(07-20-2017, 09:14 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(07-20-2017, 09:08 PM)Rayhon Wrote: For the record I feel like in my dreams i've been resolving allot of issues and LEARNING information.

someone in my dream told me to stop talking so much and start listening more. It felt supernatural, i'l just leave it at that I won't get spiritual here. (rules)

But anyways, it gave me a clear message that I talk to much and just need to relax and listen more, in conversations with people. It made sense to me.

Listening is the most powerful "technique" I've come across so far. First read about it in "How to Win Friends and Influence People" and since then, I've always tried to listen. It's powerful. Everyone wants to be listened to. If you become the guy that listens, people love you.

Wish I was able to learn from my dreams like you tho. If I remember trhem, I usually just go "huh, that was interesting" then forget. lol.

(07-20-2017, 09:20 PM)Rayhon Wrote:

(07-20-2017, 09:14 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(07-20-2017, 09:08 PM)Rayhon Wrote: For the record I feel like in my dreams i've been resolving allot of issues and LEARNING information.

someone in my dream told me to stop talking so much and start listening more. It felt supernatural, i'l just leave it at that I won't get spiritual here. (rules)

But anyways, it gave me a clear message that I talk to much and just need to relax and listen more, in conversations with people. It made sense to me.

Listening is the most powerful "technique" I've come across so far. First read about it in "How to Win Friends and Influence People" and since then, I've always tried to listen. It's powerful. Everyone wants to be listened to. If you become the guy that listens, people love you.

Wish I was able to learn from my dreams like you tho. If I remember trhem, I usually just go "huh, that was interesting" then forget. lol.

Nice! I read that book 3 years ago too I'd highly recommend it also to anyone.

Perhaps you might be still able to learn from your dreams subconsiously without consciously remembering. Not sure but possibly. It's pretty cool though consiously remembering dreams and having gained insights from it.

(07-20-2017, 09:20 PM)Rayhon Wrote: The pain and crying I felt also last night was prob stronger I've ever felt in my life. I was crying my heart out. I felt like all the hate and anger and sadness in my heart was pouring out into a depressingly therapeutic melancholy.

(07-20-2017, 09:27 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(07-20-2017, 09:20 PM)Rayhon Wrote:

(07-20-2017, 09:14 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(07-20-2017, 09:08 PM)Rayhon Wrote: For the record I feel like in my dreams i've been resolving allot of issues and LEARNING information.

someone in my dream told me to stop talking so much and start listening more. It felt supernatural, i'l just leave it at that I won't get spiritual here. (rules)

But anyways, it gave me a clear message that I talk to much and just need to relax and listen more, in conversations with people. It made sense to me.

Listening is the most powerful "technique" I've come across so far. First read about it in "How to Win Friends and Influence People" and since then, I've always tried to listen. It's powerful. Everyone wants to be listened to. If you become the guy that listens, people love you.

Wish I was able to learn from my dreams like you tho. If I remember trhem, I usually just go "huh, that was interesting" then forget. lol.

Nice! I read that book 3 years ago too I'd highly recommend it also to anyone.

Perhaps you might be still able to learn from your dreams subconsiously without consciously remembering. Not sure but possibly. It's pretty cool though consiously remembering dreams and having gained insights from it.

I'll bet it is.

And yeah, I'm hoping my subcom knows what it all means and will just do it's thingf without me consciously having to know what's up lol. I'm lazy that way.

(07-20-2017, 09:20 PM)Rayhon Wrote: The pain and crying I felt also last night was prob stronger I've ever felt in my life. I was crying my heart out. I felt like all the hate and anger and sadness in my heart was pouring out into a depressingly therapeutic melancholy.

That's crazy man. In a way, it sounds like a larger version of something I've noticed while on DMSI. Periodically (seemingly randomly) I'll get this feeling in my chest as if my heart or ethereal body/life force/ghost/whatever is leaving my physical body for a moment. It happens in varying degrees of intensity and speed. Sometimes flickering like a light switch being switched on and off rapidly, other times like a piece of gum being slowly pulled apart, and everything in between.

Perhaps your dream was just a larger version of whatever that is.

(07-20-2017, 09:34 PM)Rayhon Wrote:

(07-20-2017, 09:27 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(07-20-2017, 09:20 PM)Rayhon Wrote:

(07-20-2017, 09:14 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(07-20-2017, 09:08 PM)Rayhon Wrote: For the record I feel like in my dreams i've been resolving allot of issues and LEARNING information.

someone in my dream told me to stop talking so much and start listening more. It felt supernatural, i'l just leave it at that I won't get spiritual here. (rules)

But anyways, it gave me a clear message that I talk to much and just need to relax and listen more, in conversations with people. It made sense to me.

Listening is the most powerful "technique" I've come across so far. First read about it in "How to Win Friends and Influence People" and since then, I've always tried to listen. It's powerful. Everyone wants to be listened to. If you become the guy that listens, people love you.

Wish I was able to learn from my dreams like you tho. If I remember trhem, I usually just go "huh, that was interesting" then forget. lol.

Nice! I read that book 3 years ago too I'd highly recommend it also to anyone.

Perhaps you might be still able to learn from your dreams subconsiously without consciously remembering. Not sure but possibly. It's pretty cool though consiously remembering dreams and having gained insights from it.

I'll bet it is.

And yeah, I'm hoping my subcom knows what it all means and will just do it's thingf without me consciously having to know what's up lol. I'm lazy that way.

(07-20-2017, 09:20 PM)Rayhon Wrote: The pain and crying I felt also last night was prob stronger I've ever felt in my life. I was crying my heart out. I felt like all the hate and anger and sadness in my heart was pouring out into a depressingly therapeutic melancholy.

That's crazy man. In a way, it sounds like a larger version of something I've noticed while on DMSI. Periodically (seemingly randomly) I'll get this feeling in my chest as if my heart or ethereal body/life force/ghost/whatever is leaving my physical body for a moment. It happens in varying degrees of intensity and speed. Sometimes flickering like a light switch being switched on and off rapidly, other times like a piece of gum being slowly pulled apart, and everything in between.

Perhaps your dream was just a larger version of whatever that is.

What I felt was one of the strongest emotions i've ever felt and also in my dream I was only crying that intense at certain epiphanies that came in my dream about my relationship with parents and how ego, anger, past, and emotional damage (on both sides but mostly moms) is causing severe strain in the relationship and one day when they die it's impossible to recover the relationship completely. so the only hope is now but its almost impossible to heal the relationship until my mom is healed too and comes to same realization.. This was the underlying theme I felt although none of this was actually verbalized. I was speaking telepathically with someone.

(07-20-2017, 09:20 PM)Rayhon Wrote: I also noticed in my waking life my eye twitches sometimes and I never used to get it before DMSI. it happens in social situations. Right before I have to enter a room with allot of women for example. (today) it twitches allot and its so bizarre.

(07-20-2017, 09:46 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(07-20-2017, 09:34 PM)Rayhon Wrote:

(07-20-2017, 09:27 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(07-20-2017, 09:20 PM)Rayhon Wrote:

(07-20-2017, 09:14 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Listening is the most powerful "technique" I've come across so far. First read about it in "How to Win Friends and Influence People" and since then, I've always tried to listen. It's powerful. Everyone wants to be listened to. If you become the guy that listens, people love you.

Wish I was able to learn from my dreams like you tho. If I remember trhem, I usually just go "huh, that was interesting" then forget. lol.

Nice! I read that book 3 years ago too I'd highly recommend it also to anyone.

Perhaps you might be still able to learn from your dreams subconsiously without consciously remembering. Not sure but possibly. It's pretty cool though consiously remembering dreams and having gained insights from it.

I'll bet it is.

And yeah, I'm hoping my subcom knows what it all means and will just do it's thingf without me consciously having to know what's up lol. I'm lazy that way.

(07-20-2017, 09:20 PM)Rayhon Wrote: The pain and crying I felt also last night was prob stronger I've ever felt in my life. I was crying my heart out. I felt like all the hate and anger and sadness in my heart was pouring out into a depressingly therapeutic melancholy.

That's crazy man. In a way, it sounds like a larger version of something I've noticed while on DMSI. Periodically (seemingly randomly) I'll get this feeling in my chest as if my heart or ethereal body/life force/ghost/whatever is leaving my physical body for a moment. It happens in varying degrees of intensity and speed. Sometimes flickering like a light switch being switched on and off rapidly, other times like a piece of gum being slowly pulled apart, and everything in between.

Perhaps your dream was just a larger version of whatever that is.

What I felt was one of the strongest emotions i've ever felt and also in my dream I was only crying that intense at certain epiphanies that came in my dream about my relationship with parents and how ego, anger, past, and emotional damage (on both sides but mostly moms) is causing severe strain in the relationship and one day when they die it's impossible to recover the relationship completely. so the only hope is now but its almost impossible to heal the relationship until my mom is healed too and comes to same realization.. This was the underlying theme I felt although none of this was actually verbalized. I was speaking telepathically with someone.

Intense.

My mom is narcissistic and a solid 6/10 who thinks she's a 10/10. She's gone her whole life playing the victim and simultaneously being oblivious to the needs of others (like me).

Took me a long time to come to accept her for who she is and realize it's not up to me to heal her. She has to do that herself. All I can do is act the right way from now on, and sometimes that includes not talking to her anymore. Or in small doses. :/

(07-20-2017, 09:20 PM)Rayhon Wrote: I also noticed in my waking life my eye twitches sometimes and I never used to get it before DMSI. it happens in social situations. Right before I have to enter a room with allot of women for example. (today) it twitches allot and its so bizarre.

Crazy. I get that too. I never noticed when it happens. It appears to be randomly. But perhaps there's a pattern to mine as well.

(07-20-2017, 09:57 PM)Rayhon Wrote:

(07-20-2017, 09:46 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(07-20-2017, 09:34 PM)Rayhon Wrote:

(07-20-2017, 09:27 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(07-20-2017, 09:20 PM)Rayhon Wrote: Nice! I read that book 3 years ago too I'd highly recommend it also to anyone.

Perhaps you might be still able to learn from your dreams subconsiously without consciously remembering. Not sure but possibly. It's pretty cool though consiously remembering dreams and having gained insights from it.

I'll bet it is.

And yeah, I'm hoping my subcom knows what it all means and will just do it's thingf without me consciously having to know what's up lol. I'm lazy that way.

(07-20-2017, 09:20 PM)Rayhon Wrote: The pain and crying I felt also last night was prob stronger I've ever felt in my life. I was crying my heart out. I felt like all the hate and anger and sadness in my heart was pouring out into a depressingly therapeutic melancholy.

That's crazy man. In a way, it sounds like a larger version of something I've noticed while on DMSI. Periodically (seemingly randomly) I'll get this feeling in my chest as if my heart or ethereal body/life force/ghost/whatever is leaving my physical body for a moment. It happens in varying degrees of intensity and speed. Sometimes flickering like a light switch being switched on and off rapidly, other times like a piece of gum being slowly pulled apart, and everything in between.

Perhaps your dream was just a larger version of whatever that is.

What I felt was one of the strongest emotions i've ever felt and also in my dream I was only crying that intense at certain epiphanies that came in my dream about my relationship with parents and how ego, anger, past, and emotional damage (on both sides but mostly moms) is causing severe strain in the relationship and one day when they die it's impossible to recover the relationship completely. so the only hope is now but its almost impossible to heal the relationship until my mom is healed too and comes to same realization.. This was the underlying theme I felt although none of this was actually verbalized. I was speaking telepathically with someone.

Intense.

My mom is narcissistic and a solid 6/10 who thinks she's a 10/10. She's gone her whole life playing the victim and simultaneously being oblivious to the needs of others (like me).

Took me a long time to come to accept her for who she is and realize it's not up to me to heal her. She has to do that herself. All I can do is act the right way from now on, and sometimes that includes not talking to her anymore. Or in small doses. :/

(07-20-2017, 09:20 PM)Rayhon Wrote: I also noticed in my waking life my eye twitches sometimes and I never used to get it before DMSI. it happens in social situations. Right before I have to enter a room with allot of women for example. (today) it twitches allot and its so bizarre.

Crazy. I get that too. I never noticed when it happens. It appears to be randomly. But perhaps there's a pattern to mine as well.

I think it was Bob Marleys quote that goes something along the lines of "it's the ones that love you that hurt you the most".. It's really true.


It takes extreme maturity for both party's for real healing in relationship to happen. Communication and emotional control. My mom doesn't have it and I'm not completely there yet either. But I only burst out in response, i never start shit anymore like I did in the past.

(07-20-2017, 09:57 PM)Rayhon Wrote: One more last thing about my dream. I already mentioned it but it was so intense I want to try and give u guys a visualization.

I was in the dream, breathing so hard having a major panic attack after crying so hard and I had to sit down on the snow, and I laid down in the snow and I was breathing hard and trying to meditate and calm my breathing down. It was so vivid which made it all that much realer. I'm quiet fascinated by dreams.

(07-30-2017, 08:06 PM)Rayhon Wrote: I noticed I don't let women in my mind at all when i'm at home and by myself. I forgetabout the women that I game. It's like I am 100 percent uncaring, but then there are moments that randomly I think something like "Hmm maybe I should invite this chick, or maybe I should go in this store and see if shes working" ect.

I'm extremely NON needy now but pushing hard then ever to make dates and situations where I meet or encounter women.


my approach anxiety came back but I still was giving women compliments and easy stuff like that.

My Approach anxiety hasn't fully went away, I don't feel strong anxiety at all, infact I feel almost NONE but i still dont have that extra push needed to go approach chicks all the time.

I wish there was more emphasize in DMSI on the guy making more effort to approach. It should be top priority.

(07-31-2017, 09:51 AM)RTBoss Wrote:

(07-30-2017, 08:06 PM)Rayhon Wrote: I noticed I don't let women in my mind at all when i'm at home and by myself. I forgetabout the women that I game. It's like I am 100 percent uncaring, but then there are moments that randomly I think something like "Hmm maybe I should invite this chick, or maybe I should go in this store and see if shes working" ect.

I'm extremely NON needy now but pushing hard then ever to make dates and situations where I meet or encounter women.


my approach anxiety came back but I still was giving women compliments and easy stuff like that.

My Approach anxiety hasn't fully went away, I don't feel strong anxiety at all, infact I feel almost NONE but i still dont have that extra push needed to go approach chicks all the time.

I wish there was more emphasize in DMSI on the guy making more effort to approach. It should be top priority.

Not happening. DMSI is about making the women seduce. Shannon even recently said that he was planning on eventually taking away the "meet them halfway," scripting.