(07-24-2015, 10:52 AM)FrostedFake Wrote:

(07-24-2015, 10:34 AM)TheRealJustin Wrote:

(07-24-2015, 04:15 AM)XyzN Wrote:

(07-24-2015, 01:49 AM)TheRealJustin Wrote: Sounds to me like you are rapidly becoming less alpha, and turning into a boring working stiff instead. Workaholic does not equal alpha at all.

In some ways it does feel like that I suppose. It's not all bad though as I hinted at the end. It's (so far) made me more independent than I was before, something I wasn't so good at being before. I'll keep you guys updated for sure don't worry. i still have high hopes.
Afterall how am I supposed to get women and more friends when I can barely even get my own life in order. That's what I feel it's doing right now, helping me get my own life's responsibilities back on track before putting anyone else on.
Stage 3 is probably just the blunt of it as you said. Later stages hopefully likely smoothen that mindset I have right now.

Thanks Justin & CatMan for your inputs.

Yea, after going through more journals last night I see the first 3 stages are supposed to mess you up pretty bad. Well maybe not supposed to, but I guess they do. I'm still on the fence between AM6 and LTU but I am leaning more towards AM6. Before I wouldn't consider either because of OGSF, but everyone on here that has done ogsf seems safe and out of prison so I'm opened to it. I just need to cut back on drinking which I have significantly, but that's my main worry. Being blacked out shit faced with no guilt shame or fear could make me do things I regret, but as long as I never get that drunk, there's nothing to worry about.

I found a few people that say AM6 didn't do anything, but for the people who it had an effect on I can't find one that says they aren't grateful for the program. I am only going through 'first time' journals so I can see results from people who are starting fresh and seeing what AM6 does to them.

When going through all the LTU journals and questions people had about it I saw a lot of people saying LTU is in AM6 but I don't see that in the sales page anywhere, do you know if that's true? Or is it said because AM6 focuses on a lot of what LTU does so it's not the LTU script in there, but basically does the same thing plus more?

I'm pretty sure people say that LTU is in AM6 because it pretty much is LTU on steroids. AM6 isn't 5 times more expensive for nothing. Plus AM6 opens the gates to both Sex Magnet and Woman Magnet.

And yeah, the first few stages are rough, but stage 3 feels a lot better for me and am sure I will have a smoother ride from now on =)

(09-17-2015, 02:24 PM)eternitys_child Wrote: the kind of stuff you're mentioning like the inner turmoil and drive to do stuff + the perceivable insanity that comes along from not being able to do it.... I had the same battles in my head and I think it is that your inner self and independence is starting to coming out. These "resistance" moments were actually my defining points in that they were glimpses of what was to come.

I actually ended up quitting my job at the end of stage 1 of SM3 (3 and a half weeks after finishing my AM6 run), to pursue a passion and an experience I couldn't afford to miss. whereas before AM6, I would have been scared by financial insecurity of leaving and would have held onto the job knowing I'd be on the board of directors if i stayed 10 - 15 years........ but life's too short right?

your life responsibilities are frustrating you because an alpha is independent and fully self supporting, so you're being aligned to the alpha mindset

I know you said the feelings fell away as fast as they came, but they'll probably crop back up. When it comes to taking care of your physical appearance, just do it. like get that hair cut, and visit the mall (if it was to get clothes) if money permits. The confidence boost is pretty awesome And call up your old friends and just see how things are going. the circle of friends sequence is probably hinting at something here . I have no business giving you advice on your future (schooling and job) so I'll leave that to you and your journey with AM6

dude this is awesome to read man, i wish i knew you more before you started the subs so i could see how much you're growing, because i only have a few posts to go off of

(09-22-2015, 04:44 AM)Dzemoo Wrote: @TheRealJustin had the same thoughts as you, thats why i did the magnets more than am, i think wm would fit your definition of alpha better, and believe me ltu is worse on the workaholic component, i think am5 would be more of what you understan under alpha but its not sold anymore thats why i still have the old programs, i fighted with myself for a long time if i want to do alpha or not but decided to give it a run through knowing that it is more of an overall improvement program than a pure alpha sub

But shanon explained it good to me when i asked him about the status in am and wm, and that i feel that i dont have the same as i did with wm, he answered that am works on getting you achieve the status and wm give you the status by poeple, so its really dumb to have the status without having something to back it up, i am glad i have all the major programms so i can be different every 6 months