I think people just want real results with women and struggle to find the right sub' for that. OP ran UD in the first place for women.
"I will have a better energy being able to attract the women I want easier. ".
And he's going back to DMSI...for women too.
I don't think anyone would waste his time and money just for adrenaline. People are just looking for ways to fix their issues ASAP.
Quote:But at the end of the day I still had anxiety going up to chicks an approaching & I think 5.5g SM or WM or AM would have made my results with women much stronger then DMSI has.
The aura is kinda useless if the women doesn't act upon it, (which in my case even though I noticed people getting affected, they didn't do shit. I rather have no aura but be able to go up to any chick and make them fall in love with me from conversation, versus make allot of chicks attracted but both sides unable to make anything come out of it.
Yeah that's pretty much the problem with DMSI. I read the goal of DMSI is to make the targets act, rather than the user, but I think it's the hardest path. As you said it's useless to get tons of IOI every day if none lead to getting laid.
I did feel more comfortable around girls under DMSI but the fear, shyness and anxiety of approaching them was still there. But well I'm not the one to talk since I only ran it for 24 days.
(08-26-2017, 12:10 PM)Plouf Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah that's pretty much the problem with DMSI. I read the goal of DMSI is to make the targets act, rather than the user, but I think it's the hardest path. As you said it's useless to get tons of IOI every day if none lead to getting laid.
DMSI might reach its goals with future releases with all the energy and reality bending but the things you said are pretty much the reason why I think there should be a rebuild of SM in future, because it builds upon Alpha Male programming and empower the user to do whatever he wants/needs to do instead of waiting for a woman making it happen.
(08-26-2017, 12:34 PM)Mr. Anderson Wrote: [ -> ] (08-26-2017, 12:10 PM)Plouf Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah that's pretty much the problem with DMSI. I read the goal of DMSI is to make the targets act, rather than the user, but I think it's the hardest path. As you said it's useless to get tons of IOI every day if none lead to getting laid.
DMSI might reach its goals with future releases with all the energy and reality bending but the things you said are pretty much the reason why I think there should be a rebuild of SM in future, because it builds upon Alpha Male programming and empower the user to do whatever he wants/needs to do instead of waiting for a woman making it happen.
Exactly!!! SM was amazing man. same with AM, and I only ran 3 stages of SM and I almost had a threesome. I was making out and dancing and licking the boobs of two women at my apartment and at a bar.
I was doing things and saying things that usually I didn't have the balls to do. It was insane. I was so sexy to them because I was alpha and sexual as fuck. DMSI is missing that aspect that SM had. It's great in allot of other ways however thats why I still recommend it.
And yeah I switched from UD because I want a sub that's more exciting, but also because I want a sub that is more specifically targeted and designed for women.
I did want to switch because Shannon is right it kinda gets hard being on the same sub so long, but when I was on Woman Magnet I felt no urge to quit because I felt so good in life at the time socially and well being feeling.
If DMSI was achieving the results it should / probably will in the future, I probably won't switch off it for a long time.
it might be a placebo but Ifeel like UD is still working a bit even though I barely used the program.
I feel my hands are much more clammy and sweaty all the time, my body has been waking up in major sweats last few nights, and my pee is darker allot of the time.
either way, UD is a great sub imo from only 4-5 days of using I can tell, looking forward to the day I use it again, I think I may gift it to my parents and see how it affects them.
(08-26-2017, 11:49 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]A lot of you guys are really here for the adrenaline rush of trying/discovering something new. You also want other benefits, but really, you guys are mostly adrenaline junkies. 
That's why a lot of you jump from sub to sub, and complain when I'm not pumping them out fast enough.
And for that very reason, a sub like UD is going to have some people abandon ship before 3 months, because adrenaline junkies can't get their fix from something as ... well, not exciting, as detoxifying themselves.
That's my theory anyway.
Maybe you need to design a perseverance/patience module for all the subs that have nothing to do with attracting women.
(09-08-2017, 08:12 AM)terry44 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-26-2017, 11:49 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]A lot of you guys are really here for the adrenaline rush of trying/discovering something new. You also want other benefits, but really, you guys are mostly adrenaline junkies. That's why a lot of you jump from sub to sub, and complain when I'm not pumping them out fast enough.
And for that very reason, a sub like UD is going to have some people abandon ship before 3 months, because adrenaline junkies can't get their fix from something as ... well, not exciting, as detoxifying themselves.
That's my theory anyway.
Maybe you need to design a perseverance/patience module for all the subs that have nothing to do with attracting women.
E2 had something designed to keep the user from switching until meeting the goal of the program. That would be useful.