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RE: The New BASE Sub - Shannon - 10-04-2014
(10-04-2014, 07:18 AM)SexyKorths Wrote:(10-04-2014, 01:11 AM)AlphaMind Wrote: LOL!! BASE has finished+1
Now Shannon can create a FREE ASC 6G
And maybe sometime in the future an effective "rehab"-sub for addicts he mentioned in a post earlier, would be possible with this new tech.
Life-Tune-Up 4.0?
You like that FREE word, dontcha AlphaMind? :-)
Shannon can't create an ASC based in 6G until he knows how to create 6G. It's not clear yet how to do that. It may be that the dev script is so highly customized that I cannot create a skeleton script from it. There's a lot of work to be done before I'll really know how to proceed on this.
SexyKorths, that sub would come further down the line when I had a better understanding of how all this works and how to use it.
RE: The New BASE Sub - Nationwide - 10-04-2014
(10-04-2014, 11:52 AM)Shannon Wrote: But if you use another 6 stage set, such as BASE, you will need to run the refresher, or better yet the whole program, after you run BASE. At which time you're dragging your mind away from the goals of BASE, just like by running BASE you are going in a different direction than AM.
Based on this statement, it sounds as though trying to integrate BASE with AM6 would be counterproductive because you are attempting to follow two distinctly different paths. Essentially you can pursue either entrepreneurial success or alpha masculinity, but attempting to pursue both would dilute your focus, and thus decrease your chances of success in both areas. Am I understanding you correctly, Shannon?
This is interesting because I feel that I am better prepared for entrepreneurial success after my exposure to AM6 than I was prior to it.
Thanks.
Nationwide
RE: The New BASE Sub - shub - 10-04-2014
I think it could be because in alpha Male there are lots of components which are geared more towards the women side of life, and AM might make you wanna achieve those even if doing so might be at the expense of your entrepreneurial goals..
While in BASE it'll be the opposite, maybe on BASE you probably won't mind compromising on alpha behaviour in some situations if it's good for business
But also, there will be a lot of situations (and I still think that these situations would be more of a norm) where being an AM would be conducive to your success as an entrepreneur(am talking everything in AM which isn't exclusively women oriented), I think whether AM and BASE drive your energy in different directions and how much would be decided by how many of such kinds of situations does your chosen business field give you.
Even I was thinking that being alpha Male would always help in business that's why I thought there would be a major overlap in the programs, but I think BASE needs to be more versatile than AM6.0 coz AM is just about being AM but BASE has to be very contextual...
I think my point is best summarized with example of auras in each program: AM has fixed kinds of auras while BASE has polymorphic aura which I feel is more complex (and in my opinion more useful, albeit towards a different goal)
But obviously everything is just my speculation, so we all shall wait for Shannon's reply
Am really excited about BASE, so couldn't help posting
RE: The New BASE Sub - Nationwide - 10-04-2014
I understand what you're saying shub, and I too am excited about the release of this ground breaking sub. However, I have devoted many hours of listening time to AM6 and I am thrilled with the results so far, so I can't help but be somewhat wary. I do not intend to participate in anything that might jeopardize the outcome I am experiencing with AM6.
Now if it's a matter of my subconscious mind processing the instructions imbedded in multiple subs and working out a balanced path, that's fine. But if it's a matter of one 6 stage sub negating the programming of another...well that strikes me as a rabbit hole you could traverse for a long time with no desirable outcome. I'd want to avoid that.
In the long run, it seems these subs are tools for creating the life you want, but you need to have a vision of that life and wisely choose the subs that are appropriate.
That's how I'm understanding it at this time.
Nationwide
RE: The New BASE Sub - adam225 - 10-04-2014
I thought they'd both work well interchangeably. Looks like I won't be running BASE for a while now then. I want to extract everything I can out of AM6 before moving onto another 6 stage. I was hoping to just switch between them....
RE: The New BASE Sub - TheChosenOne - 10-04-2014
Shannon answered these questions/comments extensively on Page 10 of this thread....
EDIT:Making a short request for the answers to that page about 6 Stage Programs to be available in the FAQ/Q&A or a "6-Stage Pinned" thread since it is appears to be a recurring question throughout the forum (I probably should have put this in a seperate Titles & Suggestions thread, but it's a recurring theme in this one frequently)
RE: The New BASE Sub - swisston - 10-04-2014
BASE looks more like an extension of self improvement to me, having recently completed AM. Yes, it will shift my focus more on to business rather than just me as a man, but I now have a strong base of myself to work from.
If I tried to run BASE without AM first, I would expect to arrive in a different place at the end. Now, I expect my business to be built around me, rather than hiding in the shadows and expecting the product to speak for itself.
RE: The New BASE Sub - TheChosenOne - 10-05-2014
(10-04-2014, 11:43 PM)swisston Wrote: BASE looks more like an extension of self improvement to me, having recently completed AM. Yes, it will shift my focus more on to business rather than just me as a man, but I now have a strong base of myself to work from.
If I tried to run BASE without AM first, I would expect to arrive in a different place at the end. Now, I expect my business to be built around me, rather than hiding in the shadows and expecting the product to speak for itself.
I would agree with you..the way you're using AM6 is to become the "Best MAN" you can be through personal self-improvement and achievement. In other words, you've created a foundation that you can pick to go in any direction, and maintain that level of "inner strength" (the CORE of the program internalized). Also, you are completely dialed in and focused and have a clear vision for yourself and are using the subs to "gauge progress" (by reading your journal and bulletpoints).
In this case and as Nationwide has mentioned, AM6 and now BASE are "complimenting" your journey/vision for this time period in your life. You're in complete alignment and things are probably lining up (manifesting) themselves for you pretty easily.
But when a person chooses to run AM6 "because they have to" to get to WM/SM, and then decides that they want to add BASE (as it is just being released) to the mix, it creates a conflict, especially if there is a vast level of inexperience between the areas and/or they are not in-tune with how the subconscious mind works. Not that a person can't, it's just that it takes time to learn skills, manifest things, and reprogram the mind long-term.
RE: The New BASE Sub - Ricardo - 10-05-2014
I don't see why BASE should conflict with any other sub. If you achieve all you want through AM/SM/WM for example then surely that programming will stay with you anyway. The six stagers are designed to be permanent otherwise like Nationwide says you'll essentially be chasing your tail between the same subs all the time. Why should enjoying women and BASE conflict? You can have both! Successful business men are Alpha and have their pick of women.
RE: The New BASE Sub - JackOfHearts - 10-05-2014
You can't make love all night and work in the same time. So I guess while doing BASE you won't waste too much time partying all night in a social event. Which mean less choice with woman and less time.
It should be possible to do both (enjoy woman and work) but to a certain extent only.
RE: The New BASE Sub - TheChosenOne - 10-05-2014
(10-05-2014, 04:27 AM)Ricardo Wrote: I don't see why BASE should conflict with any other sub. If you achieve all you want through AM/SM/WM for example then surely that programming will stay with you anyway. The six stagers are designed to be permanent otherwise like Nationwide says you'll essentially be chasing your tail between the same subs all the time. Why should enjoying women and BASE conflict? You can have both! Successful business men are Alpha and have their pick of women.
The conflict is in the choices, not necessarily the sub itself. One of the main functions of the subconscious is that it operates on your MOST DOMINANT programming, until it replaced by another program...and then theres the "skill-level" aspect to that as well (Shannon explains it on pg 10 of this thread)
AM to WM/SM is a linear approach and everyone understood there was a prerequisite to those 2 programs or running AM by itself.
Now BASE is being released as a 6 stage program and someone who has/was running AM before BASE was initially announced has an important decision to make.
In other words, running BASE after AM would pretty much require AM to be run again, before running WM/SM. In this process, you're negating all programming from BASE and putting it back to AM, to get to SM, etc...(chasing your tail as you mentioned) We used to call it "sub fever" with the single stage
6 Stage Sets do not necessarily make it permanent/long-term as you've probably noticed by reading many journals throughout the forum. Money/Business, Women/Sex and Social Skills are some of the most challenging things to master because you're dealing with other people but also can be the most rewarding. There are men who have all 3, but it takes time, study, focus, work and patience.
I mentioned in another thread that 2 - 5 years is probably what it would take to get all these 6 Stages permanent long-term, a huge value since we've spent 18+ years being exposed to programming not in alignment with the sub. BAMM is a 12 stage & it takes up to 8 years depending on user variables.
RE: The New BASE Sub - Nationwide - 10-05-2014
(10-04-2014, 11:29 PM)TheChosenOne Wrote: Shannon answered these questions/comments extensively on Page 10.
Yes. Thanks for pointing this out TCO.
So it appears that the conflict occurs for multiple reasons, but a fundamental one is that the auras are in conflict.
I'm guessing that if you devote yourself to the AM6/SM path, that does not condemn you to a life of sexual fulfillment at the cost of financial ruin. It would probably mean that sexual conquest would be easier and more natural for you than building a successful business because of the program you are operating under and the aura it is generating. You could still be successful, but it would be a success that revolves around the AM/SM instructions.
Let's face it. If you're going to be successful in the AM/SM way, there has to be some financial success (maybe stability is a better word) somewhere. After all...it would be hard to be the consummate ladies man when you roll burritos at the Bell and live in your parents garage.
Though I do know a few guys...
Nationwide
EDIT: 10/5/14 After this posting I went back and read Ryan's postings concerning his AM/SM journey. His experiences seem to bear out what I posted above. In essence, you can achieve success if you follow the the AM/SM path. Just be sure that it is the type of success you want.
RE: The New BASE Sub - jonathan4all - 10-05-2014
Practice makes man perfect and so does subliminal. I think if someone runs Am6-Base-AM6-Base it will be quiet balanced in the end, may be one round more.Of course regarding the aura it still amplifies the current program he or she is going through.
Morever, AM/SM/BASE/WM all have few common issues which is core of self growth such as UM, US, Positive thinking and attitude, Self-validation, Self-esteem, Confidence, assertiveness, emotional healing etc. Those qualities are common in all the 6 stages sub specially first 3 stages ( last 3 stages lead to manifestation and specific sub based goal in generally what I see from users' journals). So if a person can amplify his basic no matter which sub he is listening still he is gaining. I think it is the manifestation that differs in the later stages.
Therefore when you have a solid basic listening few years your goal and manifestation will be much easier to achieve . This is my hypothesis.
RE: The New BASE Sub - Nationwide - 10-05-2014
(10-05-2014, 07:45 AM)jonathan4all Wrote: Therefore when you have a solid basic listening few years your goal and manifestation will be much easier to achieve . This is my hypothesis.
I'm inclined to agree with you J4A. It seems reasonable.
So is BASE next on your agenda?
Nationwide