(07-07-2016, 07:17 PM)Steven Wrote: Shannon,

I want to report something and I don't know how to eloquently describe it. I seem to be getting erratic results overall.

Some days it's as though 90% of the women I see I'd be interested in. Other days, none.

Some days most women I talk with seem to be overjoyed to be talking with me. Other days, I get ignored.

I wish I could say something more detailed, but that's the best I can do.

(07-08-2016, 02:44 AM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: Lol. Funny thing happened today. I was at the shopping mall and got approached by a woman in her 60s. She used a situational opener on me. I entertained her for a bit cause she spoke Italian and Greek. But she wouldn't let me go, so I had to end it after 20 mins or so. She was friendly, but annoying at the same time as she lacked social awareness and kept babbling on and on. That's the problem many guys in the pick up community have. They don't let the other person speak and invest in the convo too. Interesting being on the other side.

I saw this hot and tall intimidating blonde going up the escalator. I went beside her, stroked her arm, and went direct on her. It made her a bit shy. She's a local girl. We chatted for a minute so, but she was meeting her friends. She alledgedly had a bf too. I didn't try close, cause there was no substance in that interaction. It was a good start for not having approached in a week. I also have to dramatically improve with locals. I'm really good at getting tourists on dates, but I struggle to connect with locals.

(07-08-2016, 06:17 AM)Steven Wrote: @thor2014

I agree with you completely, and I understand what you're saying. Being reminded to be patient is always helpful.

My intention of offering those comments was to simply state what was happening with the hope the input would be helpful to Shannon rather than imply what I was expecting.

(07-08-2016, 08:22 AM)Steven Wrote: @4Kingdoms

You are right, and I should have kept better records. I also want to make it clear that every thing in this post is to report all the results I can think of rather than display an expectation or impatience regarding result. As I report this, I only speak for what I've noticed.

1) I don't have an exact count as to loops per day. It's always been 5 or more per day.

2) There does not seem to be a correlation as to number of loops and quality of results that I can see at this point. More loops (7+) doesn't seem to be associated with better or worse results. Fewer loops (5 or 6) doesn't seem to be associated with better or worse results. In terms of 5 or more loops, the number of loops appears to be uncorrelated with better or worse results.

3) Use of this program seems to be associated with more extreme results. There has been an increase in the number of days I see women girlfanning and aroused, but also an increase in the number of days in which women ignore me. There has been an increase in the number of days I see women I find appealing, but also an increase in the number of days I see no women I find appealing. For example, I'm perhaps used to seeing women reacting to me positively at a 4 out of 10 on an excitement scale where 10 is the most excited. Now, I'm either seeing 8 or 0. There is a noticeable deviation from baseline. That's why I say an increase and more extreme. I don't know how to explain it any better.

4) The results seem to be fairly binary.
a) I tend to go through a whole day with lots of girlfanning and arousal from women, or I tend to go through a whole day mostly being ignored.
b) I tend to go through a whole day where I see many women who look appealing to me, or I tend to go through a whole day where I see no women I find appealing.
c) Results listed in a) and b) appear to be uncorrelated with and independent of each other.

(07-08-2016, 07:13 AM)ALI6NMENT Wrote: Today I've been really considering getting a sexy female escort to come to my apartment today, I still am. I've never paid for sex in my life and have been very disgusted by this idea for many years but for some reason...now I feel very compelled to do this.

Is this my subconscious finding a short cut to the goals of the program, because how I feel now I probably will do it.

This is not ideal though obviously because the goals of the program should make it FREE sex.

As I said, my beliefs about sex and women must be changing.

(07-08-2016, 07:13 AM)ALI6NMENT Wrote: Today I've been really considering getting a sexy female escort to come to my apartment today, I still am. I've never paid for sex in my life and have been very disgusted by this idea for many years but for some reason...now I feel very compelled to do this.

Is this my subconscious finding a short cut to the goals of the program, because how I feel now I probably will do it.

This is not ideal though obviously because the goals of the program should make it FREE sex.

As I said, my beliefs about sex and women must be changing.

(07-08-2016, 07:13 AM)ALI6NMENT Wrote: Today I've been really considering getting a sexy female escort to come to my apartment today, I still am. I've never paid for sex in my life and have been very disgusted by this idea for many years but for some reason...now I feel very compelled to do this.

Is this my subconscious finding a short cut to the goals of the program, because how I feel now I probably will do it.

This is not ideal though obviously because the goals of the program should make it FREE sex.

As I said, my beliefs about sex and women must be changing.

(07-08-2016, 03:38 PM)ALI6NMENT Wrote: Yeah I know, but too late now. I was so horny nothing could of stopped me , especially as I am on a stricked no fap policy.

I didn't go all the way, just an exotic massage with a blissful ending lol, I won't do it again though. I think when it gets crazy, I will just have to fap so I don't do anything crazy.

I would have NEVER done this before, I don't know what is going on, I an changing but ....not sure I like THIS change.

I definitely prefer intamecy with a girl, I seriously don't think just sex with a girl is what I want.

What can I say, sex is not enough for me. Love connection is where it's at for me, if you have never experienced it you won't understand what I mean.

If I didn't just do what I did, I wouldn't have had the contrast to see what I really want.

(07-08-2016, 03:58 PM)ALI6NMENT Wrote: To be honest I think you should make sub to eliminate sexual desire, it would solve alot of problems.

I'm joking, but seriously I sometimes wish I didn't have sexual desire, then I could just get on with genuine important things in life, without my sausage brain thinking for me.