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RE: DMSI-3.3.1D 5.5G Break Free - Shannon - 01-27-2019
(01-27-2019, 09:55 AM)Williamx25 Wrote:(01-27-2019, 05:36 AM)Shannon Wrote: I wonder of this is interfering with what DMSI is trying to accomplish.
What do you mean? The fact that I have fapped? Or the kundalini exercises?
I do my kundalini yoga postures during the day, I listen to the sub during the night.
I am not wasting away semen or sexual energy with yoga. I am clearing energy blockages, all my life force should remain intact.
I think this actually helps, with the FRM doing its thing at night....
I felt better, after I did my first chakra cleansing yoga exercises. It is definitely doing something in my body and mind.
Why do you think this could interfere with DMSI ?
Btw those exercises are no joke, it’s pretty intense, gets you super warm, almost sweating, and you really need strength and flexible muscles lol.
Here, take a look at the exercises: https://blog.spiritvoyage.com/7-kundalini-yoga-postures-to-clear-the-chakras/
What do you think?
I mean, if you are consciously and intentionally moving energy around, are you undoing or preventing what DMSI is trying to do?
It strikes me that you feel guilty for having masturbated. If that is true, it means you don't understand why masturbation should be avoided. There is no reason to feel guilty about it, and in fact I'm not sure I agree fully with the "no fap" movement. I agree that pornography can be damaging, but I have seen mixed results from people as to "no fap", and it's effects as a result of their issues with pornography. I also note that you guys doing no-fap are continually jerking off and then starting over. That means you're not getting anywhere, and I have seen this behavior before, in alcoholics who aren't ready to quit yet. Except unlike some of you, I don't see masturbation as an addiction. I don't see alcoholism as an addiction, either; rather, I believe that both of them are just being used as coping mechanisms to deal with guilt, shame, fear and/or pain.
You guys seem to be talking yourselves into beliefs that cause you to continually feel worse and worse about yourselves over masturbation. And with yoga, I understand that the goal is to move energy around and "preserve life force", but again...
A) Are you interfering consciously with what DMSI is trying to get your subconscious to do?
B) If so, is that a clever way to self sabotage?
C) Are you masturbating as a form of self sabotage for the program, or something else?
RE: DMSI-3.3.1D 5.5G Break Free - Williamx25 - 01-28-2019
(01-27-2019, 02:24 PM)Shannon Wrote:(01-27-2019, 09:55 AM)Williamx25 Wrote:(01-27-2019, 05:36 AM)Shannon Wrote: I wonder of this is interfering with what DMSI is trying to accomplish.
What do you mean? The fact that I have fapped? Or the kundalini exercises?
I do my kundalini yoga postures during the day, I listen to the sub during the night.
I am not wasting away semen or sexual energy with yoga. I am clearing energy blockages, all my life force should remain intact.
I think this actually helps, with the FRM doing its thing at night....
I felt better, after I did my first chakra cleansing yoga exercises. It is definitely doing something in my body and mind.
Why do you think this could interfere with DMSI ?
Btw those exercises are no joke, it’s pretty intense, gets you super warm, almost sweating, and you really need strength and flexible muscles lol.
Here, take a look at the exercises: https://blog.spiritvoyage.com/7-kundalini-yoga-postures-to-clear-the-chakras/
What do you think?
I mean, if you are consciously and intentionally moving energy around, are you undoing or preventing what DMSI is trying to do?
It strikes me that you feel guilty for having masturbated. If that is true, it means you don't understand why masturbation should be avoided. There is no reason to feel guilty about it, and in fact I'm not sure I agree fully with the "no fap" movement. I agree that pornography can be damaging, but I have seen mixed results from people as to "no fap", and it's effects as a result of their issues with pornography. I also note that you guys doing no-fap are continually jerking off and then starting over. That means you're not getting anywhere, and I have seen this behavior before, in alcoholics who aren't ready to quit yet. Except unlike some of you, I don't see masturbation as an addiction. I don't see alcoholism as an addiction, either; rather, I believe that both of them are just being used as coping mechanisms to deal with guilt, shame, fear and/or pain.
You guys seem to be talking yourselves into beliefs that cause you to continually feel worse and worse about yourselves over masturbation. And with yoga, I understand that the goal is to move energy around and "preserve life force", but again...
A) Are you interfering consciously with what DMSI is trying to get your subconscious to do?
B) If so, is that a clever way to self sabotage?
C) Are you masturbating as a form of self sabotage for the program, or something else?
@Shannon
Okay I didn't know that yoga could possibly interfere with the program, my intention was to get the energy flowing so that I can easily do No-fap, the nofap is needed for DMSI, to build your sexual aura etc, that's what i've heard....
I will abstain from fapping and kundalini yoga, because both are a way to sabotage the program I think, even though I don't fully understand how yoga could interfere with the program. But still, I won't do the exercises during this testing phase.
The masturbating is a form of self sabotage I think, maybe my subconscious mind is trying to find a way out of his misery. He doesn't like the program at all.
What I do know is that I don't execute. I have to wait for a few weeks I think. I also don't know at what point in my life I start executing, or which behaviors I subconsciously start to emit. I have my proof when a girl approaches me, otherwise I don't have a method to determine if the program works for me.
RE: DMSI-3.3.1D 5.5G Break Free - Shannon - 01-28-2019
I'm not saying yoga is sabotage, or damages DMSI, but I suspect it. Just to clarify.
Unless I can figure out the why of resistance more clearly, we seem to have only one option for creating execution. That is, give the subconscious nothing else it can do.
I would much rather figure out the why more deeply and then use persuasion, but so far both goals elude me.
RE: DMSI-3.3.1D 5.5G Break Free - Williamx25 - 01-28-2019
(01-28-2019, 01:00 PM)Shannon Wrote: I'm not saying yoga is sabotage, or damages DMSI, but I suspect it. Just to clarify.
Unless I can figure out the why of resistance more clearly, we seem to have only one option for creating execution. That is, give the subconscious nothing else it can do.
I would much rather figure out the why more deeply and then use persuasion, but so far both goals elude me.
@Shannon
I see, I will keep the variables constant. It is in our best interest that I do this testing phase correctly without too much other stuff going on.
I get stares from people, this morning I walked to the bus station and I felt and saw people staring at me. But I also get this normally. I wear decent fashionable clothes, so i'm used to getting some stares. I don't know if the program is enhancing this.
Sometimes I also feel uncomfortable when people stare at me, because I have a little bit of knock knees, and when I walk in front of people I sometimes feel embarrassed.
This feeling goes away when i'm on a long nofap streak, increased confidence etc, also I think my subconscious mind is still resisting because I am in the middle of dieting down to 7% bodyfat. I'm at 30% bodyfat, and that low self image and embarrasment is really hindering my progress I think.
I feel that if i'd be shredded with muscles, the DMSI program would work better, or at least i'd start executing because my mind is 100% convinced that I am a real catch for women. That definitely hinders me now. But i'm working on it.
There is still this deep rooted subconscious fear and embarrasment of me being fat, ashamed of my body, avoiding contact with women, I have a double chin, problems with eye contact. But I feel my eye contact is getting more confident.
I feel that when I am down to 7% bodyfat, my facial features are maxed out, that will give me maxed looks, and a masculine face, square jaw, maybe cheekbones etc. It will give me huge confidence and I am sure I will start to approach women myself.
RE: DMSI-3.3.1D 5.5G Break Free - Shannon - 01-28-2019
So what you're saying is, fear is currently preventing you from accepting the goals of DMSI as being possible, or perhaps fear is why you are bigger than you want to be as a defense mechanism against the same thing that you're resisting DMSI for...
RE: DMSI-3.3.1D 5.5G Break Free - Williamx25 - 01-29-2019
(01-28-2019, 02:27 PM)Shannon Wrote: So what you're saying is, fear is currently preventing you from accepting the goals of DMSI as being possible, or perhaps fear is why you are bigger than you want to be as a defense mechanism against the same thing that you're resisting DMSI for...
@Shannon
Indeed. And that fear is deep rooted, since childhood. I was always overweight, chubby, man boobs, and on top of that, I went bald in my puberty.
This whole appearance thing is holding me back, therefore my subconscious mind keeps struggling with accepting this program and the goals.
I must admit that I slept like a baby last night. I woke up fully rested, I had some days that had less sleep quality. But today, I woke up 100% recharged.
I think i’m processing things and I lost 10 pounds, I am positive.
RE: DMSI-3.3.1D 5.5G Break Free - Tigerismyspirit - 01-29-2019
(01-29-2019, 04:45 AM)Williamx25 Wrote: Indeed. And that fear is deep rooted, since childhood. I was always overweight, chubby, man boobs, and on top of that, I went bald in my puberty.
This whole appearance thing is holding me back, therefore my subconscious mind keeps struggling with accepting this program and the goals.
I don't know whether you or I wrote it! Added to that, I grew up in a very conservative religious house with toxic people around me that always tried to put me down and gave me bad advice on women, love, sex, and marriage.
RE: DMSI-3.3.1D 5.5G Break Free - Shannon - 01-29-2019
(01-29-2019, 04:45 AM)Williamx25 Wrote:(01-28-2019, 02:27 PM)Shannon Wrote: So what you're saying is, fear is currently preventing you from accepting the goals of DMSI as being possible, or perhaps fear is why you are bigger than you want to be as a defense mechanism against the same thing that you're resisting DMSI for...
@Shannon
Indeed. And that fear is deep rooted, since childhood. I was always overweight, chubby, man boobs, and on top of that, I went bald in my puberty.
This whole appearance thing is holding me back, therefore my subconscious mind keeps struggling with accepting this program and the goals.
I must admit that I slept like a baby last night. I woke up fully rested, I had some days that had less sleep quality. But today, I woke up 100% recharged.
I think i’m processing things and I lost 10 pounds, I am positive.
Inside of every one of us, is someone who can attract sex-interested people of the gender we most prefer to have sex with. Why? Because no matter what our current "radio station" is, there are "listeners" to that "station" who want sex. And if you are okay with the other people who are attuned to that channel for having sex with, all you have to do is open yourself to finding and having sex with them.
But if they're not what you want, change yourself in the ways that result in changing your "station" to their "station" and then you will notice they become open to having sex with you!
All of this is possible because of one of the simplest and most powerful laws of the universe, which is...
Like Attracts Like.
That is why we must be grateful for what we want, as if we already have it, to get it through manifestation, because gratitude for having it is a result of having it, and having it and responding with gratitude attunes you to the "channel" in which you have it, which forces it to come to you to make your "channel" fit your actions.
I don't care how ugly a person starts off being, they can change themselves in some way that will make them more attractive. It may be physically, it may be mentally, it may be emotionally, it may be some combination of the three. And short of being the Elephant Man, you're going to find someone who wants to have sex with you when you make yourself more attractive.
The only reason people struggle with making the change to more attractive and achieving the goals of the program is the parts of them who have fears which prevent it, and they don't yet understand that it's a good thing, not something to be feared.
So William, now that you're starting to execute... welcome to the party!
RE: DMSI-3.3.1D 5.5G Break Free - Williamx25 - 01-31-2019
Thursday january 31th
7:00 PM
Damn, time flies, january 2019 is almost officially over.
I’m currently on my 3 day break from DMSI, I start the second week at february 2th.
I stayed up late last night, woke up groggy, and i’m cramming for finals. Tomorrow I have my last physics exam.
Thank you @Shannon for the encouraging words, so let me get this straight. The fact that I worry about my fat body and that deep rooted subconscious fear is actually a good thing? It means I am making progress and i’m starting to execute ?
RE: DMSI-3.3.1D 5.5G Break Free - Shannon - 01-31-2019
Are you experiencing a difference as a result of using the program? I would say so.
RE: DMSI-3.3.1D 5.5G Break Free - Williamx25 - 02-01-2019
(01-31-2019, 07:34 PM)Shannon Wrote: Are you experiencing a difference as a result of using the program? I would say so.
@Shannon
That is hard tot tell, but I can look people better in the eyes now. It seems that I have more intense eye contact, without actually knowing it I think. It looks more confident. I must admit that I feel better overall.
I talked to the girlfriend of my roommate last night, but she doesn’t seem affected, at least what I can tell, maybe she’s very good at hiding it.
But the moment I spoke to her, she started to caress her neck with her hand. But she usually does that, when I speak with her. Maybe it’s an Italian thing, she’s Italian. They use more body language and are more expressive than we north-west europeans. We are pretty cold, in our interaction with eachother, with people, Dutch, Swiss and German people,
Are pretty reserved, detached and serious.
But I do think I give off more attractive body language, it’s a small start, so i’m excited to see what the effects are after a few months.
I am in engineering so I don’t encounter much women... There are a few in my class, but they aren’t my type, and they are not hot girls, maybe 5-6 or something. And they have boyfriends of course,
Other than that, I only encounter women on public transportation, and the gym and grocery store. I’m not actively approaching / doing PUA stuff because I don’t have time for that.
Actually I don’t have a baseline, I never approached women, so maybe this program will enhance it alot.
RE: DMSI-3.3.1D 5.5G Break Free - Shannon - 02-01-2019
Remember that the first steps are internal, so don't get too much going in the way of expectations for external yet. But like I said... welcome to the club.
RE: DMSI-3.3.1D 5.5G Break Free - Williamx25 - 02-02-2019
February 2th
11:30 AM
Starting my second week, or shall I better say, second cycle,
Each cycle is 10 days, so 7 days listening with 3 days off.
I count those 3 days also as “listening time” because DMSI is still working in your subconscious mind.
It’s better to calculate with number 10, so I can easily track how much days I have been listening in the future.
I’m at my parents house, today I listen during the day, with my earbuds in.
Family is coming over and I can’t disturb them with my DMSI during the night because some family members will sleep in my bedroom as well. So normally I had use the stereospeakers on ultra sonic but that isn’t possible.
2th cycle:
DMSI: day 1
Nofap: day 0
RE: DMSI-3.3.1D 5.5G Break Free - Williamx25 - 02-04-2019
Monday february 4th
11:00 AM
I listened on stereospeakers last night, but I was finishing a deadline so people called me all the time.
I forgot that I was listening to the sub, and there were gaps in my listening time because I was talking on the phone. If you get a phonecall, VLC mediaplayer stops and it continues after you end the phonecall....
And I went to the bathroom a few times, leaving my phone in my bedroom, so I wasn’t exposed to the sub again.
So really annoying, I went to sleep and I woke up really groggy, I didn’t sleep well, I was very tired but couldn’t sleep any longer. So now i’m like a zombie,
I don’t notice much from the sub working, I think I messed up here by not listening strictly back to back.
Tonight will be much better, I make sure I won’t be interrupted.
2th cycle
DMSI: day 3
Nofap: day 1