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RE: Jake's **UMOP** - 5 LOOPS - Jake2015 - 10-13-2018
(10-13-2018, 01:43 PM)cataleya Wrote:(10-13-2018, 01:31 PM)Jake2015 Wrote:(10-13-2018, 01:29 PM)cataleya Wrote: I still think you need to fix your sleeping schedule first. You are all over the place. I recommend you watch/listen to a Joe Rogan podacast intervew with Matthew Walker on the topic of sleep. If this interview doesn`t make you want to fix your sleeping schedule, nothing will.
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwaWilO_Pig
Thank you very much @cataleya I will watch this!! - appreciate it!
My sleep, my diet, my nutrition its all over the place. Nothing is as it should be.
You're welcometo me your bad sleeping schedule is just another form od procrastination. If you don't go to sleep on time or wake up on time then you lose a half a day so you "can't" get anything done. If you sleep only 5 hours then you're tired so you again can't get anything done.
You're absolutely right on this! and its been something I have struggled with for years. I will watch the video and I hope that @Shannon is taking note of all this data which im sure he already knows but just hope I can get through all this crap! Thank you @cataleya
RE: Jake's **UMOP** - 5 LOOPS - Jake2015 - 10-14-2018
Day 28 - Sunday 14th Oct 2018
(Time: 4.38pm) - (Cycle 4 - Day 1 - Start of 2nd cycle using 5 Loops)
I want to say thank you to those of you that read and help me out with youtube recommendations and things to do. I appreciate the support and try to give back if and when I can so know I value you and this forum alot. - Thank you All.
Dreams:
Nothing has changed for me so far however last night I had I think 2 maybe 3 big dreams.
I wish I could remember the last 2 but I cannot.
The only 1 dream that I can remember I believe was the first dream of the night (I could be wrong) and i will try to explain it as best as I can from what I remember.
I was in a car and I was driving in the UK.
Ahead the road I was on split into 3 lanes approaching traffic lights; 1 traffic light on each of these 3 lanes.. Maybe you guys call them other things such as signal lights or traffic signals or something but in the UK we have them as RED, AMBER (yellow) and green.
The lane I wanted to take and would take is the 3rd, the far right lane.
For some reason I was approaching fast and felt in control however as I got closer I realised I had far far too much speed and was unable to slow the car down to get into the 3rd lane. My car was approaching the centre/2nd lane. As I tried to turn the wheel to go to the 3rd lane the car was veering itself to the first lane.
I was slamming the breaks because I needed to slow down so that I could get it to the 3rd lane but the car even with slowing down was still too fast and now approaching the first lane.
I was shitting bricks cos I was approaching red lights I think, since the feeling I had inside of me was that the cars driving left-right across must be green light. I was slamming the breaks and still I wasnt stopping.
I went through the lights and across the road that was left - right and luckily hit no cars.
I was still hitting the brakes and still slowing down but too slowly.
I then was approaching I think either some road bollards (please google to see what these are) or a wall. I honestly cant remember but I am 60-80% it was bollards not a wall.
Again I was shitting bricks lol I should point out I wasnt terrified I dont think, it wasnt as if I was the scarediest (is this a word?) that I have every been yet I was scared I was going to hit the bollards and the feelings I had were the same I had when I hit my car as a new driver onto some raised pavement/paving. It was of some fear and embarrassment too and im not saying these were at the most level, of say 10, but maybe around 5-6.
Anyway as I got over the road and approached the bollards, the car was slowing down but still too far.
At the last moment, I managed to stir and skid the car to the left (90 degrees to the left) so that it stopped right against the bollards, parallel to them, with the right side of the car just touching them.
I havent ever done a skid in my life so in my dream I must be michael knight (knight rider tv show for any millennials here) lol
Anyway I think someone outside tells me that I scratched the side of my car, or I came out and saw. I was scared of what my father or family might say I had done to the car I think as this relates to the same feelings I had when I had done this as an early driver, as mentioned above.
Anyway then the dream ended.
Im not sure at all if I have shared this accurately in regards to my feelings, as im adding that to give you the sense of how the dream was but it was a dream I remember since the moment I woke and needed to share to see what anyone including @Shannon makes of this.
I wouldnt call this particular dream a very bad or scary nightmare, it was negatively exhilarating to some degree but it wasnt one of intense fear but some fear and apprehension. I didnt wake up from it or from my sleep thinking wow I had a nightmare, simply a dream that was new to me and one to be shared so Im glad I remember the main points.
If this is just a dream then so be it as I havent noticed any change in my behaviour as yet or thoughts etc but if this is UMOP then its hopefully a positive sign.
thank you
RE: Jake's **UMOP** - 5 LOOPS - Jake2015 - 10-14-2018
update1:
Same as yesterday, im getting this unmotivated feeling and im just super tired and lazy. - im actually tired so going to bed to rest I think.
RE: Jake's **UMOP** - 5 LOOPS - Jake2015 - 10-14-2018
update2:
Couldnt sleep, spent time in bed watching youtube.
Got up and ate, and just feel completely unmotivated.
Will need to shower soon and get to bed but not feeling motivated for uni tomororw at all.
RE: Jake's **UMOP** - 5 LOOPS - Jake2015 - 10-14-2018
Update 3 & Summary
So had shower and now ready for bed. Time is 1.33am. Waking in 6hours time after 5loops are done.
Today and yesterday ie the weekend has been nothing but major procrastination and complete unmotivation.
I felt the week was tiring but this was so bad that I wish the weekend was longer so I could snap out of it.
No idea if this is resistance from UMOP or simply my downward trough of my wave much like Shannon's cycle and that my upward crest of my motivation wave is coming up soon.
Either way whatever this is it wasn't good. I wasted all weekend due to this powerful hold over me.
My dream still needs some interpreting so if anyone or @Shannon can do that please do incase it's relevant to my case.
Thanks
RE: Jake's **UMOP** - 5 LOOPS - Jake2015 - 10-15-2018
Day 29 - Monday 15th Oct 2018
(Time: 5.09pm) - (Cycle 4 - Day 2 - 2nd/4 cycles using 5 Loops)
For some reason my phones music player was set on repeat of all in playlist and also on shuffle. I dont understand at all how or why.
From this I imagine I listened to 5 loops and at most 5.5loops as there was no room to listen to more but at most 6loops.
Hopefully this wont be a major issue and I promise to be more diligent each night before setting my player to play.
I had no dream unlike the vivid dream I had reported yesterday and since I dont feel any different I can only surmise that this dream was perhaps either not due to UMOP or somehow due to it and im just unaware of its inner workings.
@Hatman and @cataleya both recently shared youtube videos with me. I admit the latter is so long that its going to take me a while to get through it however it did remind me of the importance of sleep so after typing this I will get down to some planning for when to shower and when to sleep.
The former video reminded me of the power of implementation intentions so ill try to start incorporating that into my life.
Overall however im procrastinating still. When im outside im getting on with whatever I need to, but once I get home, I eat and then get tired, and get lazy and just want to procrastinate.
I am tired this is due to 6hours sleep which is never enough and this I MUST change but it not easy too.
I am curious as to how the new FRM does for others and if so whether it would be prudent for me to get onto this but ill continue with this sub until shannon says otherwise.
thanks
RE: Jake's **UMOP** - 5 LOOPS - Jake2015 - 10-15-2018
Update1:
Since coming home, I ate, chilled, relaxed and fapped. I believe that when I eat after coming in from outside, my drive is low, and my desire to relax in comfort is high.
I seem to need/require around 2-4hours of time including eating time to fully relax and rejuvenate.
It is during this time that I feel the worst for procrastinating but really I should realise that I need this time to just relax and be one with myself perhaps.
Anyway I did some productive things today since coming home which is contact a health practitioner, to see him this week. ive been avoiding it because the journey this time wont be made by me in a taxi but via public transport to save money and thus seems painful hence procrastinate upon it.
I also emailed an online personal trainer I have been in talks with to start with and now finally pushed myself to do it so that there is no procrastination on this.
I however am not making any progress, these are just things I have been delaying and delaying and today had to just start irrespective of how the sub works or not.
Still waiting for that moment the 5loops kicks in.
no fap should really be in this sub I think and all other delaying avoidance tactics.
RE: Jake's **UMOP** - 5 LOOPS - Jake2015 - 10-16-2018
Day 30 - Tuesday 16th Oct 2018
(Time: 1.19pm) - (Cycle 4 - Day 3 - 2nd/4 cycles using 5 Loops)
30th Day - no change
RE: Jake's **UMOP** - 5 LOOPS - Ryu - 10-16-2018
Still no change, but have you tried Masked version of umop, just too see if that does something for you?
RE: Jake's **UMOP** - 5 LOOPS - Jake2015 - 10-16-2018
(10-16-2018, 02:55 AM)Ryu Wrote: Still no change, but have you tried Masked version of umop, just too see if that does something for you?
No I havent, thats something another member suggested so I may as well try that now, so for the next 30days (or less) I will try trickling stream masked track.
Thank you @Ryu and @josh84 for suggesting this to me.
RE: Jake's **UMOP** - 5 LOOPS - Jake2015 - 10-16-2018
Update 1:
For the next 30days I will be using Masked Trickling Stream (NOT hybrid Trickling Stream) to see if this helps.
Time: 5.15pm
I am tired, very tired. Im unsure if it is sugar rush or lack of sleep due to 6hours or both but I am tired.
Since coming home my energy has been low after eating especially and I am just wanting to sleep.
I will try and get to bed at 9pm and therefore get as much sleep as I possibly can from today and onwards.
RE: Jake's **UMOP** - 5 LOOPS - Jake2015 - 10-17-2018
Day 31 - Wednesday 17th Oct 2018
(Time: 10.22pm) - (Cycle 4 - Day 4 - 2nd/4 cycles using 5 Loops)
Masked Trickling Stream track from now.
So next 30 days begins and as you can see im using not the hybrid but masked to see if that has any better results.
Nothing much has changed. I do feel a little less stressed I guess internally about taking action towards studying but still not doing it and same goes for most things - ie procrastination is rife.
I have had a bad 24hours but doubt its UMOP related. Its related to so called friends or associates I have at this university and how they have treated me.
My reaction seems justified and if not then I can only hope that whatever so called sensitivity I may have exhibited will be rectified by future subs.
I tried to sleep lastnight at 9pm. To fix my sleep. I couldnt. My mind was racing and my heart was somewhat heavy too due to this drama at uni in which I am a victim undoubtably.
Anyway I then got up at 11pm and just I dont actually remember cos I was so down and stressed. I eventually fell asleep at 1.30am I think.
I woke after 6hours sleep and 5loops.
I went to uni and then had an appointment with my docs.
At 3pm I was exhausted and fell asleep in bed till 6pm.
I feel better from the sleep and now my friend is coming over so ill close this for now.
RE: Jake's **UMOP** - 5 LOOPS - Jake2015 - 10-18-2018
Day 32 - Thursday 18th Oct 2018
(Time: 2.35pm) - (Cycle 4 - Day 5 - 2nd/4 cycles using 5 Loops)
Masked Trickling Stream track from now.
Had 6-7hours sleep. Woke, went to uni.
Came back at breakfast, will have a cup of tea and sleep.
I feel tired, sleepy again and also my left nostril is sore. - umop no idea but sharing all data as usual.
Overal no results as yet.
RE: Jake's **UMOP** - 5 LOOPS - Jake2015 - 10-18-2018
update1:
Had a sore throat throat from my sleep/daytime nap and nose is blocked a little.
Guess either UMOP is being resisted or I am sick
