Subliminal Talk

Maybe you should run 3.1B after 2 weeks on 3.1A when it's released

(02-07-2017, 04:56 PM)eternity Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe you should run 3.1B after 2 weeks on 3.1A when it's released

I'll see. I've totally thought about it. I just don't want to switch to B too soon only to realize I need to run A longer.

When I switch to B, I want the results blatantly in my face and not have to use version A ever again if I don't wanna

I hear you. If it makes any difference, I think there would still be an advantage of running B, even if it means running into a brick wall, making you realize you need to go back to A.

First of all, you'll be very aware that there is a brick wall in your way. And since it is now a direct obstacle for going forward, A will work on clearing the wall from your path.

Respect the B but don't fear the B

It's an interesting dynamic that A and B have with each other. I switched back and forth between them 3 times already xD.

I don't think that using B to "run into a wall" and then switch back to A to break that wall is the best for me. If the wall is there, A should address it without me having to slam or run into it.

So today, I'm back on hybrid. During the 2nd loop, I got a dull yet constant headache right in the middle of my head. I still have it. It's annoying.

Nothing to note today really outside of the headache. I talked with a friend today and he was telling me that girls making eye contact with you is good and means they want to talk to you or they're thinking good things about you. I told him that I disagree and why I do. We have different points of view but we definitely learn from each other.

No phero usage due to my schedule for today. Tomorrow I plan on wearing Wolf. My main reason for wanting to use pheros right now is that I only have until 3.1 is out to use any. Once it's out, that and every future version of DMSI will have phero optimization that will clash. And I plan on being on DMSI for a long long long time (To make permanent sexy life changes). The next sub I run after DMSI will be either Grow Taller or AM7, but that's a long way away.

Thoughts
I'm glad that Shannon is making good progress with DMSI. I'm very glad. I'm also glad that he currently plans on adding physical changes as a goal. That's perfect. Of course, he's hyping the next version but keeping it hush on some secret additions.

I'm mainly excited for physical changes because those are very clear and obvious results. They'd be very exciting! And I'm sure it'd boost confidence!

I also understand now how version A seems to compare to B. Shannon made A to prioritize healing and clearing anything that blocks the user from executing the script. That's priority one. Executing whatever part of the script isn't being blocked (which may or may not be that much of it before being fully healed) is priority 2. And version B's only priority is to execute as much of the script as possible. So it makes sense to stick with A for awhile. And only if you'd like to see how much is cleared, use version B. Whatever it's supposed to do, but not doing, that's what's blocked.

First day of pheromone usage in a long long time. Oddly enough, I saw nothing out of the ordinary at all. That's a bit odd as Wolf is a super consistent mone for me. This leads me to believe that DMSI has changed my body chemistry. Why do I think it had something to with subs? I used Wolf and other mones back in high school, took a break from them for 2 years, and when I went back to use them, the exact same sweet spots for dosage I had back then was the same 2 years later. I used 3 drops as usual (though not in my usual app points), but I saw absolutely nothing different. I may test it once again tomorrow, but in my usual app points to confirm. That or I'll try something else out entirely.

For the sub, I turned the volume down a notch today compared to when I always try it have as loud as I can safely take it. I'm going to stick with this volume for a bit.

Thoughts
So Shannon is officially going dark with the updates. I personally like reading the updates. What if instead of mentioning "oh this module is so good I'd buy the whole program just for it", he just sticks to the technical sounding posts like "added CRZYSEX and BANGEM modules, these should be effective on getting past resistance". Those kinds of posts are not that hypey and but still let forum members know that new stuff is being added and updated for DMSI. But of course, it's ultimately Shannon's call.

I'm glad Shannon is confident in his abilities to get the program working. I'm hoping that 3.1 will show the light at the end of the tunnel. And if he can get the bodyfat energy sourcing in there, that'd be SOOOOO awesome! Especially helpful for those on a cut.

So I used Wolf again today but this time in my usual app points. I think I may have experienced some selfies. But in terms of outer results, they were minimal if actually there at all. There were a few variables today that may have been why I saw what I think were "minimal results" but could have been coincidence. Nothing involving girls though.

I might try out some of my goto combos or another mone but if nothing matches up to how it was before, then my chemistry has changed. I just realized that I'm out of Core and Imprint so I'd have to reorder that to test it. Odds are I'll try out NA or CV3.

I felt a bit frustrated near the end of the day. Partially about girls, partially about not hanging with anyone today. I'm going to be unavailable for the next two weekends due to some bs I have to do for a course so I wanted this weekend to be fun...

I saw a girl sitting in a guy's lap and wondered to myself "How did he do that" and "Why is she doing that". Of course, they're probably bf and gf but I still wondered. It kind of boggles my mind that I'm still working on this area of my life and feel stagnant. I ended up watching some porn because of my sexual frustration.

Thoughts
I've been ready for a life change for a while now.

Well I'm going to drop porn completely. Cory Skyy said that it was bad unless it's something you watch with your girl.

Nothing notable to report today. I will say that I am now starting to use some lighter nootropics. I'm drinking matcha green tea daily for L-Theanine. And I'm drinking coffee on Saturdays before starting my loops. Caffeine has some properties that seem to make learning easier, but your body adapts to it quickly so only once a week on weekends.

I'm probably going to continue my mone usage this week.

Thoughts
I'm surprised by some people talking about how much DMSI has changed things in their lives. So far, it started to have an affect on my porn watching but that seemed to regress quickly when I used masked for a bit. So I should stick with hybrid.

I'm going to look into Cory Skyy's teachings and apply them. Right now, I need to build momentum on getting my subconscious on the right track. It would be nice if the subs came with some kind of exercises to do to get your subconscious mind to cooperate. Cory Skyy should have some teachings for that though.

At the moment, I most of the time just feel "there". I might be bored, feel invisible, sexually frustrated, etc. Every so often I feel alright. Those are the kinds of feelings I had before and very early on when I first learned about social dynamics.

I'm a bit surprised that Shannon is aiming for a release between Feb. 15-Feb. 22. It's coming around quick imo, no one should be complaining about the wait.

I'm also seeing people switch from DMSI to other established subs. I wonder form time to time if it would be better for me to do AM6 then SM/WM. But then I think about how big the gap of power is between those and where DMSI is and all the clearing and I think DMSI would be the best choice.

It's just almost all of my sub usage has been clearing subs. I'm ready for something new to be installed. If my impatience grows, I may switch to B. As I've said before, no matter what after March 6, I'm definitely switching to B.

I relate with the impatient part. Sometimes i tell my self, i did AM6 about 14 hours a day, did DMSI V2.2, V2.3, V2.4 and V3.0.1 and still it seems like im going nowhere. I had much better mood with V2.2 and V2.4 than V3.0.1 that should be much stronger than the others.

Its not something that can be fixed logically, its not like a " thing " if you fiqure out everything clicks.
Its a trick like catching air. Logic is the hand and you cant catch air with hands.

Its something you can only explain once you have obtained it.

(02-13-2017, 04:51 PM)Illumi Wrote: [ -> ]I relate with the impatient part. Sometimes i tell my self, i did AM6 about 14 hours a day, did DMSI V2.2, V2.3, V2.4 and V3.0.1 and still it seems like im going nowhere. I had much better mood with V2.2 and V2.4 than V3.0.1 that should be much stronger than the others.

Its not something that can be fixed logically, its not like a " thing " if you fiqure out everything clicks.
Its a trick like catching air. Logic is the hand and you cant catch air with hands.

Its something you can only explain once you have obtained it.

Well this is why I suggested that something is added that allows the user to see and feel they're progress. At least then the user would know for sure that they are going somewhere.

Even if something like physical changes become a main goal in DMSI, at least then there's some undeniable tangible evidence that the sub is working for you and that you are without a doubt making changes in the right direction.

So I'm trying to learn from Cory Skyy at the moment. I'm not going to use his audio, but everything else that he says to do, I'll do it. As of right now, I'm going to start implementing his teachings as if I was not using a sub.

I'm going to do a thought exercise this week to see what my thoughts are when I'm out and around people so I can be aware of it and change it.

No phero usage today. I thought my schedule was going to be different than what it turned out to be. Tomorrow I'm using CV3. I may or may not be using pheros until next Monday due to it seeming like they're reacting differently and I don't need any mishaps for those days inbetween as they will be tough enough.

I talked with my friend again today about girls. At one point during the convo, I told him that when I meet up with a girl, I'd like to know why she's there. To know what she wants from me. He said that it'd probably be something to ask. I told him that I didn't want to do that because I think it's a clear way of saying "I like you" and I don't want to tell a girl that. Then I'm in a position where she knows I'm attracted to her and has the ball in her court. I don't like that. It should be the other way around. Plus, I told him that from all my experience thus far with girls, I wouldn't count on her giving a true honest answer.

I think that I should maybe start playing a sport or take up a martial art. I have a competitive drive and it's really showing up through my playing Pokemon, but now I'm craving something more.

Thoughts
Well, at this point it's not confirmed if body fat burning or the long range sniper will be in 3.1.

I'm not in a hurry for 3.1. I'm mainly looking forward to it being a noticeable improvement for me over the current version. If DMSI-final really does simply automate the process and turn a noobie into a powerful, sexy motherfucker that is free, expressive, and has all the girls he could ever want begging to be around and fuck him, all from "setting and forgetting" the sub, Shannon will be one rich man.

I wore CV3 today, same app points, same (or at least similar dosage) as last time, sample bottle varies in spray sizes. Minimal responses, if any at all, very minor. I think if I had Core, a lot of my questions regarding my body chem would be answered. It amplifies your natural sig and I know what Core solo was like for me compared to what it was like for plenty of others. If I had some, I would try it and see what happens, but I'm out. If I do wear pheros for the next few days, it'll be Wolf, maybe Wolf + Crush since I still have plenty of Crush and that combo was blatant. If I get different selfies, that'd be interesting.

So I took some time and thought about it. I know that I'm not going to spend the rest of my life having a weekly or bi-weekly headache from running subs. Unless and until that stops, I only intend to run subs until I get past things I didn't know how to on my own. Once I'm past that, stable, secure, and ready, I'm probably going to get off of them. Not to say that I'll stop working on myself, that's far from the case, but I just don't like the mental processing of subs affecting me emotionally (even if minor) for extended periods of time and affecting my thinking speed or creativity.

I also have some backup plans if DMSI doesn't deliver. So either way, I'm ready to go. As I've said before, I certainly would like it to, but just in case, I have my alternatives ready.

And no, nothing noticeable happened today.

Thoughts
I'm sick of the weekly and bi-weekly headaches. Seriously headaches, take a hike. I'm also emotionally duller while on subs (maybe just healing subs?) That gets annoying after a while. And of course, I'm still doing my creative visualizations every day and now also doing some meditation.

I wore 4 drops of Wolf today. Applied at like 10:30am.

Yes, there is something I have to mention that happened today. I didn't notice much from the mones at all all day. If anything, I felt more spaced out today. I ended up having to work on something that I can't get out of. I had to work with some others. I had anxiety leading up to going there to work with others. I'm so use to being outside of a "click" within my own major so I was expecting to just be there alone or try and speak a few lines to whoever happens to be nearby so I don't look like a loner. I get there and just play on my phone for 30 min. until we're told what we have to do.

I met one new girl and we started talking since we had to do the same thing. Later, we all had to watch a presentation and I just naturally followed her in and sat next to her. Only after I sat down did I wonder if she was uncomfortable with me sitting next to her. 3 more girls came in and sat next to us (on my side) and greeted us and were friendly. A minute or so we were all asked to move down instead of sit in the middle, I got up and just assumed we were moving closer to the end and I ended up sitting next to one of the girls that came in. The first girl I was sitting next to just sat at the opposite end. I assumed that she just didn't want to sit next to me in the moment. The girls talked to me for a bit before the presentation started. Then during the break, I went to the bathroom, came back to my seat while most others were still in the lobby and talking to each other. One of the girls comes back and is all like "hey again" and we talk for a bit, then the rest of the girls come and join in. Then the presentation continued.

I was very surprised for the next 2 minutes thinking to myself "What just happened?" I can't recall interacting/meeting new people while feeling the way I felt then and having them respond well. That's what got me. I couldn't explain it. I was so negative internally that just before that girl came during the break I was on my phone looking up if other people experience the same kind of social anxiety I was feeling (which apparently, some have it much worse). Thise was about 9 or 10 hours after my mone app. I'm unsure if mones had a play, if DMSI had done enough healing and I got a lucky role on the die of life in my favor (which doesn't really happen), or what. Internally, I was just shit, but the girls were all friendly and all said they were glad to meet me and we even talked very briefly after the presentation (I had to get going as it was late).

So either "interaction" + "wolf" = today's results or "DMSI's clearing" + "fair dice role of life" = today's results. My previous days on Wolf, I didn't interact with new people for any decent amount of time. Maybe 3 drops of Wolf is still my sweet spot and I need to take action and Wolf overshadows my internal state? Idk, it's just that usually there are clicks and they don't just "break" their clicks or just pick someone to "add" to their click, on top of that my state was off, really off. That is why this is noteworthy to me. Were they "attracted"? Idk and right now idc. You know a girl likes you when she has your dick in her mouth or is riding you.

I just had flashbacks of when I was in middle school and felt similar to the way I do now. Back then, girls were attracted, all of the hottest girls were, but I was too shy to do anything.

Gonna do 3 drops of Wolf tomorrow, no more no less

Thoughts
If anyone has some idea on what went on, I'd be interested in hearing it. So far, I'm just gonna think it's the mones helping but they've never helped me out this much before without a decent amount of action.

This was interesting.

For 3.1, I hope physical changes are added and that all anti-resistance tech is added to it and buffed up. Most of all I'd like 3.1 to be the version that just straight up, no questions asked, works for me.

Hey man, thought I'd chime in. My experience is 2+ years in door-to-door sales, seeing all kinds of people/reactions.

I've tried wolf only a few times in sales and it only ever seemed to hurt my results. Except 1 distinct time where a woman invited me into her house and gave me butt displays.

(02-15-2017, 08:55 PM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]I was very surprised for the next 2 minutes thinking to myself "What just happened?" I can't recall interacting/meeting new people while feeling the way I felt then and having them respond well. That's what got me. I couldn't explain it. I was so negative internally that just before that girl came during the break I was on my phone looking up if other people experience the same kind of social anxiety I was feeling (which apparently, some have it much worse).

This is actually quite common for me. Whenever I'm in the worst states, people REALLY like me. I get sales, and when I'm in REALLY bad/negative/hateful states, women go crazy.

I'm trying to get off the stuff tho cause it's bad for me they say.

If you want to know what I think it is, I'd say it's because you're being genuine.

(02-15-2017, 08:55 PM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]You know a girl likes you when she has your dick in her mouth or is riding you.

Truth.

Thanks for the input Sarge. The thing is, it's not the usual for me. Back when I was learning social dynamics, I very consistently saw how my inner state had affects on how others reacted.

For years I saw that.

So even though it's been that way for you, I can't really chalk it up to being the same experience as what you described.

Still, your input is appreciated.