(03-16-2018, 04:41 AM)josh84 Wrote: Hi shannon, i have completed 21 days of loops so far using headphones and havent noticed much so far its hard to tell really as even porn and masturbating is still possible i choose not to but i can do that easily before dmsi too but if i wanted there isnt much resistance in stopping me from watching it at the moment like others have noticed.

I have surround sound speakers setup to my computer just wondering would it be better to try hybrid without headphones and sit at the desk close to speakers and see how that works. I realise headphones going directly into our ears are meant to be better but so far but without noticing much if anything maybe trying without headphones might be a better option.

It has a sub woofer connected will that cause a problem with the audio i dont believe any of it has noise cancelling so it shouldnt be an issue.

(03-16-2018, 06:07 AM)Ymiraku Wrote: I honestly haven't noticed much either but i've only been using the program for a week. Is it really necessary to completely abstain from masturbation? I understand not watching porn but is there something in the program which commands the sub-conscious to avoid masturbation?

If this is true then does masturbation prevent the entirety of the script from successfully reprogramming the subconscious?

Going for such long periods without masturbation may lead to embarrassing premature ejaculation during sex when it comes. I understand if you are getting a lot of sex then masturbation is not necessary but if the sex isn't there wouldn't it just lead to more frustration and neediness?

(03-16-2018, 07:05 AM)Mr. Anderson Wrote:

(03-15-2018, 11:01 AM)Shannon Wrote: I would say it's pretty unlikely that you figured it out. But spoiling it for other people isn't the risk, it would be destroying a very expensive experiment. So regardless, I appreciate you not even conjecturing as to what it does.

Will you tell what it was when the experiment is finished?

(03-17-2018, 05:00 AM)thor2014 Wrote:

(03-16-2018, 11:16 PM)Determined Wrote:

(03-16-2018, 10:05 AM)thor2014 Wrote: When it comes to men talking about how many women they have shagged take it with a pinch of salt . All men love to brag about their exploits to impress other men. I know one guy who claimed to have three somes every weekend. It turned out he had setup his own escort agency

(03-15-2018, 05:34 PM)alphabeta35 Wrote:

(03-14-2018, 11:16 PM)Determined Wrote: There's nothing wrong with getting laid. In fact chasing skirt in your 20's is optimal.

I have a friend whose slept with 1000+ women and he says it's only through this process do you refine what you want in a woman. He likened sexual experience to primary school - high school - college education. It's pretty limiting for a man to be in his 30's and have only a primary school level of understanding with women due to his own inexperience.

It's also pretty limiting for a guy to be making the same mistakes over and over again without learning rapidly. The faster a man goes through this process, the better able they are to achieve fulfillment and satisfaction with women.

can you please get your friend to contact shannon and maybe shannon could get some pointers as to how these guys are thinking?
I had a similar friend and before I could get some "education" as you call it, he moved away.

Lol, if you haven't noticed by now, I'm one of the most skeptical members here.

I'm always seeking evidence, always calling people out on their fallacious assumptions. I wouldn't be concluding that the guy is the real deal if I didn't have ocular proof. Women melt around him because he knows what he's doing.

It's also an over generalisation on your part to say "all men love to brag about their exploits". Only men who seek validation from others brag about their accomplishments. Be careful you're not projecting your own view and universalising it to everyone else.

Its true matey. Can you honestly say that you have never ever bragged about anything in your entier life ?

(03-16-2018, 07:54 AM)lano1106 Wrote:

(03-14-2018, 08:16 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(03-13-2018, 07:42 PM)lano1106 Wrote:

(03-13-2018, 05:06 PM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: although no sex yet. But I feel like I might be close and the dam could burst at any moment.

Me neither no sex yet. You know, it is either a limiting belief or a very lucid view of reality but I have a hard time imagining a woman taking the lead to have sex (at least not the type of women that I find attractive...)

In my reality model, a woman wanting to have sex with me will be extremely cooperative with my suggestion of isolation her but as a man, I still have to lead to make it happen.

To have everyday adventures that would put to shame most of the best cheesy porn scenarios is certainly accessible to all DMSI users. It is just a matter to have the strong belief that it is possible and behave accordingly and make moves on girls.

Possibly this is something you acquire with positive experience feedback...at first slowly and eventually, you become a legendary stud....

I still have restraints in that department possibly due to strong social programming. I think that minimal actions is required by the user to get results IOW, execute the script (know idea consciously what it is the script exactly...)

I think the two biggest things holding you guys back are the prison bars you have created for yourselves from fear of succeeding at the goals (not knowing yet how to get from Point A to Point C, with Point B being scary because it is undefined), or being afraid of women, sex, the potential consequences of having sex, or maybe even your own sexuality;

...and the prison bars you have created for yourselves concerning what it means to "be a man". A lot of you have so built your core identities on "Me man, me must hunt, me must be initiator, me must be aggressor, me must do all work, me man!" that you cannot conceive in your own heads of being a man and being so high value that none of that is actually necessary. The really high value males, the real top level guys, the guys who are truly the cream of the crop, they do not chase because they never have to! You instead are stuck in the logical fallacy of insisting on the past: 1. It has never happened to me before that way, so obviously, it never will. 2. I have never seen a woman come on to a man in real life, so obviously that is impossible. 3. I have never been that high value before to a woman, so obviously, I never will.

These are the final barriers we face for almost all of you. Think about them. Realize how much YOU are stopping yourself by accepting these as true. I already have programming in the script that tries to deal with all of this, but you guys are fighting it so hard in a lot of cases that you refuse to allow it to execute, and refuse to open yourself to the new reality in which these beliefs are no longer limiting you.

Shannon, I appreciate your feedback and I acknowledged it. I try very hard to accept it as-is and not argue it. OTOH, I feel very compelled to clarify few points about my mind and situation.

1. I never said that DMSI was not working. There is strong undeniable positive changes in behavior with women that I interact with and I am extremely happy about it. Just no wild sex adventures yet.

Also, I should point out that I did not have sex WITH new partners since DMSI 3.2. I did have sex but not much and not at all since about 2 weeks.

I start to be very horny and this is a very strong source of motivation to make things happen....

I usually don't feel that much horny. This is usually manageable so I kinda can sweep this life aspect under the carpet and focus on other things

Finally, I didn't get DMSI to have a lot of sex with a lot of different women. I see myself as charismatic and likeable and I figured that adding sexual magnetism to me would increase my influence.

I'm more looking into the influence side benefits of being irresistible sexually than actually have a lot of sex with a lot of women.

In fact, last summer, I was wondering if I would be better to use BASE as it is more in line with what I want to accomplish and on your recommendation, I did stay on DMSI.

I must say that during my last business trip, I met few very influent women in my industry and I believe that DMSI did help me in advancing my business goals so I thank you very much to create such splendid programs!

2. You might be right about my struggle about defining what a man is. I have been raised by a single feminist mother. I had no strong masculine father figure to model during my childhood.

Mainstream media is of no help to defining good masculine models. Last week, I saw an american magazine front page saying: beta males are wining.

This is such a non-sense. By definition if you are beta, you aren't winning....

It seems MSM hates men. When you talk about toxic masculinity, there is something wrong in that message. Being a strong man can bring a lot to a society IMHO.

but beside my situation, I would not describe it as a problem. It is rather a journey. The author that I resonate a lot with about what is a man and what is the feminine essence is David Deida.

I'm just going to simplify David Deida idea but I pretty much buy into it:
A strong man has a vision. Takes action to realize its vision. He is dominant and is a natural leader.
A feminine woman is slightly submissive. Has a very caring energy. She is attracted by a dominant man who is leading her.

That being said. This is very in line with my belief. I am attracted to that feminine archetype and I'll never be with a liberal feminist woman that thinks that it is her right and duty to act like a man. For me this is a HUGE turn off.

This is my tastes in women and that belongs to me. We cannot argue on that. That being said, I have to be congruent with my expectations. The type of women that I'm attracted to, even if attracted to me, will not take the lead to make sex happen. The best that I can expect is that she will cooperate and make my task very easy so that I can lead her to sex.

Quote:And I can relate to what you describe as a high-value male. Before I started DMSI, I got this wild night in a club where I went there with a female friend and her female friend. So I came in the place with 2 girls. I noticed the most beautiful girl in the place. I went to see her to say hello. She had an immediate crush on me as I kept bumping into her all along the night.

She did ask if we had plans after the place close. She did put her phone # into my phone without me asking for it. She did qualify big time to me by telling me what she was doing at her job (she tried to impress me). As she was talking to me, in the back of my mind, I was telling to myself: She is so much into me. I have this girl.

So when the club did close, we ended up at my friend place and I ended in bed with these 3 girls.

So I know what it is when a girl is around a high-value male. That type of adventure simply did not happen much since DMSI 3.1... I just shared this story to establish that I know what it looks like when a girl is chasing a guy...

Quote:3. idk, if you will agree but I don't believe that I high-value man will dedicate time to chase women. This is opposite of being high-value. I believe that a high-value man is busy realizing his vision and women see the potential of the man so she is attracted to that.

Quote:My problem is that I'm so busy with my vision (my business) that my social life is taking a hit. I have small interactions with women during random errands. Very positive interactions but I need to do something (like exchanging contact infos) or else nothing happens. I'm all in for letting women chasing me but I need to at least give them the opportunity to do so.

Right now, this is not an habit to leave my contact infos to women reacting very positively to me when I meet them. This is something that I should be doing on autopilot without having to think about it...

You can say that I have blocks, limiting beliefs but right now this is my best explanation for not having maybe not as much sex as I could have...

(03-16-2018, 11:01 AM)ichigo Wrote: Hey Shannon, you said back in October 2017 in your journal:

Shannon Wrote:One of the areas I have been researching is what I can do to improve the OED sub. That is a program that I will also be working on at some time in the not too distant future. Speaking of that, I believe I have corrected the script that was triggering that for some of you in DMSI 3.1.

Is releasing an OED sub in 5.5G still something that's in your schedule? I have OED 5G but I don't know whether to just wait for 5.5G as it's likely going to be so much more powerful.

(03-16-2018, 02:55 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: Hey Shannon

1) I didnt feel sleepy/tired today from listening (headphones) - is this a good sign?

Quote:2) Can stress (in my case uni stress) affect the sub at all, or does it not matter either way?

thanks in advance my friend

(03-16-2018, 11:16 PM)Determined Wrote:

(03-16-2018, 10:05 AM)thor2014 Wrote: When it comes to men talking about how many women they have shagged take it with a pinch of salt . All men love to brag about their exploits to impress other men. I know one guy who claimed to have three somes every weekend. It turned out he had setup his own escort agency

(03-15-2018, 05:34 PM)alphabeta35 Wrote:

(03-14-2018, 11:16 PM)Determined Wrote: There's nothing wrong with getting laid. In fact chasing skirt in your 20's is optimal.

I have a friend whose slept with 1000+ women and he says it's only through this process do you refine what you want in a woman. He likened sexual experience to primary school - high school - college education. It's pretty limiting for a man to be in his 30's and have only a primary school level of understanding with women due to his own inexperience.

It's also pretty limiting for a guy to be making the same mistakes over and over again without learning rapidly. The faster a man goes through this process, the better able they are to achieve fulfillment and satisfaction with women.

can you please get your friend to contact shannon and maybe shannon could get some pointers as to how these guys are thinking?
I had a similar friend and before I could get some "education" as you call it, he moved away.

Lol, if you haven't noticed by now, I'm one of the most skeptical members here.

I'm always seeking evidence, always calling people out on their fallacious assumptions. I wouldn't be concluding that the guy is the real deal if I didn't have ocular proof. Women melt around him because he knows what he's doing.

It's also an over generalisation on your part to say "all men love to brag about their exploits". Only men who seek validation from others brag about their accomplishments. Be careful you're not projecting your own view and universalising it to everyone else.

(03-17-2018, 06:22 AM)Shannon Wrote: I am currently finished building the cough sub to help myself and am working on the custom now. I also have to build a couple of focusfire subs to keep releases up this month. I don't know when OED will get attention, because it is a complex and challenging topic, and I may wait for 6G.

(03-17-2018, 07:49 AM)hsindermann Wrote:

(03-17-2018, 06:22 AM)Shannon Wrote: I am currently finished building the cough sub to help myself and am working on the custom now. I also have to build a couple of focusfire subs to keep releases up this month. I don't know when OED will get attention, because it is a complex and challenging topic, and I may wait for 6G.

Is Ultra Motivation on the list by any chance (if that even would work as focusfire sub)?

(03-17-2018, 08:11 AM)Dmitry Wrote: Hi, Shannon! I just bought your Self Esteem 5.5G and its really cool sub, indeed. I have a question: what modules does it have (my left hemisphere wants to know). Does it contains H&C, Optimus Engine version... etc. Thanks!