(09-08-2025, 02:49 PM)Shaun Wrote:

(09-08-2025, 12:26 PM)Shannon Wrote: By the way, there are multiple major reasons why someone might be experiencing ED.  Some of them are primarily dealing with chemistry, some deal primarily with physical damage or conditions, and some are mental/emotional/psychologically based.  If after a few months your issue is not showing signs of improvement, let me know and we can explore what's going on to try to find the best option for the specific issue.  Sometimes, a person will need a different subliminal first, and sometimes, they're just going after the wrong cause.  I'll be happy to help if after a few months things aren't improving.

Thank you, @Shannon  that means a lot. 

I believe I’ve narrowed it down to emotional, intimacy, psychological and or trauma issues. 

In my eyes, the plumbing all works, I get morning wood most mornings, but performing with my husband has been difficult. Even before meeting him, there were others that I’ve had the same ED problems. 
You may be right in that another subliminal needs to be run first. Might not even need the OED after running another subliminal.

(10-03-2025, 09:07 PM)Shannon Wrote: If you're having physical symptoms like that and you're sure that they're in response to OED, then your ED issues are going to be 100% inner child type stuff.  It means there's a part of you that is creating the ED as a way to hide from, escape from or prevent something that terrifies it.  If they are in response to OED you should have them fade out in 5-7 days.

(10-06-2025, 06:16 AM)Shaun Wrote:

(10-03-2025, 09:07 PM)Shannon Wrote: If you're having physical symptoms like that and you're sure that they're in response to OED, then your ED issues are going to be 100% inner child type stuff.  It means there's a part of you that is creating the ED as a way to hide from, escape from or prevent something that terrifies it.  If they are in response to OED you should have them fade out in 5-7 days.

Thank you, @Shannon
As always, it is great to hear your thoughts and suggestions. I hope you are feeling better!
I will say for the most part my physical symptoms have gone away. 
It may sound strange, now that I have almost no physical symptoms, I have a weird urge to run OED again. There were times I could tell OED was working. 
Could the physical symptoms be related to OED’s hormone optimization? Maybe my body just doesn’t know what to do with the hormones anymore LOL.

(10-06-2025, 04:17 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(10-06-2025, 06:16 AM)Shaun Wrote: Thank you, @Shannon
As always, it is great to hear your thoughts and suggestions. I hope you are feeling better!
I will say for the most part my physical symptoms have gone away. 
It may sound strange, now that I have almost no physical symptoms, I have a weird urge to run OED again. There were times I could tell OED was working. 
Could the physical symptoms be related to OED’s hormone optimization? Maybe my body just doesn’t know what to do with the hormones anymore LOL.

Your physical symptoms., in my opinion, are expressions of subconscious fear.  I think it is most likely that some subconscious part of you has developed a belief that makes it want to prevent erections because it fears some situation or consequence that might result.

I suggest that you keep going, and if you have the symptoms again, report back here.  If you keep stopping in response to the symptoms, and my theory is correct, you will only be training that part of you to keep causing the symptoms, if you respond by stopping.

If my theory is not correct, then that would not apply.

I think if you try using it again, and you get those symptoms again, it'll be pretty likely that my theory is correct.  If that happened again, I would suggest running something like OGSF to deal with the fears causing it.

(10-13-2025, 09:42 AM)Shaun Wrote:

(10-06-2025, 04:17 PM)Shannon Wrote: Your physical symptoms., in my opinion, are expressions of subconscious fear.  I think it is most likely that some subconscious part of you has developed a belief that makes it want to prevent erections because it fears some situation or consequence that might result.

I suggest that you keep going, and if you have the symptoms again, report back here.  If you keep stopping in response to the symptoms, and my theory is correct, you will only be training that part of you to keep causing the symptoms, if you respond by stopping.

If my theory is not correct, then that would not apply.

I think if you try using it again, and you get those symptoms again, it'll be pretty likely that my theory is correct.  If that happened again, I would suggest running something like OGSF to deal with the fears causing it.

I’m on day 2 of starting again. My lower abdominal and groin pain came back. 
@Shannon Is it possible this is related to the hormone optimization in OED? 
I started thinking what I was feeling was like “blue balls” 
I looked up epipdidymal hypertension and a lot of the same symptoms came up. Soreness in the lower abdomen and groin, sometimes nausea. There are suggestions of more frequent ejaculation, cold compress to relieve the symptoms. 

As for my panic attacks, I only get those when I’m about to go to bed with my husband. Never had one during the day. So I have to believe there is some fear there about performing in bed or being intimate. I’m hoping running OED will help with these. For now, I have some good breathing exercises and object focus to minimize any panic attack duration. 

I’m continuing on and see how it goes. Thank you again, for being so patient with me. Haha

(10-15-2025, 07:30 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(10-13-2025, 09:42 AM)Shaun Wrote: I’m on day 2 of starting again. My lower abdominal and groin pain came back. 
@Shannon Is it possible this is related to the hormone optimization in OED? 
I started thinking what I was feeling was like “blue balls” 
I looked up epipdidymal hypertension and a lot of the same symptoms came up. Soreness in the lower abdomen and groin, sometimes nausea. There are suggestions of more frequent ejaculation, cold compress to relieve the symptoms. 

As for my panic attacks, I only get those when I’m about to go to bed with my husband. Never had one during the day. So I have to believe there is some fear there about performing in bed or being intimate. I’m hoping running OED will help with these. For now, I have some good breathing exercises and object focus to minimize any panic attack duration. 

I’m continuing on and see how it goes. Thank you again, for being so patient with me. Haha

Hormone optimization would not be giving you the effects of blue balls without an overwhelming urge to have an orgasm to express it.  I think this is entirely psychological, from what you've told me so far.  When a part of your subconscious is trying to resist something it is abjectly terrified of, it in some cases will give you some sort of pain to dissuade you from continuing.  Headaches are common, but the pain can be almost anything.

Panic attacks don't happen to men for any hormonal reasons that I ever heard of.

So now we need to start looking at the situation.  How long have you had this ED?  What happened when it started?  What kind of scary, embarrassing, traumatic or shameful experiences happened around that time?  Are you responding to some fear that you developed as a child?

(10-16-2025, 06:39 PM)Shaun Wrote:

(10-15-2025, 07:30 PM)Shannon Wrote: Hormone optimization would not be giving you the effects of blue balls without an overwhelming urge to have an orgasm to express it.  I think this is entirely psychological, from what you've told me so far.  When a part of your subconscious is trying to resist something it is abjectly terrified of, it in some cases will give you some sort of pain to dissuade you from continuing.  Headaches are common, but the pain can be almost anything.

Panic attacks don't happen to men for any hormonal reasons that I ever heard of.

So now we need to start looking at the situation.  How long have you had this ED?  What happened when it started?  What kind of scary, embarrassing, traumatic or shameful experiences happened around that time?  Are you responding to some fear that you developed as a child?

@Shannon I don’t believe the panic attacks are hormone related, I’m convinced they are situational and related to intimacy. 

I have an idea of a childhood experience but I’d rather not explain it here as it is very sensitive. It has a lot of shame and fear surrounding it. If there is some private way I can explain it to you, I would explain it in more detail.

I’ve had ED off and on for a big portion of my adult life. One of my first big relationships was emotionally abusive with lots of ridiculing. Looking at that relationship now, it mirrored how my dad treated me as a child. 
I’ve used EMDR before with a therapist to help me with other childhood situations involving my dad. Perhaps I need more therapy work.

(10-21-2025, 01:50 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(10-16-2025, 06:39 PM)Shaun Wrote: @Shannon I don’t believe the panic attacks are hormone related, I’m convinced they are situational and related to intimacy. 

I have an idea of a childhood experience but I’d rather not explain it here as it is very sensitive. It has a lot of shame and fear surrounding it. If there is some private way I can explain it to you, I would explain it in more detail.

I’ve had ED off and on for a big portion of my adult life. One of my first big relationships was emotionally abusive with lots of ridiculing. Looking at that relationship now, it mirrored how my dad treated me as a child. 
I’ve used EMDR before with a therapist to help me with other childhood situations involving my dad. Perhaps I need more therapy work.

I'm not intending to say that panic attacks are hormone related.  Those are usually emotionally based.  

You don't have to tell me about your childhood experience.  What you need to do is identify the sources of the shame and fear, and work through them.  How you do that isn't important, as long as it works for you.  But you need to do it.

Another thing you want to keep in mind is that certain personality types strongly associate emotions with sex, and sometimes, specifically love with sex.  If you have that association, and the opportunity for sex wither does not include the right level or type of emotion, you may find that the parts of you that respond to those things do not respond.  

Finally, there are typically multiple different subconscious parts of a person that respond to sexual stimulus, and they may have entirely different triggers.  I know a man who responds to deeply intimate loving sex, but he also responds to sex where the women he is having sex with are acting like out of control whores who just want to be fucked and used for sex.  Completely different stimulus, and completely different parts of his subconscious responding.  Keep this in mind when you're looking at what you respond to.

In your case, I suggest that you'll be well served by doing more EMDR work.  You may also find it useful to use EHPRA, OGSF or the next subliminal I release.