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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - SargeMaximus - 07-11-2018 Well have to agree to disagree. I do think that DMSI helped, but I still say my pua skills did the heavy lifting. It’s been that way since the beginning. If I was getting 10’s in spite of everything (mess ups, pua tactics, if nothing mattered and I still got the girls I wanted) then I’d conclude it must be the DMSI aura. But so far, whenever taking conscious control and employing pua, I get better and more consistent results. I do think DMSI helps make the pua more effective, but at this point, pua is the driver, DMSI is the fuel. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - dissonance - 07-11-2018 To me, you are the driver, DMSI is the fuel (or jetpack boosts lol), and PUA methods/teachings persona/vibe is the type of paint jobs/rims/car seat your car has. PUA works on certain girls, but other girls like a different color paint/rims/carseats. To me, it seems like the higher quality women are becoming pretty fucking attuned to PUA "tactics" and much prefer a non-gamey and more genuine approach. An approach that's not about "gaming" her into compliance to sleep with you, but more about sub-communicating the fact that you are being your fully genuine purpose-focused self that would be happy for her to share time with you in your world, whether you want her to be a casual friend with benefits in that world, or a serious relationship, but also just as happy if she disappeared and never came back. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - SargeMaximus - 07-11-2018 (07-11-2018, 10:50 AM)dissonance Wrote: To me, you are the driver, DMSI is the fuel (or jetpack boosts lol), and PUA methods/teachings persona/vibe is the type of paint jobs/rims/car seat your car has. PUA works on certain girls, but other girls like a different color paint/rims/carseats. To me, it seems like the higher quality women are becoming pretty ***** attuned to PUA "tactics" and much prefer a non-gamey and more genuine approach. An approach that's not about "gaming" her into compliance to sleep with you, but more about sub-communicating the fact that you are being your fully genuine purpose-focused self that would be happy for her to share time with you in your world, whether you want her to be a casual friend with benefits in that world, or a serious relationship, but also just as happy if she disappeared and never came back. That sounds good and everything but my experience shows that unless you can communicate all that, you won’t be successful. I’ve been in my personal mission for several years now, and if that was the “it” factor, women should have been much more easy. Again, only by applying pua tactics did I see any results whatsoever. Nothing else in my life has changed but the tactics I used. The tactics allow you to communicate that which you describe. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Oversoul - 07-11-2018 (07-11-2018, 09:38 AM)Kol Wrote:(07-11-2018, 07:41 AM)kingpill Wrote: Walked past a two girls a couple of days ago, and one suddenly starts talking loudly about condoms. Yeah that 'thing' thing was fucked up. I liked it but I didnt. lol. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Oversoul - 07-11-2018 Going to the shop, I just noticed something. A lot of my inner talk and dialogues have been replaced by animal sounds. Instead of telling myself to 'straighten your back' its been replaced by a lion roar. Or a serpent hiss. Seems to automatically give me the effect I was intending, but better. Feel more animalistic, natural and raw, and with less metal clutter, the world just seems more alive. Also, an unknown cat randomly came and stroked itself against me. lol This never happens, most the time they either ignore me, run or just stare. EDIT: Just read somewhere that cats are really sensitive to peoples' energies etc. Hmm RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Williamx25 - 07-11-2018 I just screwed up my ASRB-Break on 5.5G DMSI 3.2A.... I listened for eight days straight this week instead of seven days... Should I just take tomorrow one day off and continue as normal??? How much will this mistake influence me?? RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Williamx25 - 07-11-2018 (07-09-2018, 12:03 PM)Shannon Wrote:(07-09-2018, 07:20 AM)Lowe Wrote: Hi Shannon, How do I consciously know what the instructions are? Or is it something that I will execute subconsciously? What do you exactly mean with those instructions? Adjusting body language/ voice tone / eye contact ? Becoming a more attractive man through body language? Or is it the programming that goes right into my subconscious mind? If approaching girls isn’t executing the instructions, or talking to them, what is it then? Just curious RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - dissonance - 07-11-2018 Hey Shannon, what do the sexual performance modules in 3.2 do exactly? What aspects do they touch upon/work on? RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - thor2014 - 07-11-2018 (07-11-2018, 02:06 PM)Williamx25 Wrote: I just screwed up my ASRB-Break on 5.5G DMSI 3.2A.... Personally I forgot to take a break for nearly 4 weeks . I do not think it will have a negative influence. Having said that will see what Ben or Shannon has to say. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - thor2014 - 07-12-2018 (07-11-2018, 04:01 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(07-11-2018, 03:47 AM)thor2014 Wrote:(07-11-2018, 03:33 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:Sarge as i have said previously your good looking. Its not hard for guy who is an 8 to get laid with a girl who is a 5, 6 7 or 8.(07-11-2018, 02:54 AM)NoLimit Wrote:(07-09-2018, 08:59 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Thor I’m curious and would love your opinion on why I have only gotten laid by using pua... Sarge i disagree strongly, PUA is like giving someone crutches to help them walk. Its toxic especially for those with self esteem, asp or other related mental disorders. PUA never existed 20 years ago and guys were still getting laid. No amount of PUA will help an unattractive guy get laid. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - kornjacinvrac - 07-12-2018 Rellying on "tactics" and "gimmicks" for attracting a girl is a stupid way to go. Yes they can spark attraction, yes they can get you 30 minutes into "something" that might happen, yes they are amusing and when girls laugh it feels so good - but in reallity it's not important. Even if you get that girl, what's the point? You will believe it was the "tactic" and not "you". You either study more tactics or you quit this whole nonsense. One can always be short on tactics, neither when one is in a healthy relashionship does he think "omg i need to do one tactic or my girl will leave me" after one year of being togeather. That would be insane. But this is what i see people do. They are always thinking that what they said or what they did attracted the girl, but it was something entirely different. In pua, not to mention "state crashes" when you analyze being "in state" or "out of state" and contraversly never being in "state", because you are always micromanaging it, and its a mental desease. Im not saying PUA is 100% bad, it has it flaws, but there are many many things in it that are destructive and there is a better way of doing things. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - SargeMaximus - 07-12-2018 We’ll agree to disagree guys. I don’t see anything constructive coming out of this discussion. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Zane - 07-12-2018 Seriously,Tbh I find Sarge kinda interesting dude... Cause he has different set of beliefs than many of us here and we think that those beliefs are toxic for him to get laid or in his career yet he is getting laid and making good sales/money from time to time.... I always counted him as an exception...If Sarge thinks that PUA works for him then it works for him..He believes in it.. Main thing is that he is getting laid and u guys should be happy..After all thats what we all want for Sarge.. All kinds of Possibilities exist in this Universe ..Sarge is One of them..lol..I am serious Btw xD RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - lano1106 - 07-12-2018 (07-12-2018, 01:46 AM)thor2014 Wrote: Sarge i disagree strongly, PUA is like giving someone crutches to help them walk. Its toxic especially for those with self esteem, asp or other related mental disorders. A lot of things didn't existed 20 years ago. As far as society exist, there has been some activities that humans have done for centuries with moderate success. Such activities include selling, public speaking, politics, courtship. Then something called science came. It is the process to analyze, make experiments, conceptualize ideas to better understand in order to create knowledge allowing people to learn skills and get predictable and repeatable results. Using science on those millenial activities made optimization possible and made results measurably much better. Many successful people do use social and psychological sciences in their interactions with others and get great results. I guess that it comes down whether or not you believe in science. One possible objection against using science in courtship could be that you could objectify women that you interact with and/or you become a social robot. To that I would answer that it is a question of balance. Don't overly rely on science but don't ignore that it exist neither. My best influence bible is the Principles of Influence from Robert Cialdini. The guy is a psychology researcher and everything he writes is backed by scientific social experiments. So the thing is serious and isn't BS. Ignoring that those things exist and are real and can be used by you to get what you want is silly, imho... and most PUA stuff out there is basically applying Cialdini influence principles for flirting... Beside, nothing is unidimensional in life. I don't even understand why some people argue that there is only 1 thing that is good to get success with women. Being irresistible sexually is a quality. PUA/flirting is a skill. Can you get result with only one of those things? Yes. I believe that you can get even better result if you possess both. Someone earlier in the thread did use a car driving analogy saying the using DMSI was like stop applying the handbreak while driving. So lets use another car driving analogy. If you give the best car to a pilot, is he going to win the race? You gave him a strong advantage over the competition but unless he knows how to drive, winning isn't guaranteed... Finally, there is good PUA material and BAD PUA material. Don't ditch the whole thing because you had only experienced bad material... |