(10-20-2018, 08:20 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(10-20-2018, 05:35 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: @Shannon Hey Buddy

Ive been on UMOP for 34days so far of which 15 have been 5loops. - no change as yet.

Did the models give any indication when I could see some change if any or is it simply a case of a change would be since anytime upto day 90?

Based on this do you feel the FRM would help me at all?

thanks in advance

They did not indicate when - only that 5 loops should be your second best results. I did not model anything else. I am of the opinion that you have done what I expected you to do, which is, you simply responded to what was forecast for you by adjusting to negate it. I had the feeling that you would do that, and that you would therefore "get no results".

I have run the models again on your situation, and they now show total failure for you at 5 loops per day. That would be what was expected if you were to adjust to the static 5 loops per day to intentionally prevent it from working.

I believe the FRM would help you immensely, as long as it was sufficiently advanced. I don't know if V2 would help you. But it is worth a shot, as is v3, which will be in DMSI 3.3. If you would like to try USLM2 for a while and see if FRMv2 helps, that could be helpful. But the choice of what to do is up to you, but I definitely want to see what DMSI 3.3 does for you when it comes out.

(10-22-2018, 02:54 PM)ianmarconi Wrote: I used this sub for 45 days and had the same experience, i gave up, lost my money, i guess... I didn't continue for the 3 months because it seems a waste of time, had lots of resistance, my mind was looking for answers but i knew something was missing. In my experience, i get more results with subs that have H&C module or "A side", i will await for LTU 5.5g since it could have both USLM and UMOP, it sounds awesome with a H&C module.

(10-29-2018, 09:26 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(10-28-2018, 04:11 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: @Shannon

Hey mate

After my 2 days break, ive missed 7 days due to our communication and my understanding that I was to fail the 5 loops.

Ill get back onto UMOP, so do I restart the count as day 1 or shall I continue, and this is so that if the sub doesnt work then I get the money back - and of course if it works it gives you fresh data?

Get back on it, and at the end of three months we'll assess whether or not you want a refund. Under normal circunstances, this would have invalidated you, but there are a couple of factors in play that make this a special case, so I'm willing to be flexible in this specific case.

Quote:I am up for jumping on DMSI 3.3 but you said FRM v3 will be included in UMOP so after the full 90 days I can then decide on how to move next based on what subs are available.

All I care about is executing and as you know I have done that in the past with 3.2 at 1 loop. Not at more than 1 loop. So hope you can figure out why i did then and not now.

Only variable was that then I was using headphones.

thanks

(10-27-2018, 02:03 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(10-21-2018, 03:30 AM)Jake2015 Wrote:

(10-20-2018, 08:20 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(10-20-2018, 05:35 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: @Shannon Hey Buddy

Ive been on UMOP for 34days so far of which 15 have been 5loops. - no change as yet.

Did the models give any indication when I could see some change if any or is it simply a case of a change would be since anytime upto day 90?

Based on this do you feel the FRM would help me at all?

thanks in advance

They did not indicate when - only that 5 loops should be your second best results. I did not model anything else. I am of the opinion that you have done what I expected you to do, which is, you simply responded to what was forecast for you by adjusting to negate it. I had the feeling that you would do that, and that you would therefore "get no results".

I have run the models again on your situation, and they now show total failure for you at 5 loops per day. That would be what was expected if you were to adjust to the static 5 loops per day to intentionally prevent it from working.

I believe the FRM would help you immensely, as long as it was sufficiently advanced. I don't know if V2 would help you. But it is worth a shot, as is v3, which will be in DMSI 3.3. If you would like to try USLM2 for a while and see if FRMv2 helps, that could be helpful. But the choice of what to do is up to you, but I definitely want to see what DMSI 3.3 does for you when it comes out.

Thanks for taking the time to reply as always @Shannon

1) Can I get my money back therefore for UMOP as it hasnt worked after following instructions? if not then must I use it for 90days for this since we both now know it will only fail for me?

We both know it will fail for you? You didn't read what I wrote. I wrote that you changed the forecast. You can also change it to success. So based on that, and the fact that our refund policy is what it is, and the fact that FRM will probably be making its way into the UMOP script in the not too distant future, I suggest you continue along for the time being. There is still hope.

After three months if you still haven't gotten results, I'll be glad to refund you, but you have to at least follow the time specifications on the instructions for the refund policy to qualify since we changed the loops for you.

Quote:2) I understand. I havent intentionally done anything except tried both 3 loops and then 5 loops and just sad its not worked even now. I have shared whatever data I thought I could and should as always and will remain to do this openly going forward too so please do watch for my next journal.

Do you suppose your resistance is unintentional? Accidental? I think not. You may not consciously be resisting, but you are resisting with intent subconsciously, and the proof is in your track record. I will point out to you that you have resisted 100% of my subs to the point of no results so far, if I understand correctly. Now that would mean that one of the following is true:

A) My subs simply don't work, 100% of the time. We can safely rule that out, given the fact that we could not stay in business if that were the case.
B) You are intentionally adjusting your response to each sub to prevent it from working 100% of the time.

My mother used to do this thing where she would resist any forecast made for her, no matter who made it or what it said, because subconsciously, she took it as "being told what to do". This included the prediction my maternal grandfather made that she would have no children (the doctors told her that having me would put her life at risk, but she did it anyway), and every single forecast I ever made for her - with the exception of those she didn't know about.

If she knew about them, they failed to come to pass 100% of the time. If not, they succeeded about 90% of the time.

One of my friends (who does not believe that any prediction is possible outside of mathematics) does the exact same thing. If he knows about it, 100% failure rate. If not, ~90% success rate.

Now think about this... chance would be 50%. So we can safely and definitely conclude that statistically speaking, neither case is chance. It is A) the intentional actions and choices of the person to defeat and change the forecast future to something else, or it is a successful forecast in most cases.

Your track record tells me without a doubt that at some level, you are intentionally resisting and preventing the outcome.

Quote:3) Since you want me to try FRM, isnt it possible my subconscious will do the same as it has with 5loops and negate that because you have said try FRM? or am I misunderstanding things here?

Anything is possible. I suggest you remain on UMOP, though. I have to observe the refund policy on the time at least, since I instructed you to change the number of loops.

Quote:4) I feel based on many factors which ill share, that its best I wait for DMSI 3.3 rather than jump onto USLM2 in haste:

a) I know of 1 member that has had reversal resistance on USLM2, and presume as i am a difficult resistant type that thus it may not work for me. (I read posts and came across 1 member but dont read everything so apologise if there are more with resistance on USLM2)

b) I would much rather go for the stronger tech than try and hope that FRM.v2 works. I have in the past chosen subs for a purpose but then jumped onto DMSI for the sole reason of trying to get to the tech that will assist me to execute and only jumped onto UMOP as this was and had always been the 1 sub that I knew I needed most of all. Alas now im back at square 1 so thus will only remain on DMSI until we get me executing.

c) 3.3 will start build around 20th November you said, so makes better sense to wait for that.

d) For me USLM2's effects would be a tricky one to notice, I feel. I feel overall that im a fortunate and lucky guy. At times things just happen for me and I notice these things and then show gratitude each and everytime that it happened. Therefore unless I win the lottery which I dont play or suddenly come into wealth of some large extreme measure I wouldnt be able to notice execution of this sub I feel thus much better to try 3.3 as its results will be beyond obvious in terms of not fapping, not wasting time with porn, getting fitter physically, eating right, looking after myself and overall and most of all getting female attention and females trying to get me.

e) Both YOU and I are eager to see how 3.3 with the v3 of FRM works on me.

Once DMSI 3.3 comes out, I plan to add FRM v3 to UMOP and USLM. So you can then use UMOP with FRMv3 and see what happens, and still be eligible for a refund if it still fails.

Quote:5) Shall I therefore take 35days break now in anticipation of DMSI 3.3?

Not advised if you want a refund. Otherwise, have at it.

Quote:6) When DMSI 3.3 is made and released, would it be better I start the same as every one else or would you prefer to perform a modelling forecast for me with it, so we can hit the ground running at the best number of loops?

I will not be modeling for you again, since I see now that you're likely to go out of your way to prevent it from coming to pass. That is a big part of why I don't use the models for individuals very often.

When 3.3 is made and released, though, if you decide to forego a refund on UMOP and decide to run DMSI 3.3, you should follow the instructions, whatever they are.

Quote:I am glad that I didnt in haste spend more money on devices to try the 11loop since now we know (though im not fully sure how) that my subconscious will negate any effects you inform me of. I dont recall you telling me anything about 5loops or 11loops except that the models said that they would work really well and to me this is no different to each and every time I have bought a sub, with the proviso that the sub will work 100% as the sales page suggests it would. Therefore I hope that whatever the issues are for me not executing can be resolved with your help.

I think 11 loops might have actually worked regardless of your resistance. But we will never know.

Quote:My goal is same as yours, to get past whatever obstacles are preventing me from fully executing so that you can make the best subs on the planet and I can of course execute and benefit. If you recall the 1 time I am 100% sure that I executed was on 1 loops with headphones on 3.2. I still believe 1 loop with headphones perhaps is the best way for me to execute but im throwing this in there incase its data you can consider for me.

Your conscious goal may be the same as mine, but it is clearly not your subconscious goal.

Quote:That being said, thank you for allowing me to be part of this journey with IML and even though im sad about UMOP, after 3 years im still optimistic that I can be helped.

We will continue doing what we can. But once 6G comes out, there is nothing left to try: it either works for you or it doesn't, and that's that.

Quote:Thanks in advance buddy!

addendum:
I just realised that I havent noticed any TID from 3.3 so does this mean I already wont execute that too?

It means either:

A) You won't be running DMSI 3.3 like you thought you would, or
B) You are still far enough away from start to resist the TID effects.

Quote:Continuing with UMOP - today listened to 5 loops - Tuesday 30th October 2018

Have to make this short as must study for a test tomorrow and already have not (time 5.26pm)

Will update journal fully later and calculate what day im on etc.

Quote:Day 36 - Monday 22 Oct 2018
(Cycle 4 - complete - 2nd/4 cycles using 5 Loops)
Masked Trickling Stream track from now.

Day 2 of 2 day break was today.