(02-10-2017, 11:44 AM)Mystic Pymp Wrote: But I will try it and I will try next versions because somehow BIATBW worked, AM6 worked and I want DMSI to work as well. Perhaps one day I will be proven wrong

(02-10-2017, 11:44 AM)Mystic Pymp Wrote: No need to be sorry, I'm being simply sick and tired of the rhetoric Shannon and most vocal forum members (5% of users who post 95% of posts, mostly useless spam with no merit) indulge in. Hype where hype is due, but yet another version of DMSI is hardly worth any attention if the trend is to continue.

But I will try it and I will try next versions because somehow BIATBW worked, AM6 worked and I want DMSI to work as well. Perhaps one day I will be proven wrong

(02-10-2017, 11:24 AM)Mystic Pymp Wrote:

(02-10-2017, 11:07 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote: I've never seen Shannon so happy about a DMSI version being released as he is about v3.1. I think v3.1 will be a game changer for all of us, even with the people that had success with the older versions.

I'm glad you are going to give v3.1 a shot!!

You have short memory then, my friend. Since DMSI was called DAOSI I believe each version is being hyped as "the best new thing" and "awesome new technologies" and whatever else and still I only get worse and worse results. It's funny that DMSI 2.4 gave me some results and didn't destroy me internally like DMSI 3.0.1 did, and backwater BIATBW gave me zillion times better results than DMSI 2.4.

That's what I have to say about the hype and next version being the game changer.

(02-11-2017, 03:01 PM)Shannon Wrote: The difference between those of you getting great results and those getting no results or poor results. Do you know what it is?

Same script going in, different results coming out. The difference is in how much the user cooperates and executes the script. The difference is in the user. The same potential exists for all of you. It's the same exact instruction set.

(02-11-2017, 03:16 PM)Mystic Pymp Wrote:

(02-11-2017, 03:01 PM)Shannon Wrote: The difference between those of you getting great results and those getting no results or poor results. Do you know what it is?

Same script going in, different results coming out. The difference is in how much the user cooperates and executes the script. The difference is in the user. The same potential exists for all of you. It's the same exact instruction set.

So, just as I said before, is it my fault DMSI doesn't work for me while BIATBW without all those fancy technologies did work? Do you say there is something wrong with me which will cause me to simply stonewall everything DMSI tries to do while more primitive subs did at least some tangible difference?

Tell it to my face instead of asking rhetorical questions, Shannon.

(02-11-2017, 05:01 PM)K-Train Wrote: I can understand Mystic Pymp's frustration though Shannon. There are guys who don't approach, don't make much effort to "get out there" for various reasons ex.) too much fear, inexperience, etc. That said, those who do NOT approach because they want to force DMSI to accomplish its design goals, more power to you. No harm no foul and perfectly understandable and within your right as a purchaser of DMSI.

But Mystic Pymp is putting in some effort here though. If what he's saying is correct, he's doing a great deal on his own (consciously mind you) in order to put himself in a good position to get results. He's not sitting on the bench wondering why he's not getting the ball and not making any shots. He's out there hustling, getting dirty, doing the things that other guys either don't want to do or know how to do (once again, those guys have their reasons, so no harm no foul). So I can fully understand why he's frustrated because he's taking the shots but the shots just aren't going in the net.

Using your soccer analogy some guys are running around on the field with no clue what they're doing due to inexperience (which is fine, we all started there), some guys know about the game a little bit but are too afraid to take the shot even if they get a good look (inexperience and fear), others like Mystic Pymp have the will and desire and take the shot but the ball refuses to go into the net even if the look they had was good, and finally you have the rare breed (Chaosvrgn and Benjamin for example) who know about "the game", understand large parts of "the game", and are willing to get on the field, dribble, take the shot, and MAKE THE SHOT (sex).

You gotta admit...it's a bit...frustrating to see guys who are NOT making much effort to take the shots but are getting (in some cases) free penalty kicks. I'm not discounting what you said btw Shannon. Everything you said was valid. I'm just saying that I fully understand and sympathize with Mystic Pymp but as long as I've known you you've never been one to back down from challenges (willingly) so I am hopeful you'll find a way to make it so that everyone can score (figuratively and literally) .

(02-11-2017, 05:11 PM)Mystic Pymp Wrote: Shannon my dear, do you even listen to me? Or do you assume that I CHOOSE not to cooperate with DMSI while I DID CHOSEN to cooperate with BIATBW? I can promise you two things:
1) So far I did the same amount of work with both of them
2) I consciously (maybe my subconscious was screwed somehow this past year) wanted both of them to work.
And yet somehow with BIATBW I had choices and when I saw golden opportunity I went for it and lost my virginity. The only girl that showed me real interest during DMSI is my friend (which I noticed giving me IoIs back in May while running AM6). Oh, there were others, but as soon as I'd approach them they would bail, something that never (because with both subs I was going for "sure" things) happened with BIATBW. So yeah, I am to fault that older sub worked so much better for me than newer one.

What exactly am I doing wrong? What is this responsibility that you're trying to blame me on that I don't see? Same amount of work, same dedication, much worse results. I don't expect subs to do work for me, but I expect help and year ago I did receive it. Now I get nothing and I hear it's my fault.

(02-11-2017, 08:00 PM)RTBoss Wrote: I really think this program is going to get everyone who wants to "get there," to get there. But with all the scripting and facets of the program to get there and really get things poppin' - the kind of results that seem like magic, like a different reality, like a whole life you've never imagined - well, that's going to take some time and, like Shannon said, cooperation.

(02-11-2017, 06:02 PM)Shannon Wrote: First, let's take these words "blame" and "fault". The reason you have some of this issue is the frame you're using. There's no blame or fault. We are discussing a situation in which you are frustrated at the outcome of using a subliminal.

Second, let's consider that you consciously and you subconsciously are not the same. You consciously can desperately want the result, while you subconsciously can be dead set against it. This is why a lot of people who are overweight stay that way in spite of all their conscious efforts to change.

Consciously, you may be trying. Consciously, you may be taking your share of the responsibility. And that's all well and good. But there is some part of you that is choosing to not cooperate. Choosing to not execute the script. That part of you is still part of you. And that means that as frustrating as it may be for you consciously, you are still responsible for any success or failure you have with one of these programs.

That's why when people thank me for getting them the results, I remind them that I didn't do it, they did.

You have to take responsibility for your choices and actions, even if they are subconscious, because otherwise that part of you can do whatever it wants and get away with it. Hidden Mystic Pymp screws everything up, public Mystic Pymp says it's because Shannon's technology doesn't work. Hidden Mystic Pymp is responsible for the outcome, but is not being held accountable. Which perpetuates the situation.

Consciously taking responsibility for your subconscious choices and actions and their results isn't fun, but it's what adults do. It's also how to make change happen regardless. And that is what we are after.

I am working on this issue so we can make it something that gets dealt with automatically and subconsciously, but until and unless I figure this out... you still have to take personal responsibility for your choices, and your actions, and your results - even if they are subconscious - because otherwise you have no hope of making a change that gets you the results you want.

I'm not blaming you. I'm not saying you're at fault. I am telling you the facts... and sometimes, them's not fun to hear. But they are the facts. And if you want to help yourself get the results while I try to figure out how to automate the process... you have to do what I told you needed to be done.

You're getting worse results because some part of you is giving less cooperation.

(02-11-2017, 08:00 PM)RTBoss Wrote: Perhaps, since the script is immensely more dense with many facets, you are actually getting benefits in areas that you aren't attributing to the program.

For instance, you said you did speed dating despite your anxiety. Perhaps the healing and clearing led you to that.

I just think there are a lot of little hurdles many of us would have to get through before the end goal scripting can execute fully, hence striking out. You're just not there yet.

I've seen mention of partial execution of the script causing an imbalance in the aura being projected, this could be part of the issue as well.

I think where we see others getting results where some don't is, they just don't have issues in those areas.

My issues are different than others. For instance, I found myself going out to have a few drinks in a venue I've never found myself before, with a friend who just "appeared" back into my life as soon as I started running V2.5. We've only hung out more and more since V3.0.1. The only thing I did that night was put myself in the vicinity of women sitting at the bar. They did everything else. They qualified themselves, switched the topic to sex, told me their hobbies, told me they thought I was cute, told me how much money they make, showed me pictures in their bathing suits and underwear...All I had to do was make a simple suggestive comment (which I had a hard time not making), and it would have been on. But, my "hang up," is fear of destroying my family at home. So...I went home.

I really think this program is going to get everyone who wants to "get there," to get there. But with all the scripting and facets of the program to get there and really get things poppin' - the kind of results that seem like magic, like a different reality, like a whole life you've never imagined - well, that's going to take some time and, like Shannon said, cooperation.

He's going to get this all figured out. Mark my words.