(12-16-2025, 02:46 PM)Diablojack00 Wrote:

(12-16-2025, 12:22 PM)Shannon Wrote: I'm confused.  What trip?

You seem to be making plans for weeks in advance, if I ama reading this right... you can't do that and have it work.  When I ask a woman out, I'm trying to get that date to be as close to NOW as possible.  Otherwise she loses interests, gets distracted, or someone else steps in. 

If that's what you're doing, ask yourself... why?

I agree. This girl stood at my table and talks to me even when she isn't my server. 

We were talking Dollywood and I asked if she wanted to go to Christmas in the Smokies. 

I didn’t think that through. 

So now she said she has a boyfriend. She wasn't my server Sunday but she did say Hi and waved as I said before and she said have a good day when I got up to put my jacket on.

So what I wanna do is just be my natural X4A-1511 self until she or the other girl comes back around.

I'd love your advice as well.

(12-19-2025, 09:37 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(12-16-2025, 02:46 PM)Diablojack00 Wrote: I agree. This girl stood at my table and talks to me even when she isn't my server. 

We were talking Dollywood and I asked if she wanted to go to Christmas in the Smokies. 

I didn’t think that through. 

So now she said she has a boyfriend. She wasn't my server Sunday but she did say Hi and waved as I said before and she said have a good day when I got up to put my jacket on.

So what I wanna do is just be my natural X4A-1511 self until she or the other girl comes back around.

I'd love your advice as well.

My advice is going to be twofold.  First, it seems your biggest issue is that you don't know what to do with female interest.  You need to learn how to deal with that.  I can't teach you that.

Second, I suggest that you may be giving off vibes of desperation, which either turns them off or scares them off.  You need to solve that too.  Without knowing enough to be able to know fore sure what is what, the only thing I can suggest is to stop caring about women.  Women are always after the men who don't care or don't want them, because they don't show desperation.  But you can't "stop caring to get women", because then you're really just masking your desire to pretend, which they smell a mile away and respond badly to.

Beyond that I don't know enough of what's going on to really help.

(12-19-2025, 11:32 PM)Diablojack00 Wrote:

(12-19-2025, 09:37 PM)Shannon Wrote: My advice is going to be twofold.  First, it seems your biggest issue is that you don't know what to do with female interest.  You need to learn how to deal with that.  I can't teach you that.

Second, I suggest that you may be giving off vibes of desperation, which either turns them off or scares them off.  You need to solve that too.  Without knowing enough to be able to know fore sure what is what, the only thing I can suggest is to stop caring about women.  Women are always after the men who don't care or don't want them, because they don't show desperation.  But you can't "stop caring to get women", because then you're really just masking your desire to pretend, which they smell a mile away and respond badly to.

Beyond that I don't know enough of what's going on to really help.

Fair enough. I can only say that I don't have situations like this when Im not on X4A-1511.

I don't feel desperation. 

I feel like I'm executing with other women and a lot of younger girls. 

Maybe I'm fighting the program but it's definitely not intentional. 

It's pretty much like When Im on X4A-1511 I'm too busy analyzing how the program effects the girls or Trying to be my own observing ego watching what happens.

I didn't experience that on OSC 6G

My female friends also got in my head and they tried to shame me for wanting 22 yr old girls and me being 44.

The female friends are my age.

I cut the friends off for now and I came here to get clear on things.