(07-10-2016, 07:49 PM)wolverine_i_am Wrote:

(07-10-2016, 03:36 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-10-2016, 03:26 PM)chaosvrgn Wrote: I haven't been keeping up a lot with AOSI / MSI news since I couldn't run it, but is MSI 2.2 coming out before Wednesday?

If so, I'll take one for the home team, run two loops (all I'm willing to risk, as I'm still running AM6 and don't want to kill it completely) and see what happens on my date that night. I shine in one-on-one situations, would love to see how this boosts my game.

I was planning to release it on the 17th, but I might be persuaded to release early to people who didn't use v2.1 and haven't used in a while.

But you'd have to use it for the number of loops I specify.

Any chance you could release it on Friday (15th)? I hadn't listened to it for the last three days anyway, since I had been out and about all weekend. It'll be good to run it on Fri and test it on the weekend. Cause I won't be able to do much with it on Mon, Tues, etc. I would be listening to it at home, but that's about it. We won't know about the immediate effects on the general public if I'm not able to go out to test it straight away. Thanks for considering, Shannon.

Same here. But I don't know if it isn't too much work to release v2.2 to specific users earlier than to the others.

Well since I have to work on it again, it will now be released when I am finished.

We can still say it is likely to be released on the 17th at the latest, though.

But I am going to transplant some of the scripting from E2 and adjust it for this purpose, and then balance the program again.

I am also going to verify the goal phrasing scripting.

I estimate this will take me a day to do, if things go well.

(07-11-2016, 12:35 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-11-2016, 12:11 AM)CatMan Wrote:

(07-10-2016, 11:54 PM)Shannon Wrote: I think it would be best if you waited until I do create version 3 before you use it not only for the extra time on E2 but because I'm going to try to make version 3 deals specifically with the sort of reasons why you and guys like you have trouble with women and of course the same thing for women with guys. I think version 3 would be much more effective for you for that reason. I don't know how many months away it's going to be that will depend on how long it takes me to do the other stuff in the meantime and build it of course but I think that's the wisest course of action for you.

Oh?

I purchased this program already before as I promised.

It'd be a shame to not use it. I was thinking that I'd try 2.2 perhaps when it debuts. I've seen some changes in the area of women, and would like a more focused approach to get me making progress. I've had decreased motivation to write in my journal for awhile, and I'm told that's typical of users on this program.

Also, I understand that you have other things on the go, and potentially it can be several months before V3 debuts. And of course, the free upgrades only cover 2.x, so I'd be buying the program twice. Which I'd have no trouble with, as long as I used both. This news of V3 coming soonish is a bit of a surprise. A good one overall of course. I guess it goes to show how well R&D is progressing, which is amazing news for us all.

That is true, I forgot you bought it already. Alright, then, I'll add that module to 2.2 for you so you can use 2.2 and get the most out of what you paid for.

Well that's awesome, I would also benefit from that module

(07-10-2016, 08:04 AM)dissonance Wrote: Also what's the purpose of the 7 day break exactly? I know it has to do with the state shifting, but why does there need a break specifically required by the state shifting?

(07-10-2016, 08:11 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote: The purpose of the 7 day break is to allow your mind to dissolve the v2.1 programming. This way you start fresh with the new set of instructions that you will be getting from v2.2.

http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-7693-p...#pid120567

(07-11-2016, 12:02 AM)Tobi Wrote: if we ran 2.2 dmsi without the seven day gap would that cause a lot of problems?

(07-11-2016, 12:05 AM)Shannon Wrote: There will be a period of time during which 2.1 is directly contradicting 2.2 and neither will work well or fully. Some things are the same between them, but not everything. You're going to do better to wait.

From E2, I have added two modules (and adjusted them to aim at the goals of DMSI 2.2):

1. Self forgiveness, and forgiveness of others, let go of the past and move on from it

This one is aimed at getting rid of any hate, anger, grudges, etc. you may have that is aimed at a particular gender in general, which would otherwise prevent you from achieving maximum possible success with the program.

2. Healing & Regenerating.

This one is aimed at healing and regenerating yourself mentally, emotionally and sexually in all of the ways you need to heal and regenerate in order to get maximum success from the program. Basically aiming at clearing out past traumas that might otherwise prevent success.

(07-11-2016, 04:12 AM)Shannon Wrote: 2. Healing & Regenerating.

This one is aimed at healing and regenerating yourself mentally, emotionally and sexually in all of the ways you need to heal and regenerate in order to get maximum success from the program. Basically aiming at clearing out past traumas that might otherwise prevent success.

I was about to come in and ask if this could be put into v 2.2 and I see you're already a step ahead. Great news, I can't wait for this one now.

(07-11-2016, 04:12 AM)Shannon Wrote: 1. Self forgiveness, and forgiveness of others, let go of the past and move on from it

This one is aimed at getting rid of any hate, anger, grudges, etc. you may have that is aimed at a particular gender in general, which would otherwise prevent you from achieving maximum possible success with the program.

Is this such a good idea Shannon? I'm all for forgiveness, but if someone has wronged you and you forgive them without them making it up to you, you are essentially becoming a door mat are you not?

Not to mention it's kind of like putting their needs before your own.

(07-11-2016, 04:32 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(07-11-2016, 04:12 AM)Shannon Wrote: 1. Self forgiveness, and forgiveness of others, let go of the past and move on from it

This one is aimed at getting rid of any hate, anger, grudges, etc. you may have that is aimed at a particular gender in general, which would otherwise prevent you from achieving maximum possible success with the program.

Is this such a good idea Shannon? I'm all for forgiveness, but if someone has wronged you and you forgive them without them making it up to you, you are essentially becoming a door mat are you not?

Not to mention it's kind of like putting their needs before your own.

It is a good idea. You are able to blow them off, get whatever incident that is playing over and over in your mind to stop so you can move on with your life.

You don't necessarily have to forgive them aloud. It can be a silent forgiveness. You will have inner peace/peace of mind from this module.

(07-11-2016, 04:37 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote:

(07-11-2016, 04:32 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(07-11-2016, 04:12 AM)Shannon Wrote: 1. Self forgiveness, and forgiveness of others, let go of the past and move on from it

This one is aimed at getting rid of any hate, anger, grudges, etc. you may have that is aimed at a particular gender in general, which would otherwise prevent you from achieving maximum possible success with the program.

Is this such a good idea Shannon? I'm all for forgiveness, but if someone has wronged you and you forgive them without them making it up to you, you are essentially becoming a door mat are you not?

Not to mention it's kind of like putting their needs before your own.

It is a good idea. You are able to blow them off, get whatever incident that is playing over and over in your mind to stop so you can move on with your life.

Yeah that's great, except when it happens again because someone senses that you're the type to forgive instead of stand up for yourself.

(07-11-2016, 04:32 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(07-11-2016, 04:12 AM)Shannon Wrote: 1. Self forgiveness, and forgiveness of others, let go of the past and move on from it

This one is aimed at getting rid of any hate, anger, grudges, etc. you may have that is aimed at a particular gender in general, which would otherwise prevent you from achieving maximum possible success with the program.

Is this such a good idea Shannon? I'm all for forgiveness, but if someone has wronged you and you forgive them without them making it up to you, you are essentially becoming a door mat are you not?

Not to mention it's kind of like putting their needs before your own.

The idea is that since anger, hate and grudges are self destructive, you get yourself to the point that you can let go of them and move on with your life.

It's not intended to be "forgive, lay down and repeat getting mistreated" BS. It's not telling you to keep doing the same thing or let people walk on you. It's telling you, "Here is a blockage for achieving the goals of this program, let's do what you need to do to get past it and enjoy success."

In other words, you can do what you like, but if the program is going to succeed in achieving it's goals, you need to let go of the things that caused the blockages and take down the walls that you've built that are going to prevent success in achieving the goals of the program.

If holding a grudge, being angry at others or hating others is more important to you than achieving the goals of the program, definitely don't use it.

Anger and hate are self destructive. They are also self limiting. They drain energy unnecessarily, limit you unnecessarily and act like acid for your emotions. Some people are addicted to them because they feel "justified" feeling them. You can be "justified" all day long, but justified doesn't change the limitations, drain and corrosive effects they have on YOU, while they do NOTHING to the people you are angry with or hate.

Growing past letting yourself be used or taken advantage of is not prevented by the programming. It just frees you to succeed where you would not otherwise have been able to. Anyone with common sense is going to learn how not to let people treat them, even if they're not holding a grudge, anger or hate.

(07-11-2016, 04:46 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(07-11-2016, 04:37 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote:

(07-11-2016, 04:32 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(07-11-2016, 04:12 AM)Shannon Wrote: 1. Self forgiveness, and forgiveness of others, let go of the past and move on from it

This one is aimed at getting rid of any hate, anger, grudges, etc. you may have that is aimed at a particular gender in general, which would otherwise prevent you from achieving maximum possible success with the program.

Is this such a good idea Shannon? I'm all for forgiveness, but if someone has wronged you and you forgive them without them making it up to you, you are essentially becoming a door mat are you not?

Not to mention it's kind of like putting their needs before your own.

It is a good idea. You are able to blow them off, get whatever incident that is playing over and over in your mind to stop so you can move on with your life.

You don't necessarily have to forgive them aloud. It can be a silent forgiveness. You will have inner peace/peace of mind from this module.

Yeah that's great, except when it happens again because someone senses that you're the type to forgive instead of stand up for yourself.

I'm sure you have witnessed people stand up for themselves and still give forgiveness. I believe (can't prove it) this module will help someone stand up for themselves and blow off the offender. Again, helping them to move on with their life.

(07-11-2016, 04:50 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-11-2016, 04:32 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Is this such a good idea Shannon? I'm all for forgiveness, but if someone has wronged you and you forgive them without them making it up to you, you are essentially becoming a door mat are you not?

Not to mention it's kind of like putting their needs before your own.

The idea is that since anger, hate and grudges are self destructive, you get yourself to the point that you can let go of them and move on with your life.

It's not intended to be "forgive, lay down and repeat getting mistreated" BS. It's not telling you to keep doing the same thing or let people walk on you. It's telling you, "Here is a blockage for achieving the goals of this program, let's do what you need to do to get past it and enjoy success."

In other words, you can do what you like, but if the program is going to succeed in achieving it's goals, you need to let go of the things that caused the blockages and take down the walls that you've built that are going to prevent success in achieving the goals of the program.

If holding a grudge, being angry at others or hating others is more important to you than achieving the goals of the program, definitely don't use it.

Anger and hate are self destructive. They are also self limiting. They drain energy unnecessarily, limit you unnecessarily and act like acid for your emotions. Some people are addicted to them because they feel "justified" feeling them. You can be "justified" all day long, but justified doesn't change the limitations, drain and corrosive effects they have on YOU, while they do NOTHING to the people you are angry with or hate.

Growing past letting yourself be used or taken advantage of is not prevented by the programming. It just frees you to succeed where you would not otherwise have been able to. Anyone with common sense is going to learn how not to let people treat them, even if they're not holding a grudge, anger or hate.

Well I'm in a bit of a bind there since women respond best to me when I let that hatred and anger run freely. :/

In my experience, getting all "lovey dovey" only makes you weaker.

(07-11-2016, 04:54 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote: I'm sure you have witnessed people stand up for themselves and still give forgiveness. I believe (can't prove it) this module will help someone stand up for themselves and blow off the offender. Again, helping them to move on with their life.

Well sure, for small things. I stood up for myself a few times in the last few weeks and once the boundary was accepted, continued on as if nothing had happened. But it doesn't mean I'll let someone off the hook again if they show a pattern of such behavior. Especially once we've talked about it.

(07-11-2016, 04:50 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-11-2016, 04:32 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(07-11-2016, 04:12 AM)Shannon Wrote: 1. Self forgiveness, and forgiveness of others, let go of the past and move on from it

This one is aimed at getting rid of any hate, anger, grudges, etc. you may have that is aimed at a particular gender in general, which would otherwise prevent you from achieving maximum possible success with the program.

Is this such a good idea Shannon? I'm all for forgiveness, but if someone has wronged you and you forgive them without them making it up to you, you are essentially becoming a door mat are you not?

Not to mention it's kind of like putting their needs before your own.

The idea is that since anger, hate and grudges are self destructive, you get yourself to the point that you can let go of them and move on with your life.

It's not intended to be "forgive, lay down and repeat getting mistreated" BS. It's not telling you to keep doing the same thing or let people walk on you. It's telling you, "Here is a blockage for achieving the goals of this program, let's do what you need to do to get past it and enjoy success."

In other words, you can do what you like, but if the program is going to succeed in achieving it's goals, you need to let go of the things that caused the blockages and take down the walls that you've built that are going to prevent success in achieving the goals of the program.

If holding a grudge, being angry at others or hating others is more important to you than achieving the goals of the program, definitely don't use it.

Anger and hate are self destructive. They are also self limiting. They drain energy unnecessarily, limit you unnecessarily and act like acid for your emotions. Some people are addicted to them because they feel "justified" feeling them. You can be "justified" all day long, but justified doesn't change the limitations, drain and corrosive effects they have on YOU, while they do NOTHING to the people you are angry with or hate.

Growing past letting yourself be used or taken advantage of is not prevented by the programming. It just frees you to succeed where you would not otherwise have been able to. Anyone with common sense is going to learn how not to let people treat them, even if they're not holding a grudge, anger or hate.

It's a very clever trap. A lot of people never escape it.

(07-10-2016, 11:54 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-10-2016, 11:51 PM)CatMan Wrote:

(07-10-2016, 11:38 PM)Shannon Wrote: I have a laundry list of updates to make to it and improvements as well including new technologies and new things for it to be doing so it definitely will deserve the version 3.0 upgrade status.

Haha, I'm already excited for 3.0.

It sounds like it will be worth the purchase for me, 100%. Fantastic.

I think it would be best if you waited until I do create version 3 before you use it not only for the extra time on E2 but because I'm going to try to make version 3 deals specifically with the sort of reasons why you and guys like you have trouble with women and of course the same thing for women with guys. I think version 3 would be much more effective for you for that reason. I don't know how many months away it's going to be that will depend on how long it takes me to do the other stuff in the meantime and build it of course but I think that's the wisest course of action for you.

Is the reason being inexperience/virginity letting it bring down confidence and/or somehow self-sabotaging action taking? or something related to that? If so, i look forward to this module.

I have this subconscious OCD fear of like what if I'm all sexy and really attractive to this girl, then we get to the bedroom, and I say to her "hey, i've never done this before", what would she think? Or if I don't tell her I'm a virgin, and I end up being shitty in bed or really nervous, and she's like wtf is wrong with this guy he sucks in bed, even though I know I'd be at least decent in bed the first time (I do my "research" lol).

By the way, what would be the most effective at removing these subconscious fears and blocks, caring what other people think, that I just mentioned? AM6? OGSF? or would V2.3 be more effective since it's 5.5G?

And what do you guys think? Is it better to let a girl know I'm a virgin before the sex or no?