(10-31-2016, 04:43 PM)Narcissus Wrote: Shannon, i was wondering if listening to DMSI for long time than you instructed causes any other side effect except tiredness? I have intense tiredness for the first 3-4 hours I wake up after which I feel absolutely fine.So it doesn't bother me as long as the effectiveness of the sub doesn't diminish.
Also should I alternate between masked and Ultrasonic tracks?

(10-31-2016, 05:59 PM)chaosvrgn Wrote:

(10-31-2016, 02:51 PM)Narcissus Wrote: Hello I'm a new comer here but a long time lurker.Like everyone,I'm fascinated with the female species and bought the DMSI 2.5.I did read an insane amount of journals of people who are trying it and speculating about its results.
Its been 3 days that I've been using it and I lost my virginity yesterday.
Whys that significant?because I am 24 years old.
So I'd say it definitely is working.
Also I am very new to the art of using Internet forums so this journal might be all over the place.

(11-01-2016, 04:00 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(10-31-2016, 04:43 PM)Narcissus Wrote: Shannon, i was wondering if listening to DMSI for long time than you instructed causes any other side effect except tiredness? I have intense tiredness for the first 3-4 hours I wake up after which I feel absolutely fine.So it doesn't bother me as long as the effectiveness of the sub doesn't diminish.
Also should I alternate between masked and Ultrasonic tracks?

Congratulations on your success, and welcome to the active forum members community.

When I calculate how long to use it (loops), I don't stick around to plot out the whys and hows and wherefores. I just get the number of loops that will produce the best results for most people, and keep working on building it. So if you follow the instructions I give there's probably a 90% chance you're running it at optimal loops per day, and if you don't do that... I don't know what happens, except that it's not optimal. For some people it will overload, some will trigger increased resistance, some will be exhausted, etc. I don't try to find all that out. But if you want max effectiveness, follow the loops per day I specify.

If you want to alternate between masked and ultrasonic, be my guest. In 3.x branch, there will be a hybrid track option (as long as I can make it work). I am testing the hybrid track for MIR2. Not getting the results I thought I would, though. This either means it's completely overloading my mind (which should produce extreme exhaustion, but does not seem to be doing that) or the infection that was being attacked is gone or close to it.

We shall see, but alternating is perfectly fine, and your choice.

(11-02-2016, 04:27 AM)rise Wrote: congrats on losing your vcard

however i don't think this counts towards dmsi. The op is apparently very hit and girls wanted to fuk him without the sub. And he said he did well on tinder. If you do well on tinder you are good looking. No average or below average guy get those sorts of results.

I will only believe dmsi works when a guy like eternitys_child gets laid of it because hes not the considered good looking and many bad stereotypes are against him particularly in the west. No offence against him.

(11-02-2016, 04:27 AM)rise Wrote: congrats on losing your vcard

however i don't think this counts towards dmsi. The op is apparently very hit and girls wanted to fuk him without the sub. And he said he did well on tinder. If you do well on tinder you are good looking. No average or below average guy get those sorts of results.

I will only believe dmsi works when a guy like eternitys_child gets laid of it because hes not the considered good looking and many bad stereotypes are against him particularly in the west. No offence against him.

(11-02-2016, 05:50 AM)Narcissus Wrote: You have a fair point rise. It's why no where in my thread will you see me pointing out girls giving me IOI's etc. I have been able to get those without a use of single sub.However, I have been a virgin 24 years of my life.It wasn't until I used DMSI (3 days) that I lost it. Can you chalk this up to being a huge coincidence? Personally, I don't think so. I do feel there have been massive changes in me due to this sub even though I am fully aware 2.5 has no clearing. but there is absolutely no shred of doubt in my mind regarding the "siniping" and the "autopiloting" in this sub.Its amazing and most importantly...It works.

(10-26-2016, 05:06 AM)Shannon Wrote: 2.5 has no clearing enabled but it's approaching power levels that can plow through resistance and appear to have similar effect.

(11-02-2016, 06:08 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote:

(11-02-2016, 04:27 AM)rise Wrote: congrats on losing your vcard

however i don't think this counts towards dmsi. The op is apparently very hit and girls wanted to fuk him without the sub. And he said he did well on tinder. If you do well on tinder you are good looking. No average or below average guy get those sorts of results.

I will only believe dmsi works when a guy like eternitys_child gets laid of it because hes not the considered good looking and many bad stereotypes are against him particularly in the west. No offence against him.

(11-02-2016, 05:50 AM)Narcissus Wrote: You have a fair point rise. It's why no where in my thread will you see me pointing out girls giving me IOI's etc. I have been able to get those without a use of single sub.However, I have been a virgin 24 years of my life.It wasn't until I used DMSI (3 days) that I lost it. Can you chalk this up to being a huge coincidence? Personally, I don't think so. I do feel there have been massive changes in me due to this sub even though I am fully aware 2.5 has no clearing. but there is absolutely no shred of doubt in my mind regarding the "siniping" and the "autopiloting" in this sub.Its amazing and most importantly...It works.

http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5838-post-138918.html#pid138918

(10-26-2016, 05:06 AM)Shannon Wrote: 2.5 has no clearing enabled but it's approaching power levels that can plow through resistance and appear to have similar effect.

Rise, are you kidding?? 2.5 literally pushed Narcissus past the point of no return!! Whatever was stopping him from taking action, 2.5 took care of that!! DMSI has wording for the target to meet you halfway. The rest is up to you!!

Maybe in the final version, the target will go all the way!! Remember, we have the free will to walk away or just say no.

(11-02-2016, 08:12 AM)Have at ye Wrote: AFAIK, DMSI has the wording to have *you* meet them halfway - they're supposed to be going all the way.

Quote:Another thing, the meet halfway module, i sure as hell know that it's going to be different for a female than for a male

(08-13-2016, 11:41 AM)Shannon Wrote: No it's not. It's designed to get you to act on making sex happen. The key is ACTION ON DESIRE. It's just as hard to get a woman to act on that as it is a fear-filled man because in most cases, women are just as afraid of acting on their desires as fear-filled men.

(11-02-2016, 08:12 AM)Have at ye Wrote:

(11-02-2016, 06:08 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote:

(11-02-2016, 04:27 AM)rise Wrote: congrats on losing your vcard

however i don't think this counts towards dmsi. The op is apparently very hit and girls wanted to fuk him without the sub. And he said he did well on tinder. If you do well on tinder you are good looking. No average or below average guy get those sorts of results.

I will only believe dmsi works when a guy like eternitys_child gets laid of it because hes not the considered good looking and many bad stereotypes are against him particularly in the west. No offence against him.

(11-02-2016, 05:50 AM)Narcissus Wrote: You have a fair point rise. It's why no where in my thread will you see me pointing out girls giving me IOI's etc. I have been able to get those without a use of single sub.However, I have been a virgin 24 years of my life.It wasn't until I used DMSI (3 days) that I lost it. Can you chalk this up to being a huge coincidence? Personally, I don't think so. I do feel there have been massive changes in me due to this sub even though I am fully aware 2.5 has no clearing. but there is absolutely no shred of doubt in my mind regarding the "siniping" and the "autopiloting" in this sub.Its amazing and most importantly...It works.

http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5838-post-138918.html#pid138918

(10-26-2016, 05:06 AM)Shannon Wrote: 2.5 has no clearing enabled but it's approaching power levels that can plow through resistance and appear to have similar effect.

Rise, are you kidding?? 2.5 literally pushed Narcissus past the point of no return!! Whatever was stopping him from taking action, 2.5 took care of that!! DMSI has wording for the target to meet you halfway. The rest is up to you!!

Maybe in the final version, the target will go all the way!! Remember, we have the free will to walk away or just say no.

AFAIK, DMSI has the wording to have *you* meet them halfway - they're supposed to be going all the way.

(11-02-2016, 09:30 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(11-02-2016, 08:12 AM)Have at ye Wrote:

(11-02-2016, 06:08 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote:

(11-02-2016, 04:27 AM)rise Wrote: congrats on losing your vcard

however i don't think this counts towards dmsi. The op is apparently very hit and girls wanted to fuk him without the sub. And he said he did well on tinder. If you do well on tinder you are good looking. No average or below average guy get those sorts of results.

I will only believe dmsi works when a guy like eternitys_child gets laid of it because hes not the considered good looking and many bad stereotypes are against him particularly in the west. No offence against him.

(11-02-2016, 05:50 AM)Narcissus Wrote: You have a fair point rise. It's why no where in my thread will you see me pointing out girls giving me IOI's etc. I have been able to get those without a use of single sub.However, I have been a virgin 24 years of my life.It wasn't until I used DMSI (3 days) that I lost it. Can you chalk this up to being a huge coincidence? Personally, I don't think so. I do feel there have been massive changes in me due to this sub even though I am fully aware 2.5 has no clearing. but there is absolutely no shred of doubt in my mind regarding the "siniping" and the "autopiloting" in this sub.Its amazing and most importantly...It works.

http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5838-post-138918.html#pid138918

(10-26-2016, 05:06 AM)Shannon Wrote: 2.5 has no clearing enabled but it's approaching power levels that can plow through resistance and appear to have similar effect.

Rise, are you kidding?? 2.5 literally pushed Narcissus past the point of no return!! Whatever was stopping him from taking action, 2.5 took care of that!! DMSI has wording for the target to meet you halfway. The rest is up to you!!

Maybe in the final version, the target will go all the way!! Remember, we have the free will to walk away or just say no.

AFAIK, DMSI has the wording to have *you* meet them halfway - they're supposed to be going all the way.

Again... we have to do this in steps. One does not walk UP a staircase in one step. When we have it working with half way, we remove half way and keep working until they do all the work.

(11-02-2016, 09:30 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(11-02-2016, 08:12 AM)Have at ye Wrote:

(11-02-2016, 06:08 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote:

(11-02-2016, 04:27 AM)rise Wrote: congrats on losing your vcard

however i don't think this counts towards dmsi. The op is apparently very hit and girls wanted to fuk him without the sub. And he said he did well on tinder. If you do well on tinder you are good looking. No average or below average guy get those sorts of results.

I will only believe dmsi works when a guy like eternitys_child gets laid of it because hes not the considered good looking and many bad stereotypes are against him particularly in the west. No offence against him.

(11-02-2016, 05:50 AM)Narcissus Wrote: You have a fair point rise. It's why no where in my thread will you see me pointing out girls giving me IOI's etc. I have been able to get those without a use of single sub.However, I have been a virgin 24 years of my life.It wasn't until I used DMSI (3 days) that I lost it. Can you chalk this up to being a huge coincidence? Personally, I don't think so. I do feel there have been massive changes in me due to this sub even though I am fully aware 2.5 has no clearing. but there is absolutely no shred of doubt in my mind regarding the "siniping" and the "autopiloting" in this sub.Its amazing and most importantly...It works.

http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5838-post-138918.html#pid138918

(10-26-2016, 05:06 AM)Shannon Wrote: 2.5 has no clearing enabled but it's approaching power levels that can plow through resistance and appear to have similar effect.

Rise, are you kidding?? 2.5 literally pushed Narcissus past the point of no return!! Whatever was stopping him from taking action, 2.5 took care of that!! DMSI has wording for the target to meet you halfway. The rest is up to you!!

Maybe in the final version, the target will go all the way!! Remember, we have the free will to walk away or just say no.

AFAIK, DMSI has the wording to have *you* meet them halfway - they're supposed to be going all the way.

Again... we have to do this in steps. One does not walk UP a staircase in one step. When we have it working with half way, we remove half way and keep working until they do all the work.

(11-02-2016, 10:29 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(11-02-2016, 09:30 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(11-02-2016, 08:12 AM)Have at ye Wrote:

(11-02-2016, 06:08 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote:

(11-02-2016, 04:27 AM)rise Wrote: congrats on losing your vcard

however i don't think this counts towards dmsi. The op is apparently very hit and girls wanted to fuk him without the sub. And he said he did well on tinder. If you do well on tinder you are good looking. No average or below average guy get those sorts of results.

I will only believe dmsi works when a guy like eternitys_child gets laid of it because hes not the considered good looking and many bad stereotypes are against him particularly in the west. No offence against him.

(11-02-2016, 05:50 AM)Narcissus Wrote: You have a fair point rise. It's why no where in my thread will you see me pointing out girls giving me IOI's etc. I have been able to get those without a use of single sub.However, I have been a virgin 24 years of my life.It wasn't until I used DMSI (3 days) that I lost it. Can you chalk this up to being a huge coincidence? Personally, I don't think so. I do feel there have been massive changes in me due to this sub even though I am fully aware 2.5 has no clearing. but there is absolutely no shred of doubt in my mind regarding the "siniping" and the "autopiloting" in this sub.Its amazing and most importantly...It works.

http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5838-post-138918.html#pid138918

(10-26-2016, 05:06 AM)Shannon Wrote: 2.5 has no clearing enabled but it's approaching power levels that can plow through resistance and appear to have similar effect.

Rise, are you kidding?? 2.5 literally pushed Narcissus past the point of no return!! Whatever was stopping him from taking action, 2.5 took care of that!! DMSI has wording for the target to meet you halfway. The rest is up to you!!

Maybe in the final version, the target will go all the way!! Remember, we have the free will to walk away or just say no.

AFAIK, DMSI has the wording to have *you* meet them halfway - they're supposed to be going all the way.

Again... we have to do this in steps. One does not walk UP a staircase in one step. When we have it working with half way, we remove half way and keep working until they do all the work.

Hmm, forgive me for my Sargeness, but does this mean that you could be sitting in, say, a quiet hotel lobby and a woman who just arrived sees you and comes over to you and starts talking to you, starts attempting to get you in private and then proceeds to force herself on you?

Or is that too far removed from what is possible?

(11-02-2016, 10:31 AM)Have at ye Wrote:

(11-02-2016, 10:29 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(11-02-2016, 09:30 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(11-02-2016, 08:12 AM)Have at ye Wrote:

(11-02-2016, 06:08 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote: http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5838-post-138918.html#pid138918

Rise, are you kidding?? 2.5 literally pushed Narcissus past the point of no return!! Whatever was stopping him from taking action, 2.5 took care of that!! DMSI has wording for the target to meet you halfway. The rest is up to you!!

Maybe in the final version, the target will go all the way!! Remember, we have the free will to walk away or just say no.

AFAIK, DMSI has the wording to have *you* meet them halfway - they're supposed to be going all the way.

Again... we have to do this in steps. One does not walk UP a staircase in one step. When we have it working with half way, we remove half way and keep working until they do all the work.

Hmm, forgive me for my Sargeness, but does this mean that you could be sitting in, say, a quiet hotel lobby and a woman who just arrived sees you and comes over to you and starts talking to you, starts attempting to get you in private and then proceeds to force herself on you?

Or is that too far removed from what is possible?

Look at it this way.

Is it improbable? Sure.

Impossible? Certainly not.

(It's been known to happen)

Allow the program to skewer probability in your favor.