(05-26-2016, 03:23 AM)Alpha360 Wrote: Maybe we should start a thread with a poll about this question once and for all:

In my opinion using statement in the script to repels dudes (unwanted attention) is not helping us, quiet the opposite. One of the main issue here I think come from that western society is fearful about homosexual, especially male homosexuality. This behavior is based on fear and ignorance. It's even destructive to the heterosexual man, it gives sexual power away. First there is a part of social proof that is removed. Then there is fear from men when intimacy is involved, some are fearful to express emotion or are shameful because people will see them as gay. There is also jealousy, if men were as open as women about homosexuality women would have less control on us because we would have more choice, women would be more jealous. Women are not afraid to go full homo/bisexual and that way they gain sexual power because we are the one losing a possibility for sexual freedom.

Shannon you said that in some case you don't listen to your customer because their view are wrong, I think it's a case where education is required, being fearful about homosexuality is not a normal behavior from an Alpha male. We should be able to deal with that with an open mind. We are losing power away. A lot of guys here complain that SM3 or WM2 or AM6 or AOS is not powerful enough, this is one way to make it more powerful, that is if we are able to handle a guy hitting on us, do we want to be an alpha male or not? is an alpha male afraid to be hit by gay dudes?

if we are not able to do that, well it's disappointing

(05-26-2016, 04:50 AM)Alpha360 Wrote: It's not what I mean here, I didn't say to enjoy it but to not be fearful about it. Or the see the attention from gay men as something positive because it means you are attractive, it doesn't mean that you are going to spend time with them. You just tell them you are not interested.
To me the main reason people are asking to remove unwanted attention from men do it because they are fearful or they don't have enough assertiveness to deal with those unwanted attention. There are guys here who are also complaining about unwanted attention from ugly women. Just be assertive enough and remove the fear.

Education is required because when fear is involved the person doesn't think objectively, he is irrational. To me there is no good reason to remove the attraction from gay dudes, there is more profit to let gay dudes hit on us. All the request comes from fear or lack of assertiveness (lazyness) or ignorance.

(05-26-2016, 04:54 AM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: Shannon won't be doing separate subs. He already stated it cause it takes time to record different versions.

With the gay men thing, trust me, I am very open-minded and support any kind of sexual orientation or gender identity. People can do whatever they like as long as all parties are consenting. However I've had instances when I was out, guys would make moves and it's really uncomfortable. I don't care if it's verbal flirting, but being really physical freaks me out. I am really assertive and tell them to stop, but I'm still creeped out. I guess a lot of it has come from bad experiences in school where there were gay kids who would make inappropriate moves and bully other guys including myself. So every time something happens, negative thoughts resurface.

I vote to repel the genders that we aren't sexually attracted to. I really don't think it would affect or lessen female attraction that much to be honest.

(05-26-2016, 04:54 AM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: Shannon won't be doing separate subs. He already stated it cause it takes time to record different versions.

With the gay men thing, trust me, I am very open-minded and support any kind of sexual orientation or gender identity. People can do whatever they like as long as all parties are consenting. However I've had instances when I was out, guys would make moves and it's really uncomfortable. I don't care if it's verbal flirting, but being really physical freaks me out. I am really assertive and tell them to stop, but I'm still creeped out. I guess a lot of it has come from bad experiences in school where there were gay kids who would make inappropriate moves and bully other guys including myself. So every time something happens, negative thoughts resurface.

I vote to repel the genders that we aren't sexually attracted to. I really don't think it would affect or lessen female attraction that much to be honest.

(05-26-2016, 05:15 AM)Alpha360 Wrote: "Freak out", "creeped out", it's based on fear as I just said.

(05-26-2016, 05:07 AM)terry44 Wrote:

(05-26-2016, 04:54 AM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: Shannon won't be doing separate subs. He already stated it cause it takes time to record different versions.

With the gay men thing, trust me, I am very open-minded and support any kind of sexual orientation or gender identity. People can do whatever they like as long as all parties are consenting. However I've had instances when I was out, guys would make moves and it's really uncomfortable. I don't care if it's verbal flirting, but being really physical freaks me out. I am really assertive and tell them to stop, but I'm still creeped out. I guess a lot of it has come from bad experiences in school where there were gay kids who would make inappropriate moves and bully other guys including myself. So every time something happens, negative thoughts resurface.

I vote to repel the genders that we aren't sexually attracted to. I really don't think it would affect or lessen female attraction that much to be honest.

When he did OF and OGSF he said it was a minor change to the script, which didn't take long. Surely this change would also be fairly minor.

I agree about discouraging interest from men when you aren't interested in them though. It has nothing to do with fear at all: It's just unpleasant and a waste of everyone's time. And if some women are less attracted to me because I'm not embracing my gay side, or getting enough social proof from adoring gay men, I couldn't give a damn personally. I'm better off without women like that.

(05-26-2016, 04:59 AM)SouthPaw Wrote: Shannon also has to think about his future customers and the ones that don't write much or at all in the forum. Sooo, if let's say 11 out of 9 say they like being checked out and fantasized by men, that really doesn't say much.

And I would like to add that making women extremely wet and this stuff is just perverted and no healthy man would want that. We still want to live our normal lifes and have normal interactions. Not everyone is desperate.

I find how Shannon described it is how it should be "become as sexy and attractive as you can be". Of course without things going out if control which will just backfire.

Unconditional love, gratitude, deservedness and any other positive and healthy additions are always good.

(05-26-2016, 05:23 AM)Multiworld Wrote: I agree about discouraging interest from men,because it is a waste
of time when you have women on your mind,I think thats the ticket,focus on attracting women would be good but you know however Shannon makes it,we'll buy it!