(07-10-2018, 04:00 PM)kalmah0804 Wrote: Hey Shannon--I've been taking a bit of a break from the forums, so I apologize if this question has already been answered, but I figured it's worth a shot asking, because I think at least someone needs to report this type of stuff:

I'm wondering if it's possible to resist or self-sabotage a script so much that you in fact execute and manifest the polar opposite of what you're trying to attract. When I was on DMSI3.01A, I noticed, albeit slowly, beautiful women manifesting themselves for me, and grew to a place of extreme happiness. Friends and coworkers were all treating me a lot more nicely, and also with a lot more respect. When I began DMSI 3.1A, I quickly experienced high-threat regular (generally daily) anxiety and panic attacks... the dream job and opportunity I had manifested as part of my growth on DMSI 3.01A turned into an absolute nightmare--a quintissential hollywood horror story--my best friend, and the only person I've felt really close with since my Dad died, had to move out of the city I was living in because he suffered his own personal tragedy (which I admittedly don't think had anything to do with DMSI), and I eventually suffered a series of mental breakdowns and anxiety attacks which led me to impulsively quit my job and move across the country back home on a total whim, since which I have never fully recovered.

I recently moved back to Southern California to pursue my dreams when DMSI 3.2 was released. I started with the B side and immediately noticed all of my old anxieties, insecurities, fears and paranoid emotions all returning at once. Since running DMSI 3.2 A on and off now for the past several months, I have been sexually assaulted by an old, disgusting gay man, sexually violated/harrassed by a disgusting elderly african american woman who was disorderly and drunk, and I have been physically attacked by an enraged taxi driver who grew upset with my friend/co-rider and eventually turned all of his physical aggression on me (For no apparent reason at all), got out of his cab, chased me onto my property and began to push me down and punch me before I was dragged away and into my home by my friends. I have seen about 3 sure-thing guaranteed job offers for me come onto the table, only to somehow get pulled away from me for no clear-cut reason ever identified. The only commonality in all of these instances is that I had been actively listening to DMSI 3.2, either A side or B side, the current day or the evening/day beforehand.

Just yesterday, after re-starting DMSI 3.2-A for about 4 days, our neighbor's schizophrenic bipolar son apparently returned into their custody. He's 450lbs, completely delusional and insane, and is obsessed with coming to our house and asking if I'm around. He's tried to gain entry into our house several times, and the family is not taking any responsibiltiy for his behavior. He's threatened my roommate because he thought he was smiling (my roommates and I are all very scared of this person and were not smiling). I legitimately fear for my safety, and the only logical connection I can make between all of the terrifying events I have lived through in the past 6 months is that I have always been running DMSI during these times.

I understand that this is a seriously loaded question, but I want to make clear that I realize that I'm trying this sub at my own risk, and that if my subconscious is indeed self-sabotaging or resisting by manifesting only insanity, danger, and violence into my life when all I want more than anything right now is financial, professional, mental and emotional security, I can stop the sub at any time and have always noticed these manifestations resolve themselves/go away after a day or two.

I don't know if what I'm suggesting is even possible--but since you've been getting (mostly) positive feedback, or at least strong growth and results, from almost everyone on this forum, I wanted to see if anyone else had experienced strong symptoms of manifesting things/people you are subconsciously/consciously afraid of in the early stages of running DMSI3.2, or if such a thing (the counter-manifestations of the script) is even theoretically possible.

(07-09-2018, 08:59 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(07-09-2018, 08:46 AM)thor2014 Wrote: I suspect that there is an obsession with PUA and game which might hinder the execution of DMSI for some people. The reason I believe this is the case is that I hear alot of people say that they did not have tight game that is why they never got laid with the girl. That tells me they have already placed the girl on a pedestial. That is I need game before I can get laid whereas DMSI execution does not require you to know PUA or have game.

Thor I’m curious and would love your opinion on why I have only gotten laid by using pua...

(07-11-2018, 02:54 AM)NoLimit Wrote:

(07-09-2018, 08:59 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(07-09-2018, 08:46 AM)thor2014 Wrote: I suspect that there is an obsession with PUA and game which might hinder the execution of DMSI for some people. The reason I believe this is the case is that I hear alot of people say that they did not have tight game that is why they never got laid with the girl. That tells me they have already placed the girl on a pedestial. That is I need game before I can get laid whereas DMSI execution does not require you to know PUA or have game.

Thor I’m curious and would love your opinion on why I have only gotten laid by using pua...

Cuz you are good looking ?

Aside some basic principles, PUA is so useless.

(07-11-2018, 03:33 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(07-11-2018, 02:54 AM)NoLimit Wrote:

(07-09-2018, 08:59 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(07-09-2018, 08:46 AM)thor2014 Wrote: I suspect that there is an obsession with PUA and game which might hinder the execution of DMSI for some people. The reason I believe this is the case is that I hear alot of people say that they did not have tight game that is why they never got laid with the girl. That tells me they have already placed the girl on a pedestial. That is I need game before I can get laid whereas DMSI execution does not require you to know PUA or have game.

Thor I’m curious and would love your opinion on why I have only gotten laid by using pua...

Cuz you are good looking ?

Aside some basic principles, PUA is so useless.

How come I never got laid before learning PUA then?

(07-11-2018, 03:47 AM)thor2014 Wrote:

(07-11-2018, 03:33 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(07-11-2018, 02:54 AM)NoLimit Wrote:

(07-09-2018, 08:59 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(07-09-2018, 08:46 AM)thor2014 Wrote: I suspect that there is an obsession with PUA and game which might hinder the execution of DMSI for some people. The reason I believe this is the case is that I hear alot of people say that they did not have tight game that is why they never got laid with the girl. That tells me they have already placed the girl on a pedestial. That is I need game before I can get laid whereas DMSI execution does not require you to know PUA or have game.

Thor I’m curious and would love your opinion on why I have only gotten laid by using pua...

Cuz you are good looking ?

Aside some basic principles, PUA is so useless.

How come I never got laid before learning PUA then?

Sarge as i have said previously your good looking. Its not hard for guy who is an 8 to get laid with a girl who is a 5, 6 7 or 8.

How long have you been studying pua ? 3 to 4 years ? How come you were not getting laid then ?. Then DMSI 3.2 comes along then your getting laid.

DMSi i believe has cleared some crap out out of your head which was stopping you from taking strategic action to get laid. PUA is a gimmick. Do you think a fat balding guy in his 50s who has never groomed able to get laid with a girl half his age. Answer no because the moment that girl layes eyes on him she has already decided in her mind that i dont want to give him the time of day. So he will get blown out.

So no pua material in the world will help him. Unless he is celebrity.

(07-11-2018, 04:01 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(07-11-2018, 03:47 AM)thor2014 Wrote:

(07-11-2018, 03:33 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(07-11-2018, 02:54 AM)NoLimit Wrote:

(07-09-2018, 08:59 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Thor I’m curious and would love your opinion on why I have only gotten laid by using pua...

Cuz you are good looking ?

Aside some basic principles, PUA is so useless.

How come I never got laid before learning PUA then?

Sarge as i have said previously your good looking. Its not hard for guy who is an 8 to get laid with a girl who is a 5, 6 7 or 8.

How long have you been studying pua ? 3 to 4 years ? How come you were not getting laid then ?. Then DMSI 3.2 comes along then your getting laid.

DMSi i believe has cleared some crap out out of your head which was stopping you from taking strategic action to get laid. PUA is a gimmick. Do you think a fat balding guy in his 50s who has never groomed able to get laid with a girl half his age. Answer no because the moment that girl layes eyes on him she has already decided in her mind that i dont want to give him the time of day. So he will get blown out.

So no pua material in the world will help him. Unless he is celebrity.

The big breakthrough came when I learned the "push/pull" tactic. I use it on every date and it works to get makeouts and such.

It's a spectrum. The more tactics you use successfully, the more successful you will be with the girl. I know this for a fact. That fat balding guy in his 50's is, I believe, Johnny Soporno who dates pornstars so yes, it can and does work.


In sales it is the same, if you don't use the tactics right, you won't be successful on the same street where someone else who is using the tactics right will clean up. I know this because I've been that guy.


Having said that, there will always be girls/customers who will not buy no matter what, but it's not as simple as "you're good looking". I look better than my brother, for example, and yet he has a steady stream of women. So I don't buy that for a second.

(07-11-2018, 04:11 AM)Rocket13 Wrote: LM 6G for gamblers!!!! Yes please Shannon. Right in time for football season!

(07-11-2018, 04:01 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(07-11-2018, 03:47 AM)thor2014 Wrote:

(07-11-2018, 03:33 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(07-11-2018, 02:54 AM)NoLimit Wrote:

(07-09-2018, 08:59 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Thor I’m curious and would love your opinion on why I have only gotten laid by using pua...

Cuz you are good looking ?

Aside some basic principles, PUA is so useless.

How come I never got laid before learning PUA then?

Sarge as i have said previously your good looking. Its not hard for guy who is an 8 to get laid with a girl who is a 5, 6 7 or 8.

How long have you been studying pua ? 3 to 4 years ? How come you were not getting laid then ?. Then DMSI 3.2 comes along then your getting laid.

DMSi i believe has cleared some crap out out of your head which was stopping you from taking strategic action to get laid. PUA is a gimmick. Do you think a fat balding guy in his 50s who has never groomed able to get laid with a girl half his age. Answer no because the moment that girl layes eyes on him she has already decided in her mind that i dont want to give him the time of day. So he will get blown out.

So no pua material in the world will help him. Unless he is celebrity.

The big breakthrough came when I learned the "push/pull" tactic. I use it on every date and it works to get makeouts and such.

It's a spectrum. The more tactics you use successfully, the more successful you will be with the girl. I know this for a fact. That fat balding guy in his 50's is, I believe, Johnny Soporno who dates pornstars so yes, it can and does work.


In sales it is the same, if you don't use the tactics right, you won't be successful on the same street where someone else who is using the tactics right will clean up. I know this because I've been that guy.


Having said that, there will always be girls/customers who will not buy no matter what, but it's not as simple as "you're good looking". I look better than my brother, for example, and yet he has a steady stream of women. So I don't buy that for a second.