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RE: Who do you love - DMSI 3.3.2 Jandom Rusings - Have at ye - 12-07-2019
By the by, I've been meaning to write something I've come up using creepy uncle Lacan and my experiences for some time now, but I don't think I'll be going into too much detail (this would require a lengthy essay, if not a whole book, actually). But - the facts that fears, traumas or whatevers are coming to the forefront is not in itself a bad thing, but only if approached correctly.
Now, creepy uncle Lacan has a very mechanistic view of the unconscious even though it may not seem like it when you at first read him (I guess he *could have* just gone out and described the mechanisms explicitly, but nobody would have believed him at the time anyway; probably few would believe him even nowadays, I mean, he died in like, 1981, or so, so it's all still pretty fresh
). So, there's this one aspect of it that I would call the Subject - the Other relation. Without going into details on the entire shebang, it would appear that the subject only emerges and defines itself relatively towards an Other of some sort (we could go all hippy relativity and just call the Other "an Observer", and the Subject "the Observed", I guess). If there were no Other, there would be no need for the Subject to even come into existence. Now, in the situation of psychoanalysis, creepy uncle Lacan claims that the entire deal is about getting the analysand to express himself Subjectively, and getting the analyst to serve as a friendly Other who would help observe and analyze WTF.But - and here's the trick - I believe this only serves as a prelude to self-analysis, in which the analysand gets his mind going and *begins to observe his subjectivity* on their own, becoming, at the same time the Subject and the Other - the Observer and the Observed at the same time - and this is when change can occur. So when shitty stuff comes up, you can start observing what comes up within your Subjectivity, become the Other in the particular thing that's come up, and thus attempt to redefine yourself as a Subject.
So that's what I've been trying to do lately when anything nasty and/or dumb appears to come up.
I guess that's what hippy wizards mean when they say "become a co-creator" and such.
RE: Who do you love - DMSI 3.3.2 Jandom Rusings - Mystic Pymp - 12-07-2019
(12-07-2019, 03:26 PM)Have at ye Wrote: By the by, I've been meaning to write something I've come up using creepy uncle Lacan and my experiences for some time now, but I don't think I'll be going into too much detail (this would require a lengthy essay, if not a whole book, actually). But - the facts that fears, traumas or whatevers are coming to the forefront is not in itself a bad thing, but only if approached correctly.
Now, creepy uncle Lacan has a very mechanistic view of the unconscious even though it may not seem like it when you at first read him (I guess he *could have* just gone out and described the mechanisms explicitly, but nobody would have believed him at the time anyway; probably few would believe him even nowadays, I mean, he died in like, 1981, or so, so it's all still pretty fresh
But - and here's the trick - I believe this only serves as a prelude to self-analysis, in which the analysand gets his mind going and *begins to observe his subjectivity* on their own, becoming, at the same time the Subject and the Other - the Observer and the Observed at the same time - and this is when change can occur. So when shitty stuff comes up, you can start observing what comes up within your Subjectivity, become the Other in the particular thing that's come up, and thus attempt to redefine yourself as a Subject.
So that's what I've been trying to do lately when anything nasty and/or dumb appears to come up.
I guess that's what hippy wizards mean when they say "become a co-creator" and such.
That's actually very interesting. I might say I was trying to do something like this - to look outside-in instead of inside-out - with mixed successes. But anyway thanks for the post, I need to do some research about the "Uncle Lacan"
RE: Who do you love - DMSI 3.3.2 Jandom Rusings - Have at ye - 12-07-2019
"Creepy uncle"!
Perhaps try "How to read Lacan" by Slavoj Zizek, it's short, fairly amusing and pretty to the point as a general overview. Then you can go from there and start reading Lacan himself, most if not all of his stuff should be available in English translation by now (less so in Polish, but we're slowly getting there
).
RE: Who do you love - DMSI 3.3.2 Jandom Rusings - Have at ye - 12-07-2019
BTW., more on that point, since it's an unconscious mechanism, this Subject - Other thing, "there is no Other", as in "there is no spoon". Technically, all "the Others" are, like, a relative interpretation based upon a pretty wonky "filter" of some sort, lol.
Also, the entire possibility of differentiation into "subject" and "the other", and how this arises, is in itself a traumatic experience, apparently. A rupture in a continuity.
RE: Who do you love - DMSI 3.3.2 Jandom Rusings - Have at ye - 12-08-2019
Just noticed something in the mirror today, lol. Now, I've always seen and been told that when I get stage make-up on, getting my eyelashes done (on several occasions I even got eyelash extensions
) would make me look totally fabulous, sister! Thing is, what I've noticed is that my lashes now look as if they'd been done made up even without makeup; same with eyebrows, they look darker and more even without make-up correction, lol.I'm fabulous, sister!
As to other physical effects (decided to have a look, seeing as I was busy admiring myself already
), physical fitness and attractiveness is continuing to improve. Still got some flab around the lower midsection and on my arse, but it's coming off steadily, so I guess I just gotta keep doing what I'm doing and be fab.
RE: Who do you love - DMSI 3.3.2 Jandom Rusings - Have at ye - 12-08-2019
Heh. So I chanced upon a youtube vid made by a proper, sweet and sexy "mommy" (she has sweet doe eyes
) that actually would help to explain, in many ways, that entire "sweet little aristocrat" debacle and why I found her so attractive despite all my instincts saying "this is gonna be foxy psychotherapist all over again, *they're like friggin' clones, man!*", and me even consciously acting on what I've noticed to be very, very... off about that woman, and *still feeling attracted to her*, lol. And also why I'd get serious PTSD-like symptoms and paranoia when she'd start spinning, lol.(I'm going to spare you my Freudo-Lacanian take on the matter... *this time*
)(CatMan, if you're reading this, check out that girl's videos on complex PTSD as well. EDJUMACATE THYSELF!
)Also, I believe that was the main reason for my resistance to DMSIng and perhaps even FRMing in this particular case.
a) When I'm getting anxious/paranoid, I *know that's something's up and I've never been wrong yet*. It's a defence mechanism, and it has not failed me as of yet. Trouble is, it's a shitty way to live. I'm fully capable of discernment absent the paranoia, you know, seeing as *I actually did it* in this particular case, as well as several other cases in which I did not find the woman in question this attractive [EDIT: nor as effective an operator, lol] (where, granted, it was way easier to do).
b) DMSI (in the previous versions, at least, I'm not quite so sure about this one) is kinda primed at manifesting potential sexual partners that are, IIRC, going to "make you the most happy" by sexing them up, based on subconscious criteria. Trouble is - and I guess that's the crux of the issue - that what would make particular parts of my subconscious "the most happy" IS A TERRIBLE FUCKING IDEA.
c) I guess that's why I'd get extremely sexually attractive obsessive types popping out of the woodwork periodically on the DMSIs. Trouble is, these types are also usually *the most direct and obvious* when they start hitting on you, because they're also usually extremely egocentric and can't take no for an answer. Also, in some cases, they're fucking relentless, man.
d) This resulted in a cycle of execution - WTF is this I don't even - retracting execution out of fear.
e) This can be changed, baby.
RE: Who do you love - DMSI 3.3.2 Jandom Rusings - Shannon - 12-09-2019
DMSI is designed to not "make you the most happy" but to provide you with attraction in kind from those you are sexually attracted to, and encourage them to act on their sexual attraction responses. It's not about making you happy. It's about getting people you want to have sex with, to want to have sex with you.
RE: Who do you love - DMSI 3.3.2 Jandom Rusings - Have at ye - 12-09-2019
(12-09-2019, 05:01 AM)Shannon Wrote: DMSI is designed to not "make you the most happy" but to provide you with attraction in kind from those you are sexually attracted to, and encourage them to act on their sexual attraction responses. It's not about making you happy. It's about getting people you want to have sex with, to want to have sex with you.
Thanks for the clarification.
Funnily enough, back on the versions which had the Anti-Sniper on, the obsessive types were getting sniped anyway as far as I could see. Then again, should such types spontaneously decide to act on their attraction in a non-retarded manner (can't really see it happening right now, though), it's an easily handled situation, given two caveats, I guess: a) get it in writing, explicitly, b) if your jurisdiction allows for "single party consent" audio/visual recording, then record the proceedings just in case (mine does).
RE: Who do you love - DMSI 3.3.2 Jandom Rusings - Have at ye - 12-10-2019
Okay, so now, officialy, from this point on this journal is going to qualify as "non-legit user", or whatever the term was. Because apart from all the extracurricular stuff I've been doing, I will now be also running the DRS while DMSI has the NDRS. This is a "do not try this at home, kids" type of situation, and I would recommend everyone to follow instructions for any subliminal program they're using.
But, here's how this came about:
So, I was pondering whether to maybe start using the DRS whenever I believe it to be useful for some time now. Today, I give this pondering another spin.
One part of me was very much "do it".
Another part of me was kinda wishy-washy about the whole thing and kinda against it.
And then I noticed which opinion was coming from which part of my psyche...
...
Oh.
I'm so done being a fucking martyr.
So, I purchased the DRS, ran it for the two prescribed loops, and the effects were astounding. I now, for the very first time, *actually feel safe to execute DMSI*.
My thinking became very sharp and clear. My mood skyrocketed. I now feel as if I had just won a battle of some sort. It's glorious.
I also know what's coming exactly and from whom and in what quantities and with what intensity.
This... this is going to smart.
Hold on to your hats, beautiful friends, things are about to get... interesting.
Also, Monsieur Shannon, chapeau bas and thank you for making these programs.
RE: Who do you love - DMSI 3.3.2 Jandom Rusings - lano1106 - 12-10-2019
lucky you.... If Shannon builds DMSI without a shield built-in, DRS+DMSI is definitely something that I would want to play with...
RE: Who do you love - DMSI 3.3.2 Jandom Rusings - Have at ye - 12-10-2019
Yup.
I'm not kidding. It's been circa 5 hours since I did the DRS loops. I am now experiencing such a feeling of bliss and safety and relief I kinda feel like crying out of joy.
RE: Who do you love - DMSI 3.3.2 Jandom Rusings - Yous - 12-10-2019
(12-10-2019, 01:14 PM)Have at ye Wrote: Yup.
I'm not kidding. It's been circa 5 hours since I did the DRS loops. I am now experiencing such a feeling of bliss and safety and relief I kinda feel like crying out of joy.
HI,
If DMSI has NDRS witch is difference using DSR? You are protected anyway, the difference is that the negativy is proyected to the person that has the negativity against you, but the effect on you should be pretty the same (maybe that you could feel from who the shield is protecting you against...)
RE: Who do you love - DMSI 3.3.2 Jandom Rusings - Have at ye - 12-10-2019
(12-10-2019, 02:42 PM)Yous Wrote:(12-10-2019, 01:14 PM)Have at ye Wrote: Yup.
I'm not kidding. It's been circa 5 hours since I did the DRS loops. I am now experiencing such a feeling of bliss and safety and relief I kinda feel like crying out of joy.
HI,
If DMSI has NDRS witch is difference using DSR? You are protected anyway, the difference is that the negativy is proyected to the person that has the negativity against you, but the effect on you should be pretty the same (maybe that you could feel from who the shield is protecting you against...)
DRS reflects it right back to the sender in "real time". NDRS reflects it into the air, so to speak. And - even though the new-gen shields are extremely powerful, my experiences have taught me that there's a point and intensity that even they can't handle, nor are they 100% proof all the time, I guess. Proximity is also a factor.
And the conclusion I have come to is... unless someone [EDIT: certain types of people, to be specific] gets hit right back with the full extent of what they're doing, they're going to stubbornly keep trying to influence you negatively anyway.
With the DRS, they're either going to quickly learn to quit it or they're going to break. But that's on them.
Like, seriously, I am not a vengeful person, or at least try not to be, but this must end.
RE: Who do you love - DMSI 3.3.2 Jandom Rusings - Yous - 12-10-2019
(12-10-2019, 02:59 PM)Have at ye Wrote:(12-10-2019, 02:42 PM)Yous Wrote:(12-10-2019, 01:14 PM)Have at ye Wrote: Yup.
I'm not kidding. It's been circa 5 hours since I did the DRS loops. I am now experiencing such a feeling of bliss and safety and relief I kinda feel like crying out of joy.
HI,
If DMSI has NDRS witch is difference using DSR? You are protected anyway, the difference is that the negativy is proyected to the person that has the negativity against you, but the effect on you should be pretty the same (maybe that you could feel from who the shield is protecting you against...)
DRS reflects it right back to the sender in "real time". NDRS reflects it into the air, so to speak. And - even though the new-gen shields are extremely powerful, my experiences have taught me that there's a point and intensity that even they can't handle, nor are they 100% proof all the time, I guess. Proximity is also a factor.
And the conclusion I have come to is... unless someone [EDIT: certain types of people, to be specific] gets hit right back with the full extent of what they're doing, they're going to stubbornly keep trying to influence you negatively anyway.
With the DRS, they're either going to quickly learn to quit it or they're going to break. But that's on them.
Like, seriously, I am not a vengeful person, or at least try not to be, but this must end.
It has sense if they don´t stop trying and this fact could finally affect you. Thanks.