09-01-2017, 12:40 PM
09-02-2017, 02:23 AM
(08-31-2017, 05:22 PM)Duke.Togo Wrote: [ -> ]Day 42
MLS is easily becoming something that I can stay on for a long time. I've really no desire to move onto a new DMSI release. Once DMSI does come out, I may change my mind, but, I want to give MLS a fair shot. I was on DMSI for about 11 months. It was amazing. But MLS, MLS is just much more light hearted, easy going. It's been 42 days and it doesn't even feel like it.
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(08-25-2017, 01:47 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote: [ -> ]Week 5 - Version 3.0 of Maximum Learning Speed - 5.5G
On previous subs, it felt like it took forever to get to 5 weeks. It feels like I started MLS 5.5 yesterday and it's difficult to believe I've been listening to it for 5 weeks.
This is also the first 5.5G sub that I eagerly press the play button. Not sure why I feel that way, I really look forward to listening to it!!
09-04-2017, 10:16 AM
Day 46
Currently listening to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3BlPGoeHkg
September is officially underway for me. I spend every year counting down the days until September ends. This year doesn't feel any different.
46 days into MLS, and I feel a lot of changes happening. The more time I spend on MLS, the more I realize it really is what you want it to be, and what you do on the sub ultimately shifts you into who you want to become.
And I think that's the hardest thing about this sub, at least for me, as I keep running on it. I know who I want to be, the sub is gearing me towards that end goal, but who I want to be is such a departure from who I currently am, there is this lingering internal fight going on.
That's the hardest part of change. Growth is a painful process. Sometimes frightening. This feeling becomes more pronounced the older I get. Time is the one thing that eludes everyone - when you pick a road, it ultimately comes with several types of sacrifices. You change, the world around you changes. And as it is with most decisions, you don't know what the result of your choices are until you look back. Hence, the old cliche, in hindsight it's always 20/20.
I've been focused on work fiercely as of late, and I don't regret that. Things between K and I have cooled off significantly since I stopped using DMSI, and I don't regret that either.
I want to achieve the goals I've set for myself within the next 4 and a half years, slightly before I turn 46. Of course, by the time I reach those goals, I'll probably have another set of goals lined up.
This journal has become more esoteric and philosophical in nature, than my DMSI journals, primarily because MLS is focused more on the work that I am doing and it's very much an internal drive. The successes that I reach from MLS obviously manifest into my professional life, and that becomes difficult to write about for me. Primarily because of the anonymity that I enjoy by being a poster.
However, I do want this journal to be beneficial to the community as a whole, and provide the members of this forum some insight as to what is and isn't possible using MLS, at least as it pertains to me.
As I stated at the beginning of this post, MLS will drive you towards whatever goal you set for yourself. You have to be clear on what it is you want, because once you give it a direction, it becomes the Bugatti of transformation and achievement. It'll take you there in Ludicrous speed (spaceballs reference, not a Tesla reference), bathed in absolute comfort and luxury.
So what are the concrete examples of that in my own life.
One of my goals is to be financially wealthy; not for the sake of the money itself, but specifically what the money allows me to do. While on MLS I have been writing out a grand design for who I want to become.
To be fair, a lot of this pull came while I was still on DMSI, and in my 3.1 Journal, I wrote several times how I want to be free and able to work from anywhere in the world. How I wanted to be on the road again all of the time.
Some of that is starting to manifest itself into my life now. I took it a step further about 12 days ago when I created a Mind Movie for myself, of everything that I wanted. It was 14 minutes, and hundreds of photos that I scoured and found of things that I wanted, including women, and created a video. Images change every two seconds. Some of the pictures are repeated for maximum effect. No words, no music. I listen to my loops and press play on the film.
About two weeks ago I also took on an executive position in a mid-sized financial firm; they manage over 100 billion in assets. The talks for that position started about a week after I started MLS. The position may have been a mixture of both DMSI and MLS. Hence, I think the two subs are synchronistic in many ways. When 3.2 or DMSI final comes out, I think I'll be able to confirm how accurate my assumptions are.
Last week, one of the two startups that I am a partner in, closed 6 million in Series A financing. While I was on DMSI, we had closed an 800k seed run. This particular startup is a biotech firm, so it'll be a few years, and a lot more funding, before the firm can be considered a success or the product does what we think it will.
That being said, it's been an amazing journey, one that I started not long after I began DMSI and continue with MLS.
The other startup is based on Machine Learning and AI. A trending topic right now, but that firm is primarily focused on technology creation. The goal isn't to make a viable product for consumers, rather to be acquired by a larger tech company and have them integrate the technology.
A longer term goal for me, while on MLS, is to start a Hedge Fund. I've been working with a few friends who are physicists and programmers to build a new trading platform for market analysis. This is a recent occurrence that is still heavily in the planning stages and will depend greatly on how things turn out with a neural network platform that we have been prototyping.
Beyond these things, I have dreams where I am working, planning, and optimizing the key areas I need to focus on. I literally have had work like dreams a few nights a week over the past two weeks. And when it's not related to work, the dreams tend to be highly sexual in nature. Sometimes I get a double whammy of both in a single night.
My confidence is at another level, completely different from what it was while I was on DMSI. Most days I don't feel any kind of emotion at all - I'm just very level set. Other times I will get fits of rage, but most of that is related to personal interactions where people close to me say something absolutely stupid to me. That tends to subside and I go back to this non-emotional state.
I shouldn't say I'm not emotional, that isn't correct. I'm very even keeled. That's more accurate. I'm not apathetic, I am optimized. My energy doesn't like to be used up in situations that require a lot of emotional interaction. That gets draining for me, especially when I know or feel I know, what's going to come next. Talking for the sake of talking isn't really my thing these days.
That's not to say that I wouldn't help someone who is asking for advice. That's different. But there are just people, mostly women I know to be honest, that just want to talk for the sake of talking. They aren't interested in a solution, they just need to get something off their chest. Those interactions get really draining for me.
This might be why I don't deal with many women these days. I'm stretched thin as it is.
I'm also becoming more careful of what I watch on my downtime. Again, MLS absorbs a lot of information. Case in point, I watched Narcos Season 3 - it wasn't as good as the first two seasons - but as I watch it, I find myself monitoring the behavior and ultimate downfall based on the decisions the Cali Cartel leaders made. I then begin to think about how I would do it differently if I ran a criminal enterprise. At some point all this thought was leading me down a slippery slope and I seriously had to take a step back.
This again, is the power of MLS. It will take you wherever you go, so whatever you feel or notice more of yourself, the more amplified those characteristics of yourself become. This is both your positive or negative characteristics.
This is why I have that grand design document. I read that everyday, to keep me focused on my long term goal. The mind movie also keeps me focused. It helps reinforce the things that I want. It keeps my mind on track.
I'm only 46 days into MLS now. Shannon mentioned that to get the full benefit of MLS, you need to be on it for at least a year, and I realize how true his words are. MLS isn't a quick fix. 46 days in, I feel like I just got in the car and buckled up. I haven't even started the engine yet, let alone left the parking lot and got on the track.
It will take time. It requires a focus on your goals. It requires constant feedback on the direction you want to go. More importantly, it requires patience with yourself as you go through the different phases.
Stepping into MLS, I feel like I'm in the pupa stage right now, and will be for many more months to come. The question I battle with myself is, do I give myself 6 months on this before switching to a 3 month run of DMSI, or do I stay the year.
It's a serious question with a serious debate that I don't have an answer for currently.
Thankfully, it's not a question I need to answer today.
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Post Edited to articulate some of my thoughts and correct some of my statements. I usually don't proof before I post, and tend to read after I post to edit - this way I make sure I get my thoughts out. Otherwise, I sometimes will not post what it is that I wanted to say, and that works against me.
Currently listening to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3BlPGoeHkg
September is officially underway for me. I spend every year counting down the days until September ends. This year doesn't feel any different.
46 days into MLS, and I feel a lot of changes happening. The more time I spend on MLS, the more I realize it really is what you want it to be, and what you do on the sub ultimately shifts you into who you want to become.
And I think that's the hardest thing about this sub, at least for me, as I keep running on it. I know who I want to be, the sub is gearing me towards that end goal, but who I want to be is such a departure from who I currently am, there is this lingering internal fight going on.
That's the hardest part of change. Growth is a painful process. Sometimes frightening. This feeling becomes more pronounced the older I get. Time is the one thing that eludes everyone - when you pick a road, it ultimately comes with several types of sacrifices. You change, the world around you changes. And as it is with most decisions, you don't know what the result of your choices are until you look back. Hence, the old cliche, in hindsight it's always 20/20.
I've been focused on work fiercely as of late, and I don't regret that. Things between K and I have cooled off significantly since I stopped using DMSI, and I don't regret that either.
I want to achieve the goals I've set for myself within the next 4 and a half years, slightly before I turn 46. Of course, by the time I reach those goals, I'll probably have another set of goals lined up.
This journal has become more esoteric and philosophical in nature, than my DMSI journals, primarily because MLS is focused more on the work that I am doing and it's very much an internal drive. The successes that I reach from MLS obviously manifest into my professional life, and that becomes difficult to write about for me. Primarily because of the anonymity that I enjoy by being a poster.
However, I do want this journal to be beneficial to the community as a whole, and provide the members of this forum some insight as to what is and isn't possible using MLS, at least as it pertains to me.
As I stated at the beginning of this post, MLS will drive you towards whatever goal you set for yourself. You have to be clear on what it is you want, because once you give it a direction, it becomes the Bugatti of transformation and achievement. It'll take you there in Ludicrous speed (spaceballs reference, not a Tesla reference), bathed in absolute comfort and luxury.
So what are the concrete examples of that in my own life.
One of my goals is to be financially wealthy; not for the sake of the money itself, but specifically what the money allows me to do. While on MLS I have been writing out a grand design for who I want to become.
To be fair, a lot of this pull came while I was still on DMSI, and in my 3.1 Journal, I wrote several times how I want to be free and able to work from anywhere in the world. How I wanted to be on the road again all of the time.
Some of that is starting to manifest itself into my life now. I took it a step further about 12 days ago when I created a Mind Movie for myself, of everything that I wanted. It was 14 minutes, and hundreds of photos that I scoured and found of things that I wanted, including women, and created a video. Images change every two seconds. Some of the pictures are repeated for maximum effect. No words, no music. I listen to my loops and press play on the film.
About two weeks ago I also took on an executive position in a mid-sized financial firm; they manage over 100 billion in assets. The talks for that position started about a week after I started MLS. The position may have been a mixture of both DMSI and MLS. Hence, I think the two subs are synchronistic in many ways. When 3.2 or DMSI final comes out, I think I'll be able to confirm how accurate my assumptions are.
Last week, one of the two startups that I am a partner in, closed 6 million in Series A financing. While I was on DMSI, we had closed an 800k seed run. This particular startup is a biotech firm, so it'll be a few years, and a lot more funding, before the firm can be considered a success or the product does what we think it will.
That being said, it's been an amazing journey, one that I started not long after I began DMSI and continue with MLS.
The other startup is based on Machine Learning and AI. A trending topic right now, but that firm is primarily focused on technology creation. The goal isn't to make a viable product for consumers, rather to be acquired by a larger tech company and have them integrate the technology.
A longer term goal for me, while on MLS, is to start a Hedge Fund. I've been working with a few friends who are physicists and programmers to build a new trading platform for market analysis. This is a recent occurrence that is still heavily in the planning stages and will depend greatly on how things turn out with a neural network platform that we have been prototyping.
Beyond these things, I have dreams where I am working, planning, and optimizing the key areas I need to focus on. I literally have had work like dreams a few nights a week over the past two weeks. And when it's not related to work, the dreams tend to be highly sexual in nature. Sometimes I get a double whammy of both in a single night.
My confidence is at another level, completely different from what it was while I was on DMSI. Most days I don't feel any kind of emotion at all - I'm just very level set. Other times I will get fits of rage, but most of that is related to personal interactions where people close to me say something absolutely stupid to me. That tends to subside and I go back to this non-emotional state.
I shouldn't say I'm not emotional, that isn't correct. I'm very even keeled. That's more accurate. I'm not apathetic, I am optimized. My energy doesn't like to be used up in situations that require a lot of emotional interaction. That gets draining for me, especially when I know or feel I know, what's going to come next. Talking for the sake of talking isn't really my thing these days.
That's not to say that I wouldn't help someone who is asking for advice. That's different. But there are just people, mostly women I know to be honest, that just want to talk for the sake of talking. They aren't interested in a solution, they just need to get something off their chest. Those interactions get really draining for me.
This might be why I don't deal with many women these days. I'm stretched thin as it is.
I'm also becoming more careful of what I watch on my downtime. Again, MLS absorbs a lot of information. Case in point, I watched Narcos Season 3 - it wasn't as good as the first two seasons - but as I watch it, I find myself monitoring the behavior and ultimate downfall based on the decisions the Cali Cartel leaders made. I then begin to think about how I would do it differently if I ran a criminal enterprise. At some point all this thought was leading me down a slippery slope and I seriously had to take a step back.
This again, is the power of MLS. It will take you wherever you go, so whatever you feel or notice more of yourself, the more amplified those characteristics of yourself become. This is both your positive or negative characteristics.
This is why I have that grand design document. I read that everyday, to keep me focused on my long term goal. The mind movie also keeps me focused. It helps reinforce the things that I want. It keeps my mind on track.
I'm only 46 days into MLS now. Shannon mentioned that to get the full benefit of MLS, you need to be on it for at least a year, and I realize how true his words are. MLS isn't a quick fix. 46 days in, I feel like I just got in the car and buckled up. I haven't even started the engine yet, let alone left the parking lot and got on the track.
It will take time. It requires a focus on your goals. It requires constant feedback on the direction you want to go. More importantly, it requires patience with yourself as you go through the different phases.
Stepping into MLS, I feel like I'm in the pupa stage right now, and will be for many more months to come. The question I battle with myself is, do I give myself 6 months on this before switching to a 3 month run of DMSI, or do I stay the year.
It's a serious question with a serious debate that I don't have an answer for currently.
Thankfully, it's not a question I need to answer today.
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Post Edited to articulate some of my thoughts and correct some of my statements. I usually don't proof before I post, and tend to read after I post to edit - this way I make sure I get my thoughts out. Otherwise, I sometimes will not post what it is that I wanted to say, and that works against me.
09-04-2017, 10:51 AM
The answer I've settled with for "how long" is simply "it depends."
After 3 months I'll take stock, but I'll go for at least 6. At 6 months I'll decide as I'm hoping it hits it's stride by then.
I've realized that if I try and limit or enhance anything before I've had an accurate experience of what it entails I'll be cutting myself short due to lack of information.
I do miss the female attention from DMSI as everything social wise was easier involving ladies. Now they're far from cold, but apparently lust helps a guy out when it's coming from the other direction.
After 3 months I'll take stock, but I'll go for at least 6. At 6 months I'll decide as I'm hoping it hits it's stride by then.
I've realized that if I try and limit or enhance anything before I've had an accurate experience of what it entails I'll be cutting myself short due to lack of information.
I do miss the female attention from DMSI as everything social wise was easier involving ladies. Now they're far from cold, but apparently lust helps a guy out when it's coming from the other direction.
09-04-2017, 11:15 AM
Thank you for the last post and the time you invested in it Duke.
I resonate a lot with what you said and that on several levels. Makes some things clearer that have been running through my mind lately.
I resonate a lot with what you said and that on several levels. Makes some things clearer that have been running through my mind lately.
09-04-2017, 12:25 PM
(09-04-2017, 10:51 AM)Nox Wrote: [ -> ]The answer I've settled with for "how long" is simply "it depends."
After 3 months I'll take stock, but I'll go for at least 6. At 6 months I'll decide as I'm hoping it hits it's stride by then.
I've realized that if I try and limit or enhance anything before I've had an accurate experience of what it entails I'll be cutting myself short due to lack of information.
I do miss the female attention from DMSI as everything social wise was easier involving ladies. Now they're far from cold, but apparently lust helps a guy out when it's coming from the other direction.
I agree with this approach, but I think with MLS, 3 months would be too early to tell. I think it will definitely have to be the 6 month mark before I make a decision one way or another. At that point, there will be several 3.2 journals so I will be able to gauge how 3.2 has worked for others.
09-04-2017, 12:31 PM
(09-04-2017, 11:15 AM)Raz Wrote: [ -> ]Thank you for the last post and the time you invested in it Duke.
I resonate a lot with what you said and that on several levels. Makes some things clearer that have been running through my mind lately.
Thanks for the comment Raz and I'm happy to read that you gained something from my post, especially since I actually use your and Ichigo's journals as a point of calibration for myself. Both of your journals usually capture where I am in my MLS journey.
Which is awesome, because knowing that you aren't facing your demons alone, whatever they may be, makes it a whole hell of a lot easier.
Looking forward to seeing where this journey takes us.
10-02-2017, 05:47 PM
Day 73
Currently listening to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2b_hYV7c6rM
So, this might be the last update I have on my first run of MLS. Might being the operative word. Every time I make claims like this, I always end up with my foot in my mouth, and let me tell you, I feel sorry for every woman that sucked on my toes...
Moving on, I had a couple of realizations from my run with MLS and I will focus on those, and the other half of this post will be some suggestions for DMSI. I realize that the Maestro may or may not read them here, and I should probably post those on his journal. I may at some point in the future, but for today, they're going here, for no other reason than consistency of thought.
MLS is a hard sub to put a finger on, simply because the goal is to enhance your intelligence, which is an incredibly vast goal.
In my 73 days of use, I've come to some realizations about the sub. None of these are new, as Shannon clearly pointed them out when he released the sub. So, perhaps, to be accurate, it wasn't so much of a realization as it was reinforcement of his initial statements.
MLS is interesting because the bulk of its effects won't be felt on the first run. That's not to say it's not effective or it doesn't do what it was advertised to. It absolutely does, in spades. I get glimpses of it at times and it's amazing. But, and there is a but, like many things, it's not a quick solution. It's not a run once and then move on. MLS demands respect at its alter, and that's something that anyone who is considering running this sub should take heed of now.
The first 90 days of this sub is just the primer. The big effects of MLS won't happen until the second or third run of the sub. Again, Shannon already talked about that in his stages for the sub, but, after having run the sub for the past 73 days, with 17 days left before I finish my first 90 days, I can attest to that statement.
If you want the best of MLS, it's a commitment. This one is a long game with your mind.
I would suggest that anyone who is running MLS, and plans to use it for the long term, after finishing the first 90 days, take a 21 to 30 day break. Let the initial programming settle down, execute, enjoy the bloom, and then pick it up for your second run. As many have already seen with DMSI, taking a break and then coming back to a sub does something. Maybe it's the secondary reinforcement, or the fact that the programming had some time to settle in, but the subs execute far faster in the second run with more prominent results.
As far as the benefits I've received from running MLS. I have consistently been working out three times a week for the past 10 weeks or so. My thoughts are much clearer, and when I actually focus in on something, I make things happen. This last statement is vague, but, what I will say is, any goal you focus on, MLS will make sure you achieve it.
Again, I can't stress this enough, MLS is a beast of a sub. I'm starting to understand what Shannon meant when he talked about more power and peoples perceived lack of results. These technologies aren't quick fixes. I'm not referring to DMSI in this case, because that is still an experimental sub, and therefore I can't comment on something that hasn't been finished. But MLS is a production release, for all intents, and it's a beast. It's a sub that you will gain the greatest benefit from, after you've had at least 3 runs from. That means 9 months of usage.
I know a lot of users switch subs before fully finishing a run. I would advise, at least with MLS, that you make the long term commitment to it, or at least finish an initial run before switching over to something else, and then come back to this sub at a later time and do another run of it. I don't believe, and I'm not qualified to make this next statement, so it is only speculation on my part, that you need to do three consecutive runs of MLS. I would keep it as part of the sub arsenal.
That being finished, I'm going to now elaborate on a post that I made on Myth's journal.
I wrote my post on Myth's journal from my phone, and I can't get a damn thought out from my phone. I'm old. I need a keyboard and a large screen.
There's a large debate about how some guys are naturals, others aren't, and how DMSI's success has worked for guys that have a history of bedding women.
I can't remember which post it was that I wrote, but I believe it was in my 3.1 journal that I posted it. When I was in college, I couldn't ask a girl out for coffee, without being an absolute nervous wreck. I was a f*cking mess. On top of that, I was a hopeless romantic and probably a walking example of a white knight. Did I have some experience with women, I did, I won't lie, I did have some. Not a lot though.
I'm now 41 years old, and I've bedded over a hundred women. So what changed in the last 23 years since I was 18 years old...
First, I didn't go all Red Pill and hate women for the way they treated me. And I absolutely got shit on by women several times when I was in my late teens. But, I realized early on that hating someone else expends so much of my own energy, it doesn't get me anywhere. Neither did looking at other guys in envy of the fact that they had something that I felt I never would. And I had plenty of envy.
Instead, I focused on making myself the best version of myself that I could be. I focused entirely on myself and nothing else. I stopped giving a shit how other people looked at me, whether they were friendly with me or not, whether I was alpha or beta or anything else. It stopped being about everyone else and it only became about me. I decided to be solely focused on myself.
This led to one of the most interesting periods in my life. Where I focused on everything I ever wanted to do. I changed hair styles, colored my hair, bought clothes that fit my individual style, read the books that I wanted to read, and marched to my own drum. Now, this might sound vague again for many of you, so to put some more context on this, I grew up in NYC. One of the trendiest cities in the world, where people define the word clique, and if you're not in a group, you're alone. NY is an extremely harsh and lonely place. For those that have never lived here or partied here, you guys can't imagine. For those that are in NY, like Apollo, they can validate these statements. To go against the grain and define yourself in a town where everyone follows the latest trend is the hardest thing to do.
In the process of exploring this part of myself, I started to learn and understand what sexuality meant to me. This led me down another journey, and this one manifested itself in a unique way. I spent about two years in this field of self definition. During the process, there were three books that I read which made a defining mark on my character and personality.
1 - The Story of O by Pauline Reage
2 - The Dark Room by Junnosuke Yoshiyuki
3 - Diary of a Seducer by Kierkegaard.
Within that two year transformative period, I read those three books several times. Also during that period as I ingrained what sexuality and seduction meant to me, I ended up dating some of the most beautiful women in my university. I had intense sexual relationships with those women. I also, as a calling card almost, gave each of these women a copy of the first book, The Story of O.
I also made stronger friendships. My art changed and I had a small exhibition of my work when I was about 21. It was an intensely transformative time in my life, because I focused on my definition of sexuality. I realized that all of my emotions and feelings would be the architecture of my world. And any woman who came into contact with that world, would have to transform themselves to share my space. I no longer cared about bending to what women wanted, or finding a woman that I thought was attractive, or who met some ideal that I had. They had to transform themselves to what I was and how I lived. I honestly gave two shits about what they wanted and felt.
This was great for a while, and it made for some amazing times for me, but, ultimately I hurt so many different women. As the years went by I found some semblance of balance and I became who I was. Then I got on DMSI and I transformed even more.
This is the long way of saying, whatever you want, has to be focused on you. When you become what you want to be, things around you fall into place. When you try to figure out how to make something work, it doesn't pan out. This is probably why I never listened or read pickup material.
I shared this story with RT a while back, and I'll write it out here to further my point. I was at a starbucks a few months back, when I first quit caffeine, and I got a hot chocolate. There was a really attractive Asian woman in the line standing next to me. After I got my drink I sat down at a table and she came over and asked if she could sit down. I agreed, and she asked me about the hot chocolate order. I told her about the quitting caffeine thing and then we struck up a conversation. We talked for an hour. I was getting hungry and wanted a slice and she recommended a place close to where she lived. We went there, both had Pizza, talked some more, and then I walked her home. She asked me if I wanted to come up, I obliged, and we were on each other by the time we walked through her apartment door. I never even got her number, as I got dressed not long after we finished and left her place.
There was nothing more involved prior to us having sex, than just regular conversation, which started with her approaching me. At some point though, I knew I wanted to have sex with her. And I did.
These situations are common for me now, because, I understand what sexuality means for me. I'm comfortable with what I want, and more importantly, I know what I want. I know how far I can go. I embrace those qualities in me.
I can almost say that my sexuality was defined by those three books I mentioned earlier in this post.
If you want to be good with women, you need to first understand what sexuality means to you. Not women, not sex, but sexuality. What is your sexual charisma. How do you view yourself as a sexual being. What do you think you'll like or won't like. That's a mental game. There's not an easy answer for that.
I would almost suggest that people don't read pickup material, but instead focus on books about inner sexuality. Acceptance of that part of yourselves. God knows we live in a world where being a sexual being is not acceptable. You're taught from a young age that sex is bad, you get labeled a pervert, you get sexually emasculated. Find those parts of you.
When you do, embrace that power, channel it, let it ooze from every pore of your body. Everything else will follow.
Which brings me to my only suggestion for DMSI. I understand that Maestro put in Natural Seduction as part of the training wheels program. I think, if people were to start with version A, that some of those training wheels should remain. However, I think with version B, those training wheels need to come off. No more Natural Seduction, no healing, no clearing, no LDS. I think it should just focus on enhancing raw sexual energy of the user. Creating a version of DMSI that only focuses on increasing a users Sexual Power, Sexual Energy, Sexual Charisma and Sexual appetite. Nothing else. That, I believe, is what will make DMSI successful. Not all women will respond to it, and there will be a lot of ghosting for sure. But, once a baseline has been reached, I believe the women that are also sexually charged, will pursue aggressively. Almost like insects and light. They are drawn to it at an instinctual level.
That's basically everything I wanted to say. This became a goddam novel of a post. I'm making up for 30 days of not posting...
Onwards and Upwards My Brothers in Subs...
Currently listening to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2b_hYV7c6rM
So, this might be the last update I have on my first run of MLS. Might being the operative word. Every time I make claims like this, I always end up with my foot in my mouth, and let me tell you, I feel sorry for every woman that sucked on my toes...
Moving on, I had a couple of realizations from my run with MLS and I will focus on those, and the other half of this post will be some suggestions for DMSI. I realize that the Maestro may or may not read them here, and I should probably post those on his journal. I may at some point in the future, but for today, they're going here, for no other reason than consistency of thought.
MLS is a hard sub to put a finger on, simply because the goal is to enhance your intelligence, which is an incredibly vast goal.
In my 73 days of use, I've come to some realizations about the sub. None of these are new, as Shannon clearly pointed them out when he released the sub. So, perhaps, to be accurate, it wasn't so much of a realization as it was reinforcement of his initial statements.
MLS is interesting because the bulk of its effects won't be felt on the first run. That's not to say it's not effective or it doesn't do what it was advertised to. It absolutely does, in spades. I get glimpses of it at times and it's amazing. But, and there is a but, like many things, it's not a quick solution. It's not a run once and then move on. MLS demands respect at its alter, and that's something that anyone who is considering running this sub should take heed of now.
The first 90 days of this sub is just the primer. The big effects of MLS won't happen until the second or third run of the sub. Again, Shannon already talked about that in his stages for the sub, but, after having run the sub for the past 73 days, with 17 days left before I finish my first 90 days, I can attest to that statement.
If you want the best of MLS, it's a commitment. This one is a long game with your mind.
I would suggest that anyone who is running MLS, and plans to use it for the long term, after finishing the first 90 days, take a 21 to 30 day break. Let the initial programming settle down, execute, enjoy the bloom, and then pick it up for your second run. As many have already seen with DMSI, taking a break and then coming back to a sub does something. Maybe it's the secondary reinforcement, or the fact that the programming had some time to settle in, but the subs execute far faster in the second run with more prominent results.
As far as the benefits I've received from running MLS. I have consistently been working out three times a week for the past 10 weeks or so. My thoughts are much clearer, and when I actually focus in on something, I make things happen. This last statement is vague, but, what I will say is, any goal you focus on, MLS will make sure you achieve it.
Again, I can't stress this enough, MLS is a beast of a sub. I'm starting to understand what Shannon meant when he talked about more power and peoples perceived lack of results. These technologies aren't quick fixes. I'm not referring to DMSI in this case, because that is still an experimental sub, and therefore I can't comment on something that hasn't been finished. But MLS is a production release, for all intents, and it's a beast. It's a sub that you will gain the greatest benefit from, after you've had at least 3 runs from. That means 9 months of usage.
I know a lot of users switch subs before fully finishing a run. I would advise, at least with MLS, that you make the long term commitment to it, or at least finish an initial run before switching over to something else, and then come back to this sub at a later time and do another run of it. I don't believe, and I'm not qualified to make this next statement, so it is only speculation on my part, that you need to do three consecutive runs of MLS. I would keep it as part of the sub arsenal.
That being finished, I'm going to now elaborate on a post that I made on Myth's journal.
I wrote my post on Myth's journal from my phone, and I can't get a damn thought out from my phone. I'm old. I need a keyboard and a large screen.
There's a large debate about how some guys are naturals, others aren't, and how DMSI's success has worked for guys that have a history of bedding women.
I can't remember which post it was that I wrote, but I believe it was in my 3.1 journal that I posted it. When I was in college, I couldn't ask a girl out for coffee, without being an absolute nervous wreck. I was a f*cking mess. On top of that, I was a hopeless romantic and probably a walking example of a white knight. Did I have some experience with women, I did, I won't lie, I did have some. Not a lot though.
I'm now 41 years old, and I've bedded over a hundred women. So what changed in the last 23 years since I was 18 years old...
First, I didn't go all Red Pill and hate women for the way they treated me. And I absolutely got shit on by women several times when I was in my late teens. But, I realized early on that hating someone else expends so much of my own energy, it doesn't get me anywhere. Neither did looking at other guys in envy of the fact that they had something that I felt I never would. And I had plenty of envy.
Instead, I focused on making myself the best version of myself that I could be. I focused entirely on myself and nothing else. I stopped giving a shit how other people looked at me, whether they were friendly with me or not, whether I was alpha or beta or anything else. It stopped being about everyone else and it only became about me. I decided to be solely focused on myself.
This led to one of the most interesting periods in my life. Where I focused on everything I ever wanted to do. I changed hair styles, colored my hair, bought clothes that fit my individual style, read the books that I wanted to read, and marched to my own drum. Now, this might sound vague again for many of you, so to put some more context on this, I grew up in NYC. One of the trendiest cities in the world, where people define the word clique, and if you're not in a group, you're alone. NY is an extremely harsh and lonely place. For those that have never lived here or partied here, you guys can't imagine. For those that are in NY, like Apollo, they can validate these statements. To go against the grain and define yourself in a town where everyone follows the latest trend is the hardest thing to do.
In the process of exploring this part of myself, I started to learn and understand what sexuality meant to me. This led me down another journey, and this one manifested itself in a unique way. I spent about two years in this field of self definition. During the process, there were three books that I read which made a defining mark on my character and personality.
1 - The Story of O by Pauline Reage
2 - The Dark Room by Junnosuke Yoshiyuki
3 - Diary of a Seducer by Kierkegaard.
Within that two year transformative period, I read those three books several times. Also during that period as I ingrained what sexuality and seduction meant to me, I ended up dating some of the most beautiful women in my university. I had intense sexual relationships with those women. I also, as a calling card almost, gave each of these women a copy of the first book, The Story of O.
I also made stronger friendships. My art changed and I had a small exhibition of my work when I was about 21. It was an intensely transformative time in my life, because I focused on my definition of sexuality. I realized that all of my emotions and feelings would be the architecture of my world. And any woman who came into contact with that world, would have to transform themselves to share my space. I no longer cared about bending to what women wanted, or finding a woman that I thought was attractive, or who met some ideal that I had. They had to transform themselves to what I was and how I lived. I honestly gave two shits about what they wanted and felt.
This was great for a while, and it made for some amazing times for me, but, ultimately I hurt so many different women. As the years went by I found some semblance of balance and I became who I was. Then I got on DMSI and I transformed even more.
This is the long way of saying, whatever you want, has to be focused on you. When you become what you want to be, things around you fall into place. When you try to figure out how to make something work, it doesn't pan out. This is probably why I never listened or read pickup material.
I shared this story with RT a while back, and I'll write it out here to further my point. I was at a starbucks a few months back, when I first quit caffeine, and I got a hot chocolate. There was a really attractive Asian woman in the line standing next to me. After I got my drink I sat down at a table and she came over and asked if she could sit down. I agreed, and she asked me about the hot chocolate order. I told her about the quitting caffeine thing and then we struck up a conversation. We talked for an hour. I was getting hungry and wanted a slice and she recommended a place close to where she lived. We went there, both had Pizza, talked some more, and then I walked her home. She asked me if I wanted to come up, I obliged, and we were on each other by the time we walked through her apartment door. I never even got her number, as I got dressed not long after we finished and left her place.
There was nothing more involved prior to us having sex, than just regular conversation, which started with her approaching me. At some point though, I knew I wanted to have sex with her. And I did.
These situations are common for me now, because, I understand what sexuality means for me. I'm comfortable with what I want, and more importantly, I know what I want. I know how far I can go. I embrace those qualities in me.
I can almost say that my sexuality was defined by those three books I mentioned earlier in this post.
If you want to be good with women, you need to first understand what sexuality means to you. Not women, not sex, but sexuality. What is your sexual charisma. How do you view yourself as a sexual being. What do you think you'll like or won't like. That's a mental game. There's not an easy answer for that.
I would almost suggest that people don't read pickup material, but instead focus on books about inner sexuality. Acceptance of that part of yourselves. God knows we live in a world where being a sexual being is not acceptable. You're taught from a young age that sex is bad, you get labeled a pervert, you get sexually emasculated. Find those parts of you.
When you do, embrace that power, channel it, let it ooze from every pore of your body. Everything else will follow.
Which brings me to my only suggestion for DMSI. I understand that Maestro put in Natural Seduction as part of the training wheels program. I think, if people were to start with version A, that some of those training wheels should remain. However, I think with version B, those training wheels need to come off. No more Natural Seduction, no healing, no clearing, no LDS. I think it should just focus on enhancing raw sexual energy of the user. Creating a version of DMSI that only focuses on increasing a users Sexual Power, Sexual Energy, Sexual Charisma and Sexual appetite. Nothing else. That, I believe, is what will make DMSI successful. Not all women will respond to it, and there will be a lot of ghosting for sure. But, once a baseline has been reached, I believe the women that are also sexually charged, will pursue aggressively. Almost like insects and light. They are drawn to it at an instinctual level.
That's basically everything I wanted to say. This became a goddam novel of a post. I'm making up for 30 days of not posting...
Onwards and Upwards My Brothers in Subs...
10-03-2017, 05:12 AM
So, you're saying women magickally started to seduce you once you focused on your inner sexuality.
But how does that exactly work ? This is a genuine question as I don't see what you exactly did, or how knowing your own sexuality helped you.
But how does that exactly work ? This is a genuine question as I don't see what you exactly did, or how knowing your own sexuality helped you.
10-03-2017, 07:30 AM
(10-03-2017, 05:12 AM)Plouf Wrote: [ -> ]So, you're saying women magickally started to seduce you once you focused on your inner sexuality.
But how does that exactly work ? This is a genuine question as I don't see what you exactly did, or how knowing your own sexuality helped you.
Alright, since you asked a genuine question, I'll give you a genuine answer.
But, before I give you that answer, let me ask you a few genuine questions. Who is Plouf as a man? What makes you who you are? What kind of sex do you think you'll like? Are you, and ask yourself this honestly, a relationship type of guy or would you prefer to be a free agent when it comes to women? Would you have any problems sleeping around with different women? Would you care that after a while you'll end up hurting someone along the way? Are you the kind of guy who loves the pursuit or do you prefer just the close?
Spend some time and honestly go through that list and measure yourself on that. Would you prefer rough sex, or something more Vanilla, or would you want to go into a dom/sub type of experience?
And, if you're really interested in understanding your sexuality, read those three books. The second book, The Dark Room is one of the darkest, depressing and brutal books on sexuality and society. I'd get 20 pages into the book and want to slit my wrists (figuratively, not literally), because it was so depressing.
Actually, one more book is The Woman of the Dunes by Kobo Abe.
Get through that process first, and then you'll understand how knowing your sexuality magically attracts women.
You can't understand physics if you don't get the fundamentals down. It's the same about sex. Picking up women is just a set of actions. After reading The Game, one thing that became apparent, and this is probably true for most pickup artists and why the success doesn't always translate to their students, is because throughout the process of trying to get a date, these guys figured out who they are and are not as sexual beings. Which is why, they magically started getting laid. A lot.
At the end of the day, I don't think a routine is what will get you laid. What gets you laid is knowing who you are and what you want. Women say that's confidence. I don't think it is though. It's more of a self directive.
Most people, truthfully, don't know what they want. How many times have you stepped to a girl and halfway through lost focus of what you wanted?
Did you want to just approach her, did you want to have a makeout session, number close, or did you just want straight sex?
I've given you enough to start with. You can either follow through on what I have laid out in this post, or you don't.
That's up to you. I won't elaborate any further past this point. The rest of it is just like Jazz. You'll either feel it, or you won't.
10-03-2017, 09:42 AM
Quote:Alright, since you asked a genuine question, I'll give you a genuine answer.Thank you !
Quote:But, before I give you that answer, let me ask you a few genuine questions. Who is Plouf as a man? What makes you who you are?Plouf is a man looking to be the best version of himself so one day he can say to life "Now I'm the one fucking you, bitch"
Quote:What kind of sex do you think you'll like?The kind of sex where I'm comfortable giving and where I know she deserves to get pleasure from me. That's what I feel I'd like.
Quote:Are you, and ask yourself this honestly, a relationship type of guy or would you prefer to be a free agent when it comes to women?I'm not a relationship guy at all. I don't picture myself getting in a committed relationship anytime soon.
I don't want to emotionally depend on someone.
Now, I'm not looking to be a PUA either. I'm simply looking to be a man who is able to get the women he wants.
Quote:Would you have any problems sleeping around with different women?No, as long as they aren't looking for something serious either.
Quote:Would you care that after a while you'll end up hurting someone along the way?Yes, just like I wouldn't want to be hurt too.
Quote:Are you the kind of guy who loves the pursuit or do you prefer just the close?I prefer the close. I hate seduction games and all the PUA shits. This is something that isn't natural to me so that's not my thing.
Quote:Would you prefer rough sex, or something more Vanilla, or would you want to go into a dom/sub type of experience?I want to go through all of them. Thought I don't think my ego would allow me a submissive type of sex. But with someone I trust I think I may enjoy it.
I don't know if I was supposed to answer that here or ponder them later but the answers come easily to me and so I decided to post them anyway. I think I already have an idea of what I want, and what I don't want.
Quote:And, if you're really interested in understanding your sexuality, read those three books. The second book, The Dark Room is one of the darkest, depressing and brutal books on sexuality and society. I'd get 20 pages into the book and want to slit my wrists (figuratively, not literally), because it was so depressing.Yes, I planned to give them a shot.
Quote:Get through that process first, and then you'll understand how knowing your sexuality magically attracts women.I'm very skeptical but I'm open to it so let's see.
Quote:At the end of the day, I don't think a routine is what will get you laid. What gets you laid is knowing who you are and what you want. Women say that's confidence. I don't think it is though. It's more of a self directive.I'm thinking hard about that sentence, looking at it from many different views, even abstract ones. But I can't get to understand nor agree that it is as simple as that. I'm not trying to argue or debate, just saying.
Quote:How many times have you stepped to a girl and halfway through lost focus of what you wanted?To be honest, never. I always knew what I wanted and why, when I got interested in a girl. Now that I think about it, I never pursued a girl by simple whim. Something about them got me hooked.
Quote:I've given you enough to start with. You can either follow through on what I have laid out in this post, or you don't.Figured as much.
That's up to you. I won't elaborate any further past this point. The rest of it is just like Jazz. You'll either feel it, or you won't.
Thanks for answering, I'll read these books and maybe I'll learn something interesting. Thought I'm very skeptical about things being as easy as you describe them.
10-03-2017, 10:24 AM
Plouf, I like your answers.
Give it an honest shot and see where it takes. Having a healthy degree of skepticism is good. And life can sometimes surprise you. It seems like you already know a lot about yourself. The rest of it will figure itself out. That's my opinion.
Keep me updated on your progress.
Give it an honest shot and see where it takes. Having a healthy degree of skepticism is good. And life can sometimes surprise you. It seems like you already know a lot about yourself. The rest of it will figure itself out. That's my opinion.
Keep me updated on your progress.
10-03-2017, 10:36 AM
Alright, I will
10-05-2017, 08:39 AM
Hi Duke, firstly I want to thank you for your latest post. I have indeed been thinking about what kind of woman would suit me and what sexuality means to me, and your post was awesome. I have a question for you. I am almost finished with the story of O. How did reading the story of O, or all those other books, help you realise your sexuality? Did you find yourself desiring that kind of woman like O? Did you see yourself in the characters, maybe sir Stephen? What makes the story of O so special to you?