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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - AlphaMind - 09-30-2015 Btw, Shannon, do write BASE description after finishing BASE's update. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - dissonance - 09-30-2015 Hey Shannon, how do you know that the phrases in the subliminals aren't being sped up too fast? I'm sure you know what samples are and sample rate etc. I'm imagining that there comes a point where if it is fast enough, the words would be squeezed into fewer samples, and then eventually the phrases would become incoherent, because they are "blocky". What I mean is like pretend you squeeze a digital image smaller and smaller, it will eventually become proportionally incomprehensible if you zoom in on the image to view it (like the subconscious would to "hear" the sped-up phrases in subs), because pixels can only be so small. Do you know what I mean by all this? RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Dzemoo - 09-30-2015 (09-30-2015, 08:06 PM)dissonance Wrote: Hey Shannon, how do you know that the phrases in the subliminals aren't being sped up too fast? I'm sure you know what samples are and sample rate etc. I'm imagining that there comes a point where if it is fast enough, the words would be squeezed into fewer samples, and then eventually the phrases would become incoherent, because they are "blocky". What I mean is like pretend you squeeze a digital image smaller and smaller, it will eventually become proportionally incomprehensible if you zoom in on the image to view it (like the subconscious would to "hear" the sped-up phrases in subs), because pixels can only be so small. Do you know what I mean by all this? That are also my concerns RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Catman - 09-30-2015 (09-30-2015, 08:06 PM)dissonance Wrote: Hey Shannon, how do you know that the phrases in the subliminals aren't being sped up too fast? I'm sure you know what samples are and sample rate etc. I'm imagining that there comes a point where if it is fast enough, the words would be squeezed into fewer samples, and then eventually the phrases would become incoherent, because they are "blocky". What I mean is like pretend you squeeze a digital image smaller and smaller, it will eventually become proportionally incomprehensible if you zoom in on the image to view it (like the subconscious would to "hear" the sped-up phrases in subs), because pixels can only be so small. Do you know what I mean by all this? The subs are tested with predictive models beforehand. So, if that was true, the testing would make it obvious that it's too much data, too fast to process accurately and would result in poor results. I wouldn't worry about such a thing in this case ![]() RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 10-01-2015 (09-30-2015, 11:20 PM)CatMan Wrote:(09-30-2015, 08:06 PM)dissonance Wrote: Hey Shannon, how do you know that the phrases in the subliminals aren't being sped up too fast? I'm sure you know what samples are and sample rate etc. I'm imagining that there comes a point where if it is fast enough, the words would be squeezed into fewer samples, and then eventually the phrases would become incoherent, because they are "blocky". What I mean is like pretend you squeeze a digital image smaller and smaller, it will eventually become proportionally incomprehensible if you zoom in on the image to view it (like the subconscious would to "hear" the sped-up phrases in subs), because pixels can only be so small. Do you know what I mean by all this? To answer the first quote: I have developed a way to prevent that from happening, no matter how many words I put in the script. The methods I use ensure that the compression rate is always within a specific range which is both maximal and optimal. Beyond that I can't say how I do it, but rest assured. You will never have to worry about that. Which brings me to the answer to the second quote. Not only do I use predictive models, I do self testing and Tier 2 and 3 testing, so I see first hand whether it works and how well. But yes, the predictive models allow me to sift through a huge amount of options before ever building a script and have a very, very high confidence in being right. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 10-01-2015 Okay, so working on Stage 6 today, and with luck, maybe even start on Stage 7. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Dubls - 10-01-2015 (09-30-2015, 04:16 AM)CatMan Wrote: I really hope he doesn't put some limiter or whatever on it, making it silent for a portion of the track. If it's so powerful and that exhausting, the people who go against the rules will do it once, then realise it's stupid and stop. I don't like the idea of listening to my sub and being as diligent as I am, only to be inadvertently listening to silence the whole time. Not cool. Let us ration our listening time ourselves, we're all adults. Responsibility must be weighed against liability. (09-30-2015, 04:16 AM)CatMan Wrote: Bring on SM4 lol. I seem to need it. Would be awesome if SM4 is a thing when I'm ready to do SM. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Dubls - 10-01-2015 (09-30-2015, 01:04 PM)waahbeta Wrote: 6G more sounds at accomplishing PE which the earlier versions couldn't (although they did but with expections). So cheers for the guys who wanted it. OPE 6G would be crazy. I hope Shannon makes it sooner than he did OPE 5G. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Broski - 10-01-2015 Shannon, have you done any testing with 6G on people with extremely stubborn and resistant personality types? Im curious with how powerful 6G is sounding if it is able to overcome even the most resilient of individuals. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Achiever - 10-02-2015 1.Shannon,how much time until you start producing the 6-stagers? The magnets? Will you first build the Alpha set, or the Magnets? 2.From what you say I conclude 6G will be incredibly efficient in overcoming resistance and being long term programming.Is that so? 3 hours maximum listening a day? That must be powerful,many,many times more powerful than 5G . RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shawn - 10-02-2015 Guys, let Shannon do the research and development first ![]() RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - AriGold - 10-02-2015 The only thing that gets you guys stop the discussion about 6G is if Shannon were to write about a discovery of 7G. My opinion may be harsh, but: Shut up, use the products that are available (according to the instructions of course) and if it doesn't bring you to where you want to be, just use them longer, while you wait for 6G. You can wait for 6G and wish for it to be the solution to all your problems or you could start your progress today with what is available. Choose wisely (according to your real goals not just the "nice to have" ones) and be patient. Work on yourself and your progress. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 10-05-2015 (10-01-2015, 02:59 PM)Broski Wrote: Shannon, have you done any testing with 6G on people with extremely stubborn and resistant personality types? Im curious with how powerful 6G is sounding if it is able to overcome even the most resilient of individuals. I am constantly seeking such personality types for observation and experimentation. It's not always easy to get them to agree to help, but sometimes they will. The issues that I have encountered and uncovered when I have had the assistance of such individuals have been overcome, one by one, and every experiment shows me new things to work on. But the prototype uses a technology that is so advanced that it actually makes it challenging for me to determine what needs work. That technology is something like a heat seeking missile which only targets those people who have the right qualities. This on the one hand allows me to selectively enhance the impact for specific personality types (highly resistant, etc.) but also makes it hard for me to know when I have an issue that needs to be worked on. That's part of why this is taking so long to develop. It's like trying to find a needle in a haystack sometimes. It's not really a matter of "overcoming" resistance. It's a matter of finding a way to get people to agree to cooperate without forcing it on them. There turn out to be a lot of considerations which have to be addressed when getting someone to "unlock" themselves for cooperation like that, and I have to basically find them all in the proverbial dark. My testers are always giving me clues and hints, and they've gotten to know and laugh at "that look" when I discover one based on something they said or did. But I'm not trying to break people, force people, or "overcome" their will. I'm trying to present the goal in such a way that they understand it to be desirable in such a manner that they choose to cooperate and allow themselves to achieve it. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 10-05-2015 (10-02-2015, 12:53 AM)Achiever Wrote: 1.Shannon,how much time until you start producing the 6-stagers? The magnets? Will you first build the Alpha set, or the Magnets? 1. I'm producing 6 stagers now. Been producing magnets for a while. Oh, you mean in 6G. I don't even know yet if 6 stagers are possible in 6G, and I also don't know if 6 stages is even necessary given the new approach. So as usal: I don't yet know. 2. Again, I'm not trying to overcome resistance (connotations of power struggle and forcible brainwashing); I'm trying to get people to willingly and consentingly cooperate with and execute the instruction set for their own benefit towards achieving the goal of the program. I don't yet know how effective it will be for long term programming, since my efforts so far have been focused in the direction of "as fast as possible" impact, which is primarily state shifting. State shifting will not be suitable in itself for long term programming because state must normalize again for the brain to function optimally. This is part of why I am trying to design the 6G prototypes to be short term use per day, 1-3 hours, instead of 8-16 hours+. I want the benefits of state shifting, and to use that benefit to "launch" the long term programming to become a self-sustaining, self executing subconscious program that loads and runs in the background while you do whatever else. The last several experiments I have done have shown me that an hour of exposure to the current model per day is enough to mentally exhaust people quickly and put them down for sleep much sooner than normal. They also tend to sleep for 9 to 14 hours at a time after that exposure. Sometimes I can counteract that with the experimental awakener I have been testing, but eventually that will also make me tired because it requires mental energy to run too. So there's still work to be done to more efficiently execute, achieve the goal and not exhaust the user. I haven't been able to use it for more than 3-4 hours a day for this reason. In one experiment I did, I played it for 45 minutes at approximately -75 dB and it exhausted me so much that I only got a couple hours of work done that day before having to sleep. Interestingly, there seem to be three volume levels at which the efficiency peaks, and that's the approximate volume of one of them. The key to making 6G more powerful than 5G is of course a secret, but it appears likely that I know how to make the power equal to whatever level a person's mental energy reserves will allow at this point. I've actually begun wondering if there is not some way I could get people to draw on some sort of positive harmless energy source within their environment to help power this. Maybe there is some sort of energy field we don't yet know about, or maybe we are capable of absorbing energy and transmuting it for use in other ways, which we don't yet know about. I'll be testing that to see if I can make it work. Currently, I can get results with 6G that I would have laughed at you if you told me I'd be getting a year or two ago. But isn't that what I said a year or two ago? Given that I am reaching the limits of what a brain has energy to accomplish, though, I strongly suspect this may be the end of the line for development in empowering subliminals. If I can make them do what I am trying to make them do, it would not be necessary to increase power anymore. Then again, I also have reason to suspect that some sort of development will continue taking place for a long time. Again... maybe there are new vistas awaiting us that we don't even know exist yet. Who knows? This is new ground that humans have probably never touched on before. Whatever the case, we live in very exciting times indeed. |