(08-31-2025, 05:47 AM)Bignoise Wrote: I don’t understand the point of your post 4kingdoms. I have read that post before, i know what I have works.
But if I paid $650 for a sub, and a week later a better version is published, even if that improvement it’s just saving some time, then I think my request is fair.
But I’m understanding it’s not just the time, but a better management of the resources between FRM and DRS too and DRS working better because the new scripting. So, i think my request is fair enough.

(08-04-2025, 07:55 PM)Shannon Wrote: I will build a separate version (v5.1) which integrates the DRS.

But that will be free to nobody under any circumstances if I do.  This seems like a reasonable solution for everybody.

(08-31-2025, 07:51 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote:

(08-31-2025, 05:47 AM)Bignoise Wrote: I don’t understand the point of your post 4kingdoms. I have read that post before, i know what I have works.
But if I paid $650 for a sub, and a week later a better version is published, even if that improvement it’s just saving some time, then I think my request is fair.
But I’m understanding it’s not just the time, but a better management of the resources between FRM and DRS too and DRS working better because the new scripting. So, i think my request is fair enough.

With great respect towards you, you voted No in this poll. (Click on "Show Results")

On Post #1, I quoted @Shannon, hence the reason for creating the poll.

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https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shannon-s-Journal-Discussion-Thread-Vol-8?pid=269076#pid269076

(08-04-2025, 07:55 PM)Shannon Wrote: I will build a separate version (v5.1) which integrates the DRS.

But that will be free to nobody under any circumstances if I do.  This seems like a reasonable solution for everybody.

(08-31-2025, 09:45 AM)London1 Wrote: @Shannon



Serious question, how long should it take a hard case user to achieve the program goals of DMSI 5.x? Or at least start getting strong and clear reactions? 

Quote:Also is it the same for both 5.0 and 5.1 in terms of time? If not whats the difference? Which takes longer etc?

(08-31-2025, 10:14 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(08-31-2025, 09:45 AM)London1 Wrote: @Shannon



Serious question, how long should it take a hard case user to achieve the program goals of DMSI 5.x? Or at least start getting strong and clear reactions? 

That's going to depend on a LOT of variables.  Are you using it according to the instructions?  What is your conscious and subconscious personality?  What experiences have you had in your life?  How did you react to them, and what conclusions did you come to in response to them?  How old are you?  What is your balance of emotion vs logic?  What is your belief system?  What is your social life like?  What circumstances do you live in?  What is your culture like?  What level of looks and fitness are you starting out with?  How do you respond to opportunities?  What are your beliefs regarding women and sex?  Do you hate women, resent them, fear them? And on and on and on.  There are too many variables for me to be able to answer that.  It is so variable that even trying to estimate a range would be useless.

Quote:Also is it the same for both 5.0 and 5.1 in terms of time? If not whats the difference? Which takes longer etc?

Theoretically, 5.1 should be faster because it is filtering out the negativity and such.  But then, 5.0 + DRS should produce the same time frame.

(08-30-2025, 10:58 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(08-30-2025, 10:04 PM)Catman Wrote: Congrats on V5.1, @Shannon.



After downloading and testing the files briefly afterwards, I learned of a potential issue.



The 20 min and 35 min ultrasonic audio appears to be about 15-20 decibels lower than V5.0's equivalent file.



The others appear to be more or less the same volume, from V5.0 to V5.1.



Given how the volume requirements seem to be louder for both use cases, and presumably for mine as well compared to V5.0's, and how ultrasonic is supposed to be the standard format used to start, I felt it worth reporting this in case of an issue.



Thanks so much for building this sub.

I appreciate it, but I am fully aware of that.  Everything is okay.  You are welcome.

(08-31-2025, 04:11 PM)Catman Wrote:

(08-30-2025, 10:58 PM)Shannon Wrote: I appreciate it, but I am fully aware of that.  Everything is okay.  You are welcome.

Oh wow, so even though you want the ultrasonic sub listened to louder, the ultrasonic sub volume is extremely low by comparison to the other V5.1's tracks, and even V5.0's tracks. That was surprising if so. Wouldn't it end up much quieter? That's what I was worried about and wanted to mention just in case is all.

Just a follow up on the listening regimen for me too, do we have a handle on that yet? Maybe do hybrid? I did briefly experiment with that before I think we talked about it and saw results (relevant dreams and heat sensations, appetite increases etc.), during X4A-1600, so for me at least, it didn't seem like overkill at all. May have actually helped break through that awful death march we both went through, I bet, who knows. That was horrific. 

Hope you are doing well and relaxing a bit after the recent release. Intrigued to see what's next, I think it was OPH? That should be a great one.

(08-31-2025, 04:29 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(08-31-2025, 04:11 PM)Catman Wrote: Oh wow, so even though you want the ultrasonic sub listened to louder, the ultrasonic sub volume is extremely low by comparison to the other V5.1's tracks, and even V5.0's tracks. That was surprising if so. Wouldn't it end up much quieter? That's what I was worried about and wanted to mention just in case is all.



Just a follow up on the listening regimen for me too, do we have a handle on that yet? Maybe do hybrid? I did briefly experiment with that before I think we talked about it and saw results (relevant dreams and heat sensations, appetite increases etc.), during X4A-1600, so for me at least, it didn't seem like overkill at all. May have actually helped break through that awful death march we both went through, I bet, who knows. That was horrific. 



Hope you are doing well and relaxing a bit after the recent release. Intrigued to see what's next, I think it was OPH? That should be a great one.

The volume is different because the build method is different.  



The instructions for you are in the works.  I'll have that soon.  Just had to take today to rest. I am too exhausted to work right now, and under those conditions, the models do not return useful results.



After I calculate your usage patterns, I will be building OPH 6G.

(09-01-2025, 07:38 AM)Ampersnd Wrote: I had a quick question about the DRS included to DMSI.

Is the attached DRS essentially the same as using DRS on its own? Meaning - putting to the side the DMSI-specific optimizations - can I assume that DRS is running more or less the same?



If I were a public figure, or experiencing a ton of work-related energy attacks, but I'm also running DMSI+DRS, am I protected in a similar way to someone who simply runs DRS?

(08-31-2025, 05:23 PM)Catman Wrote:

(08-31-2025, 04:29 PM)Shannon Wrote: The volume is different because the build method is different.  



The instructions for you are in the works.  I'll have that soon.  Just had to take today to rest. I am too exhausted to work right now, and under those conditions, the models do not return useful results.



After I calculate your usage patterns, I will be building OPH 6G.

Oh cool, so the build is different for just the ultrasonics compared to the other formats, interesting.

I appreciate that, no worries, I know Sunday is usually your rest day! 

I just wanted to reach out briefly, and yeah, hybrids in the past have been okay, so they can be on the table, so to speak.

I'm sure OPH will be very interesting, I know you in particular are looking forward to it. Hopefully it can help the lungs.