CO2 production from sea water if it's assumed that we're as human is the only factor influencing greenhouse effect.


RE: Help Me Understand Global Warming - Shawn - 07-11-2017

(07-09-2017, 01:54 AM)D.Ace Wrote: 13:54 with 51 centigrade here, if only dimsee powered up by ambient temperature and sunlight, I'd be slaying, dude!

I think global warming is a natural cycle anyway, and you might want to search a topic about CO2 production from sea water if it's assumed that we're as human is the only factor influencing greenhouse effect.

That's what I heard, too. The natural CO2 production is like 95% of the CO2 and man-made CO2 like 5% (don't remember the exact values). They also said that the earth already had warm and cold periods before mankind did exist. It was some scientific documentary where I saw this.


RE: Help Me Understand Global Warming - Lowe - 07-11-2017

(07-07-2017, 04:51 PM)Daredevil Wrote: Global warming is caused by

1. Magnetic pole changes. Magnetic north is in Siberia now and Magnetic south is is the southern ocean.

2. Solar changes and fluctuations.

3. Earths natural cycles.


Co2 emissions have little effect on global warming and if the Un really wanted to cut down on Co2 emissions, they would go after oil and gas companies. But since they are on the payroll they don't go after them

(07-11-2017, 07:35 AM)Mr. Anderson Wrote:
(07-09-2017, 01:54 AM)D.Ace Wrote: 13:54 with 51 centigrade here, if only dimsee powered up by ambient temperature and sunlight, I'd be slaying, dude!

I think global warming is a natural cycle anyway, and you might want to search a topic about CO2 production from sea water if it's assumed that we're as human is the only factor influencing greenhouse effect.

That's what I heard, too. The natural CO2 production is like 95% of the CO2 and man-made CO2 like 5% (don't remember the exact values). They also said that the earth already had warm and cold periods before mankind did exist. It was some scientific documentary where I saw this.

For the first point, it is true that only a small part of CO2 production is man-made (actually only about 3%) However, it is important to note that such a small amount represents massive emissions in absolute terms, and it can "tip the balance". Natural CO2 goes into the atmosphere is balanced by equal amounts of natural CO2 going out. That's how it always have been. This is not the same for man-made C02 production. There is no pre-designed way to absorb man-made CO2. An extra 3% going in not being compensated by 3% going out, and the balance is upset.

If you look at CO2 concentration in the atmosphere over a long period of time, you can see it rising sharply starting around 100-150 years ago and accelerating since. Concentration was more or less the same for thousands of years, but in the past century it has risen about 30%, starting exactly around the time one would expect it to be.

To tackle the second point regarding global warming mentioned by all three, it is also true that the Earth had fluctuating temperatures long before humans exist and such is the natural cycle of the planet. Climate aren't changed by humans alone, but this doesn't mean humans can't change the climate all by ourselves, and indeed at a greater speed than ever before. We know that the pace of warming is well out of proportions compared to any prehistoric warming periods. And of course, the earlier point of the big increase in CO2 concentration comes up also. The CO2 are not hanging around doing nothing.


RE: Help Me Understand Global Warming - Shawn - 07-12-2017

(07-11-2017, 08:44 AM)Lowe Wrote: For the first point, it is true that only a small part of CO2 production is man-made (actually only about 3%) However, it is important to note that such a small amount represents massive emissions in absolute terms, and it can "tip the balance". Natural CO2 goes into the atmosphere is balanced by equal amounts of natural CO2 going out. That's how it always have been. This is not the same for man-made C02 production. There is no pre-designed way to absorb man-made CO2. An extra 3% going in not being compensated by 3% going out, and the balance is upset.

As far I remember they said that this isn't enough for making the climate change significant different in comparison to what would happen anyway. But, however, it has been a long time since I saw this, at about the time Al Gore has published his own stuff, so I don't remember everything 100%.


RE: Help Me Understand Global Warming - SargeMaximus - 07-15-2017

Ok here's a screenshot of the weather network site showing the records for this day. Notice the dates:

https://s19.postimg.org/5cjn1wbcz/image.jpg


RE: Help Me Understand Global Warming - Shawn - 07-15-2017

(07-15-2017, 07:09 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Ok here's a screenshot of the weather network site showing the records for this day. Notice the dates:

https://s19.postimg.org/5cjn1wbcz/image.jpg

Lol, that's crazy.


RE: Help Me Understand Global Warming - SargeMaximus - 07-15-2017

(07-15-2017, 10:45 AM)Mr. Anderson Wrote:
(07-15-2017, 07:09 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Ok here's a screenshot of the weather network site showing the records for this day. Notice the dates:

https://s19.postimg.org/5cjn1wbcz/image.jpg

Lol, that's crazy.

Right?

Seriously, everytime I see this thing on that site it's very similar. Hottest is back before 1950 (usually early 1900's) and coldest is very recent.


RE: Help Me Understand Global Warming - RisingSon - 07-15-2017

I'm hoping Yellowstone blows and we have a global ice age. Fingers crossed.