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RE: DMSI 3.5 --- Long-awaited! - rono - 01-20-2022
Day 9 - quick check-in:
In general, feeling my energy level buoy up a bit. Easier to be with my woman, she's more agreeable in general, and, while she always tries to be pleasing, she is doing much better at that. I do like the way I'm feeling while running this sub.
At the gym today, after my workout, I was in the sauna because I've been reading about the health benefits and am giving it a try (seems to really help). It is a co-ed sauna so you keep your clothing on--at least a bathing suit.
A young asian man fully clothed in sweats and hoody came in plopped down. I was on the opposite side wearing only my swimming trunks and shoes.
He asked, "Why are you in here? Trying to lose some weight?" He seemed to doubt the advisability of the latter because I am not heavy or fat. 6'2" and about 187lbs good muscle definition, though no six-pack. I said "De-toxing, you?" He said he was dropping weight for a wrestling weigh-in. I commented he didn't look like he needed to drop much and, in fact he really only needed to drop a pound or two. He asked me my goals, I said trying to get my strength back and get some of my lost muscle mass and strength back following my round of delta. He said, "You? You look great!"
Now I've been going to the gym for decades, and this is the first time in years anyone has complimented me. I am thinking that this must have been the result of the 'celebrity effect', maybe?
Either way, it felt good.
Not getting IOIs from any women, but then most of the ones I see at the time I go to the gym just aren't my type. In my book they are mostly 6s and 7s. Nothing too exciting. I wonder if that is why they don't give a second look, etc. Since I'm not likely to turn my head for them, maybe the same applies? Maybe we'll have a couple cute waitresses or stewardesses while we're on our trip. That will be the test.
For now though, it is def working with the wife. Also, though this isn't as weird as it sounds, it is working on my daughters in that they are treating me with greater warmth and deference than before. Maybe 5-10% more warmth. Don't be scandalized, they are 35-40 year-olds and the warmth is just smiles, warmer hugs, seeking me out to greet me, wanting a little conversation at a time when they would usually rush off, etc. Perhaps this is, again, the celebrity effect.
RE: DMSI 3.5 --- Long-awaited! - rono - 01-24-2022
Day13 ----- Not much of a report
Well, I started playing 2 loops per night of the silent version at night with my wife 2 days ago. Not much difference yet. She has been a little more affectionate, more forgiving/understanding,
We went to a funeral and one other event. I continue to notice people responding very positively to me. A young man that I have given advice to a few times, approached me at the funeral like I was his long lost father. Then he actually asked me to adopt him (he's married w/ kids, but has a few minor issues in his relationships which I have been coaching him on). Someone that I respect a LOT actually approached me and invited me to a place of honor next to him even though there were others there that were certainly more deserving of the 'place of honor' than I.
Women have been warm and very chatty with me. If I approach a woman to introduce myself or to ask a question, they start to smile a lot, appear a little nervous, and they can just keep our conversation going with a minimum of input from me.
I'm not gay at all. I'm VERY hetero and VERY monogamous. Because of these reasons, I find it very interesting that men's reactions to me are much easier to note. The reactions are NOT sexual nor flirty and they are NOT reactions from anyone that is even remotely gay-ish. It is probably the 'celebrity effect' but it seems to make any respect others had for me gets doubled. They seem extremely open about expressing respect and affection by offering to do things for you or expressing a desire to do things together--work projects, etc.
It will be interesting to be around some single women to see if they respond differently, because I just realized that 98% of the women I saw at this past weekend's events were married and likely happily so.
I have a travel day tomorrow--heading for a tropical island. I will keep an eye out for how others respond to me.
Just, in general, I would suggest that exposing her to the sub has simply made the effects that I was observing when I listened to it alone more pronounced. I will keep watching to see if guys hit on her (this has happened in the past, so it might happen.), she is in her upper sixties, in decent shape, carries a few extra pounds but not noticeably overweight. So we'll see.
RE: DMSI 3.5 --- Long-awaited! - rono - 01-28-2022
Aloha, All!
Hanging out in a secretive location in the middle of the Pacific on a lonely beach in a comfortable little cottage. Went kayaking, made our coffee, cleaned up and now it's time for a little 'desk work' but first a brief update.
3.5 is definitely superior to the 3.3. I used it under exactly these circumstances and it was a lot of fun but wow- more fun than ever now.
I will list off quickly a few observations/experiences not tied to a particular day, days blend into one another here... but first a couple preliminary observations that can help frame our experiences.
1. We did a couple rounds of DMSI 3.3 before and noticed permanent changes in the way we related. e.g. she was more open and less inhibited with me probably due to an increase in confidence and desire--a heady mix for a young (or older) lady.
2. Btwn August and December we ran the new Aura of Love and experienced some changes that also appear to be permanent. Less friction btwn us and she in particular seems very ready to let go of little things that she would allow to become a big deal. This still happens, but the 'recovery cycle' may only be seconds or minutes rather than more drawn out.
3. I did the DMSI 3.5 without her during the previous couple weeks and noticed it helped me alot.
4. I changed my meds a bit (TRT) around the same time as starting DMSI 3.5 and felt like the change made a bit difference, but not sure if it is the sub or a combo effect (most likely)
5. During sex I have been using the OE (orgasm enhancer) for great effect. Have only used this episodically, a rotation or two right before and during amorous times.
Now for sub observations: (I am playing the silent version during the night to both of us)
- We both seem to have a much more positive and energetic vibe. But at the same time we are both tireder than usual and find it easy to give in to that tiredness and prioritize sleep. Prioritizing sleep has been hard for my wife in the past, but she's totally on board at this point.
- A situation arose in the airport or a store (travel day--don't remember where this actually happened), but my wife found herself sucked into an awkward exchange between a customer and either a store employee or another customer and was able, with a smile and cheery disposition de-fuse it and help both people all the while feeling comfortable in herself. It happened very naturally, though this is not her default behavior in public where she would avoid talking to strangers unless specifically asked a question or such.
- Wife is now kind of initiating sex and her inhibitions are really dropping away. More willing to try stuff, and just cut loose and enjoy sexy, amorous behaviors. Also, less judgy when I suggest something new or kinky.
- She was in a little store on the island and found that the shopkeeper really appreciated her, the shopgirl chatted her up and told her she hoped we'd have a chance to stop in again cause she liked chatting with her. My wife and I are usually friendly with people with whom we do business because our philosophy is to treat people with respect and like actual human beings with feelings, a background, families, etc. but this girl was wanting to be friends with us.
In the few outside contacts we make, I am watching for a man to take some interest in my wife or just the flirty stuff. I *think* I have seen some warming there, but nothing distinct enough to share yet.
That's all for now, still really enjoying it at 2 reps per night.
Aloha!
Rono
RE: DMSI 3.5 --- Long-awaited! - Shannon - 01-29-2022
Quote:@Shannon: I assume this makes sense because the safeties would prevent someone in a relationship from responding, correct?
That would be my assessment.
RE: DMSI 3.5 --- Long-awaited! - Shannon - 01-29-2022
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RE: DMSI 3.5 --- Long-awaited! - rono - 02-12-2022
@Shannon: Hey Shannon-- what is this for? I thought it might disappear as something mistakenly posted to the thread, but maybe you intended to put it here for some reason?
--RonO
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RE: DMSI 3.5 --- Long-awaited! - rono - 02-12-2022
Hi All,
I'm a few weeks in now. My wife is about 3 weeks in, also.
Not seeing that much different. Though there were some interesting but (I believe) completely unrelated effects that I am thinking about and may share more about at a future time:
1) my libido tanked about 10 or 12 days ago. Went from high, to 'who cares' overnight.. This is an emotional, psychological and even physical thing. Strange-- in paradise, relaxing, having fun with my sexy wife and had to TRY to feel something. At least I was able to drum up enough enthusiasm to pull it off many times, but wow, never lacked enthusiasm for sex before.
2) About a week ago started feeling much more focused, centered and aware of my life and those around me. Sort of a Love reaction as well. Felt overwhelming concern, appreciation and gratitude for those around me. While I had felt flashes of this in the past few and far between, even right now I could close my eyes and turn on this deep source of compassion and gratitude.
Oh, and yesterday, when I spoke Spanish (I am bilingual) to the couple that cleans our house, chatting with them for minutes on end, my comprehension was better than it had ever been, and my fluency was perfect, no searching for words, no circumlocutions--it flowed better than ever. AND that is after not speaking any Spanish for 2 straight weeks.
There was one event on our return flight across the Pacific. There was an young, attractive Japanese flight attendant. The NICEST flight attendant I have had since probably pre-2001. Certainly the best in over a decade. She chatted me up, asked for advice, acted curious about our trip and our normal lives. She did seem mostly attracted/directed to me though.
Thoughts? @Shannon
RE: DMSI 3.5 --- Long-awaited! - Shannon - 02-14-2022
(02-12-2022, 06:13 PM)rono Wrote: Hi All,
I'm a few weeks in now. My wife is about 3 weeks in, also.
Not seeing that much different. Though there were some interesting but (I believe) completely unrelated effects that I am thinking about and may share more about at a future time:
1) my libido tanked about 10 or 12 days ago. Went from high, to 'who cares' overnight.. This is an emotional, psychological and even physical thing. Strange-- in paradise, relaxing, having fun with my sexy wife and had to TRY to feel something. At least I was able to drum up enough enthusiasm to pull it off many times, but wow, never lacked enthusiasm for sex before.
2) About a week ago started feeling much more focused, centered and aware of my life and those around me. Sort of a Love reaction as well. Felt overwhelming concern, appreciation and gratitude for those around me. While I had felt flashes of this in the past few and far between, even right now I could close my eyes and turn on this deep source of compassion and gratitude.
Oh, and yesterday, when I spoke Spanish (I am bilingual) to the couple that cleans our house, chatting with them for minutes on end, my comprehension was better than it had ever been, and my fluency was perfect, no searching for words, no circumlocutions--it flowed better than ever. AND that is after not speaking any Spanish for 2 straight weeks.
There was one event on our return flight across the Pacific. There was an young, attractive Japanese flight attendant. The NICEST flight attendant I have had since probably pre-2001. Certainly the best in over a decade. She chatted me up, asked for advice, acted curious about our trip and our normal lives. She did seem mostly attracted/directed to me though.
Thoughts? @Shannon
As to #1, that has to be either exhaustion or a subconscious refusal to execute. Exhaustion could be from trying so hard to maintain the hormone/pheromone production, or the energy. More likely seems to be that some part of you refuses to execute because of something you don't want to happen.
The rest, well, those could certainly be side effects of the program achieving its goals in various ways.
RE: DMSI 3.5 --- Long-awaited! - rono - 02-16-2022
Hi All,
So checking in again. We've been running 2 loops each night--most nights.
Some days/evenings it has seemed that there was a weird tension between me and my wife, so I skip a night or two and maybe just play one loop during the day. After a day or so things go back to normal.
The only new thing I have noticed and am not sure this is the sub... I enter situations-- especially new situations with this buzzy energy, which at times is almost too much.
Also, I have noticed (and this may have nothing to do with the sub), that I get easily over-excited, in that good things happen, I see people I like, etc. but my nervous system responds with "too much!" and gets all jangly. Perhaps taking a longer break from the sub? I don't know. These things seem unrelated to me.
What do you think @Shannon?
Rono
RE: DMSI 3.5 --- Long-awaited! - Shannon - 02-16-2022
(02-16-2022, 10:51 AM)rono Wrote: Hi All,
So checking in again. We've been running 2 loops each night--most nights.
Some days/evenings it has seemed that there was a weird tension between me and my wife, so I skip a night or two and maybe just play one loop during the day. After a day or so things go back to normal.
The only new thing I have noticed and am not sure this is the sub... I enter situations-- especially new situations with this buzzy energy, which at times is almost too much.
Also, I have noticed (and this may have nothing to do with the sub), that I get easily over-excited, in that good things happen, I see people I like, etc. but my nervous system responds with "too much!" and gets all jangly. Perhaps taking a longer break from the sub? I don't know. These things seem unrelated to me.
What do you think @Shannon?
Rono
It seems possible that the energy of the aura and the energy of the excitement may be overloading you for some unknown reason. In your shoes, I would take a while off and see how things change as the effects bloom and fade over about a month. Then use that knowledge to assess your situation as to what you wish to do going forward.
RE: DMSI 3.5 --- Long-awaited! - rono - 02-16-2022
(02-16-2022, 11:05 AM)Shannon Wrote:(02-16-2022, 10:51 AM)rono Wrote: Hi All,
So checking in again. We've been running 2 loops each night--most nights.
Some days/evenings it has seemed that there was a weird tension between me and my wife, so I skip a night or two and maybe just play one loop during the day. After a day or so things go back to normal.
The only new thing I have noticed and am not sure this is the sub... I enter situations-- especially new situations with this buzzy energy, which at times is almost too much.
Also, I have noticed (and this may have nothing to do with the sub), that I get easily over-excited, in that good things happen, I see people I like, etc. but my nervous system responds with "too much!" and gets all jangly. Perhaps taking a longer break from the sub? I don't know. These things seem unrelated to me.
What do you think @Shannon?
Rono
It seems possible that the energy of the aura and the energy of the excitement may be overloading you for some unknown reason. In your shoes, I would take a while off and see how things change as the effects bloom and fade over about a month. Then use that knowledge to assess your situation as to what you wish to do going forward.
@Shannon: Sounds like you're recommending taking a whole Month off... I can do that, but I guess I shouldn't use any of the subs during that time except for an episode perhaps?
I should also add, that for the last 3.5 weeks, I have been virtually pain free after being in fairly significant pain throughout November, December and Early January. I believe I started the sub second week of Jan or so. Could the 'aura' or the 'energy' be bringing this about?
Rono
RE: DMSI 3.5 --- Long-awaited! - Shannon - 02-16-2022
(02-16-2022, 04:55 PM)rono Wrote:(02-16-2022, 11:05 AM)Shannon Wrote:(02-16-2022, 10:51 AM)rono Wrote: Hi All,
So checking in again. We've been running 2 loops each night--most nights.
Some days/evenings it has seemed that there was a weird tension between me and my wife, so I skip a night or two and maybe just play one loop during the day. After a day or so things go back to normal.
The only new thing I have noticed and am not sure this is the sub... I enter situations-- especially new situations with this buzzy energy, which at times is almost too much.
Also, I have noticed (and this may have nothing to do with the sub), that I get easily over-excited, in that good things happen, I see people I like, etc. but my nervous system responds with "too much!" and gets all jangly. Perhaps taking a longer break from the sub? I don't know. These things seem unrelated to me.
What do you think @Shannon?
Rono
It seems possible that the energy of the aura and the energy of the excitement may be overloading you for some unknown reason. In your shoes, I would take a while off and see how things change as the effects bloom and fade over about a month. Then use that knowledge to assess your situation as to what you wish to do going forward.
@Shannon: Sounds like you're recommending taking a whole Month off... I can do that, but I guess I shouldn't use any of the subs during that time except for an episode perhaps?
I should also add, that for the last 3.5 weeks, I have been virtually pain free after being in fairly significant pain throughout November, December and Early January. I believe I started the sub second week of Jan or so. Could the 'aura' or the 'energy' be bringing this about?
Rono
I suggest running nothing for a month because I don't yet know exactly how long 5.8G will take to bloom and fade. But it would indeed be nothing, and it may not require a month.
It is entirely possible that the aura may have brought about your pain relief, and it could be a couple other things from the sub as well (making yourself more sexually attractive, enabling yourself to be more sexually active, adjusting your hormones for optimal pheromones) or it may have nothing to do with DMSI at all. You'll find out if you take the time off and observe and report on the bloom and fade.
RE: DMSI 3.5 --- Long-awaited! - rono - 02-17-2022
(02-16-2022, 10:25 PM)Shannon Wrote:(02-16-2022, 04:55 PM)rono Wrote:(02-16-2022, 11:05 AM)Shannon Wrote:(02-16-2022, 10:51 AM)rono Wrote: Hi All,
So checking in again. We've been running 2 loops each night--most nights.
Some days/evenings it has seemed that there was a weird tension between me and my wife, so I skip a night or two and maybe just play one loop during the day. After a day or so things go back to normal.
The only new thing I have noticed and am not sure this is the sub... I enter situations-- especially new situations with this buzzy energy, which at times is almost too much.
Also, I have noticed (and this may have nothing to do with the sub), that I get easily over-excited, in that good things happen, I see people I like, etc. but my nervous system responds with "too much!" and gets all jangly. Perhaps taking a longer break from the sub? I don't know. These things seem unrelated to me.
What do you think @Shannon?
Rono
It seems possible that the energy of the aura and the energy of the excitement may be overloading you for some unknown reason. In your shoes, I would take a while off and see how things change as the effects bloom and fade over about a month. Then use that knowledge to assess your situation as to what you wish to do going forward.
@Shannon: Sounds like you're recommending taking a whole Month off... I can do that, but I guess I shouldn't use any of the subs during that time except for an episode perhaps?
I should also add, that for the last 3.5 weeks, I have been virtually pain free after being in fairly significant pain throughout November, December and Early January. I believe I started the sub second week of Jan or so. Could the 'aura' or the 'energy' be bringing this about?
Rono
I suggest running nothing for a month because I don't yet know exactly how long 5.8G will take to bloom and fade. But it would indeed be nothing, and it may not require a month.
It is entirely possible that the aura may have brought about your pain relief, and it could be a couple other things from the sub as well (making yourself more sexually attractive, enabling yourself to be more sexually active, adjusting your hormones for optimal pheromones) or it may have nothing to do with DMSI at all. You'll find out if you take the time off and observe and report on the bloom and fade.
Fair enough! Last night was our first of 'n' nights without the sub. So far the only effect is that I feel less clear-headed. But that could be that I wanted to sleep longer than my wife let me
I assume 'bloom' is the manifestation of the primary effects of the sub. Fade is pretty clear, those effects become less pronounced or disappear completely.
BUT if that sub really relieved the chronic pain like that.... WOW. Wish I had that in a bottle.
RE: DMSI 3.5 --- Long-awaited! - RTBoss - 02-17-2022
I first noticed the pain-relieving aspect of the DMSI aura in the 2.x series. I had injured my left hip capsule pretty badly from overstretching in a yoga class. It had hurt daily for over 6 months, and on DMSI, it just disappeared. Amazing, really.